Für die Entfernung von Plakaten israelischer Geiseln in Hampstead werden Geldstrafen in Höhe von 1.000 US-Dollar verhängt | CityNews Montreal

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  1. Good. What kind of despicable person removes posters of kidnapped people..

  2. “100% of the sums collected for this infraction will be donated to Israel”

    Hehe. I love governments trolling evil people

  3. Is there a precedent for charging $1000 fine for removing a poster?
    Has this ever happened before?

  4. Perhaps the better strategy, instead of pulling the posters down, is to ring each poster with the names of innocent civilians that the IDF has killed in it’s monstrous over-reaction. At nearly 10-1 that would be a better display.

    These posters are nothing but a propaganda ploy to drive hate at Hamas, knowing that it will spill over to Palestinians in general and garner support for further IDF brutality.

    What Hamas did was horrible, and it is important to put a human face on the atrocity that they committed. But these posters are in service to an even greater atrocity.

  5. I’m genuinely out of the loop, not even trying to be political, but why are they putting up lost posters in a country different than the one they were taken from? If someone could kindly explain. Thanks. If they were taken in the Middle East, what good is a poster in the West?

  6. The razorblades are more effective, now they still have to be caught in the act

  7. So what makes these posters any different from any other poster that gets torn down by someone else? Why do these warrant a $1000 fine, but others don’t?

  11. They’re not missing child posters though, because that child won’t be found in that town so they’re just posted as pro Israel propaganda.

    Surely a person should be fining removal of ‘missing Palestinian children’ who have never been found since bombing their school / hospital / refugee camp?

  12. Well they certainly aren’t in Hempstead. Have they tried looking under those rubble?

  15. That’s awful people are doing that, I’ve had friends who I’ve known for years unfollow me on Instagram for posting support for Israel. I’ve grown up with and worked with a lot of Jews all my life, that’s why I support them. Those two hostages that were freed are from my neighboring suburb. Most people don’t know anything, they just join the hate train without knowing the context. This conflict is several decades old.. Hamas won’t ever stop, and Israel won’t either. Not this time. Release the hostages and then they’ll start thinking about pausing the war a little.

  16. What will they do if posters of Palestinian children killed by Israel begin appearing?

  17. Propaganda. There are over 8 thousend kilometers between Canada und Israel.

  18. Montreal residents should start posting posters of dead Palestininan children.

  19. I’m baffled by who would be so incensed that they would tear down these posters at this time. Even if you feel there is a lack of innocence or a culpability at government levels, these posters represent suffering of individuals, they seem apolitical to me; and it’s not appropriate to victim blame. Many kidnapped people are children even. The posters seem reasonable and defensible as a statement of grief and to call awareness to the atrocities of Hamas.

    At the same time I am surprised that this is being solved using law in this way and that money is used as the punishment. That seems risky. Will this achieve the desired goal of reducing anti semitism? On the one hand it seems reasonable to set values and make public a position on what is acceptable in society, but on the other hand it feels like racists will distort the intended goals and use that to foster division. It feels like it needs more thought and that this is very rushed.

    What if bad actors put up fake posters of people who were not kidnapped? Is there a way to distinguish a poster put up in good faith as a declaration of support? What are the distinguishing traits that creates this liability?

    What is the generality of this law? How sacred are these posters? Are they totems or sigils that must not be violated once placed? What if somebody puts up one of these posters on a door such that a door cannot be opened? Or on a window or on a car front windshield? Or just anywhere inappropriate like on a garbage can or on other signage? What constitutes socially respectful placement?

    Do other atrocities also get enshrined? If only one does then that becomes a way to split people against each other again. There will be churlish / disingenuous appeals for equal representation by bad actors weaponizing the grief and suffering here ( and who don’t actually care about the suffering but are simply using the issue as a convenient platform to grind their own axe).

    I would look for other social pressures rather than criminal punishment. Such as create sacred billboard spaces for social expression, and have these spaces be enshrined culturally and have caretakers and priests or docents to discuss issues with people struggling over these topics. At burning man there is a temple that enshrines topics like this and it is a sacred and heavy space with deep respect even for differing opinions, because we are all united by grief, mortality and suffering, and we all want to speak for the aggrieved, to have them witnessed.

    Finally much as it is an attempt to redirect energy to have penalties be donated to Israel I’d prefer that there be something more like a drunk driver rehab or something where rehabilitation of bad actors was the focus. Misanthropy seems to be the main risk here. The money is an arbitrary sim intended as a statement. I don’t think that’s healthy. It’s amusing to twist then knife but it’s not a healthy way to heal people… it doesn’t make them better.

  20. I would plaster every square inch of public property I could with those posters if my city did that.

  21. Whats the point of missing posters of people in the Middle East in Canada? Guess we’ll keep a lookout for them in Montreal

  22. Sounds like a free speech violation. Does Canada no have that?

  25. So theyll just do it privately and they wont be publicly identified. This wont solve a thing.

  26. These posters dilute the posters of actual missing people in the local area, making it less likely they’ll now me recognized and found.

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