Continued support for Ukraine is cheaper than letting Putin win.

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1. This is a no brainer, and does not even bring in opinion, it’s just numbers.

2. Support for Ukraine is cost effective.

3. That is ironically what i fear. That the military industrial complex will think: “You know what, NATO countries will buy twice more weapons from us if the aid to Ukraine dwindles and Russia partially gets a victory in Ukraine (ex. 20% of Ukraine annexed). Maybe its in our interest as for-profit weapons manufacturers to lobby for reduced aid to Ukraine”.

4. You’d think a bunch of boomers who grew up being taught to be ready to fight the Soviets they’d be ready to pay whatever to see dead Russians

5. It’s not only cheaper, it keeps the world more safe from Russia attacking other countries and allowing them to get away with everything they are doing. It’s a no brainer.

6. The people who want Ukraine to lose are more about being fascist pieces of shit and wanting people they don’t like to die miserable. Money is an excuse they always use to hurt other people.

   Source: My dad is one of those dickheads.

7. Yep this makes perfect sense and is a no brainer. Make Russia weaker over time by supporting Ukraine which will keep Russia from launching attacks against other countries.

8. The math is very simple. A few billion worth of weapons is FAR cheaper than rebuilding half of Europe. Give Ukraine whatever they need. Enough of this piecemeal bullshit. 10 tanks here, a few missiles there.

   Time to take the gloves off. Sorry Vlad, you can’t have it.

9. We must continue to help Ukraine, Israel, and the Palestinians.

10. It’s a good argument from a calculated stance but I find it disturbing how we’re justifying protecting Ukrainian lives based on how “cost-effective” it is.

11. A good article indeed. It would be insanely short-sighted to allow Putin a victory in Ukraine, even in terms of pure self-interest in the west. Let alone the morality of the matter.

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    “Putin admits Ukraine invasion is an imperial war to “return” Russian land”

    [https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/putin-admits-ukraine-invasion-is-an-imperial-war-to-return-russian-land/](https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/putin-admits-ukraine-invasion-is-an-imperial-war-to-return-russian-land/)

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    By abandoning all pretense and comparing himself to Peter the Great, Putin has now confirmed that he is waging an old-fashioned imperial war of conquest with the goal of annexing Ukrainian territory. Recent statements from Kremlin officials have also made these imperial intentions explicit. During a visit to southern Ukraine’s Russian-occupied Kherson region in early May, Russian Senator Andrei Turchak declared that the current Russian presence in the region would be permanent. “Russia is here forever,” he stated. “There should be no doubt about this. There will be no return to the past.”

    This openly imperialistic agenda represents an unprecedented challenge to international law and poses a grave threat to the entire post-WWII global security system. It also exposes the absurdity of appeals to appease Moscow or accept some kind of negotiated settlement that would avoid “humiliating” Russia. There can be no compromise with the Kremlin as long as Putin continues to deny Ukraine’s right to exist and declares his intention to annex entire regions of the country.

    If Putin is not decisively defeated in Ukraine, he will surely go further in his mission to “return” lost Russian lands. The list of former Russian imperial possessions that could potentially become targets is extensive and includes Finland, the Baltic States, Poland, Belarus, Moldova, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and the nations of Central Asia. Nor can future Russian attacks on the former Warsaw Pact countries of Central Europe be entirely ruled out. If this sounds far-fetched, it is important to remember that almost nobody in Ukraine believed a Russian invasion was even remotely possible until it actually happened.

    Today’s brutal colonial war in Ukraine is a reminder that unlike the other great European empires of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, Russia never underwent a period of de-imperialization. Despite collapsing spectacularly in both 1917 and 1991, Russia’s imperial identity is still very much intact and has become a central pillar of the Putin regime. Until Russia enters the modern era and becomes a post-imperial power, peace in Europe will remain elusive. The best way to speed up this process is to ensure Ukraine wins the war.

12. This is what I keep telling people, but as usual, people can not think more than a day ahead in their lives.

13. Exponentially cheaper

14. While I agree with the general sentiment, this is again a typical example of incompetent journalism. “Can the same be said of Italy and Germany?”

    I don’t know about Italy, but contrary to Britain, France and specifically the USA, Germany has already planned out the budget on military support for Ukraine until 2032. So if there are any wildcards here, it is indeed Britain, France or the USA.