Of course it’s not Europe’s problem. I doubt the average European really cares about it. But politicians wanted very eagerly to import people that DO care very much about it
I’d say it’s dividing Europe [full stop].
It’s such a divisive and hard problem that it seems finding a fair middle ground is almost impossible for both the parties involved and their supporters.
The left will always keep eating the left. You’re just supposed to conform to the everchanging, evershifting dogma and not think independently at all. In that way, yes, I say it’s a cult.
In this case, the only thing that matters is the oppressor-oppressed status. You’re always supposed to root for the “oppressed” one, no matter how morally corrupt they might be, no matter what are the underlying causes for it, no matter if they are actually a group of good people or not. They will find a way to justify any atrocity, because it’s a tribalistic and very primitive mindset. Black and white thinking, with no room for nuance.
While in France you have soldiers guarding synagogues, in Germany people are running riot, in Poland Muslims and Jews came out to pray together.
This is what happens when countries import people en mass, but do not care about integration.
More like the new voters imported by the Left are finally a group large enough to try and influence things in their own way.
Literally everything divides the left
When you think you can unite people because they are all minorities, but in fact you can’t.
How do we unite Islam and LGBTQ? No, we can’t, because these two are incompatible. You must choose one over the other.
Every motherfucker in the world is projecting their internal politics and ideology on our tragidies. None of you are helping us or actually cares, or knows how this feels like. The only people I can actually talk to are from the mid east or maybe Ukraine.
The left has always had an unholy alliance with right wing nationalists islamists whose views are the same or worse as the right wing nationalists they hate.
Ofc it’s dividing, its a shitty subject. I don’t really want people to die, so i can’t really root for anyone, which puts me in a minority, as people picks sides to hate one another #Tribalism .. I think Israeliens are fucking up by disregarding the borders of their country, and starving another nation, and i think Palestine should have acknowledged Israel, sealed the border in an agreement and gotten rid of Hamas. But Hamas equals Isreals settlements, it could have been prevented, but now both will continue to increase. But in the end both kills, so fuck them, and especially them that makes me seem like i support a killer.
It’s also dividing Europe’s Right.
When you’re on the extreme left, everything seems to be on the right
Europe’s left should be focusing on the wittling away of workers rights in the EU, the stagnation of workers unions, the cost of living crisis and effect it has on poor Europeans.
I for one dont think its our place to get involved in a culturally foreign problem that doesnt adhere to European values.
I mean only one side is doing pogroms to the jews who have nothing to do with it… i think the good side is pretty clear
It’s also showing us which ones are truly anti-western and which ones were foolish enough to think that the anti-western side weren’t like this, and now have to make a decision on how to deal with the first group.
from I have seen, it divides the far-left from the center-left. the far-left has the instinct to protect unconditionally every suppressed group even if that group is a mini-ISIS. it’s okay to criticize Israel for a lot a of things, what is not ok is anti-semitism toward people that don’t even live in Israel or embracing Hamas as some sort of freedom fighters when they instituting a theocratic dictatorship in Gaza.
Left eating the left. Always reminds me of Spanish civil war.
The (far)left does not need the Hamas to be divided… if 3 leftists meet in a pub, at the end of the evening 4 splinter partys are created.
It’s not just Europe. Hamas snuff videos and subsequent rallies in support of Hamas allowed leftists to witness what “Decolonization” really means: brutal destruction of the West. Those with common sense recoil in horror. The others may be beyond saving. It is bad enough that it took such horrid scenes to wake some people up. It is worse that we still have educated so many of our own to hate the West.
I would not be surprised if russia was involved in 7.10. They are trying so hard in france atm
If there wasn’t global calls for violence coming from the pro-Hamas/Palestine side it might be less divisive.
Maybe don’t vote for the guys who are divided on this issue. Probably not productive.
How can it be divisive? One side literally has an explicit charter to murder and exterminate the other side, whereas the other side has been soft for too long if anything AND get murdered and kidnapped for their troubles…
I find it quite exhausting and infuriating that we’re made to feel like we HAVE to have an opinion on these matters. I don’t want to take a stance in every conflict or issue across the world, especially when I do not know enough to have an informed opinion.
What’s happening is probably that the Left is finally realizing that Islam is a right wing ideology and it’s inherently against a lot of things the Left is for such women rights and LGBT rights.
So sooner or later the left will have to make the choice of accepting being called racist/islamophobe if they would rather LGBTQ people not be persecuted just for the act of existing
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Of course it’s not Europe’s problem. I doubt the average European really cares about it. But politicians wanted very eagerly to import people that DO care very much about it
I’d say it’s dividing Europe [full stop].
It’s such a divisive and hard problem that it seems finding a fair middle ground is almost impossible for both the parties involved and their supporters.
The left will always keep eating the left. You’re just supposed to conform to the everchanging, evershifting dogma and not think independently at all. In that way, yes, I say it’s a cult.
In this case, the only thing that matters is the oppressor-oppressed status. You’re always supposed to root for the “oppressed” one, no matter how morally corrupt they might be, no matter what are the underlying causes for it, no matter if they are actually a group of good people or not. They will find a way to justify any atrocity, because it’s a tribalistic and very primitive mindset. Black and white thinking, with no room for nuance.
While in France you have soldiers guarding synagogues, in Germany people are running riot, in Poland Muslims and Jews came out to pray together.
This is what happens when countries import people en mass, but do not care about integration.
More like the new voters imported by the Left are finally a group large enough to try and influence things in their own way.
Literally everything divides the left
When you think you can unite people because they are all minorities, but in fact you can’t.
How do we unite Islam and LGBTQ? No, we can’t, because these two are incompatible. You must choose one over the other.
Every motherfucker in the world is projecting their internal politics and ideology on our tragidies. None of you are helping us or actually cares, or knows how this feels like. The only people I can actually talk to are from the mid east or maybe Ukraine.
The left has always had an unholy alliance with right wing nationalists islamists whose views are the same or worse as the right wing nationalists they hate.
Ofc it’s dividing, its a shitty subject. I don’t really want people to die, so i can’t really root for anyone, which puts me in a minority, as people picks sides to hate one another #Tribalism .. I think Israeliens are fucking up by disregarding the borders of their country, and starving another nation, and i think Palestine should have acknowledged Israel, sealed the border in an agreement and gotten rid of Hamas. But Hamas equals Isreals settlements, it could have been prevented, but now both will continue to increase. But in the end both kills, so fuck them, and especially them that makes me seem like i support a killer.
It’s also dividing Europe’s Right.
When you’re on the extreme left, everything seems to be on the right
Europe’s left should be focusing on the wittling away of workers rights in the EU, the stagnation of workers unions, the cost of living crisis and effect it has on poor Europeans.
I for one dont think its our place to get involved in a culturally foreign problem that doesnt adhere to European values.
I mean only one side is doing pogroms to the jews who have nothing to do with it… i think the good side is pretty clear
It’s also showing us which ones are truly anti-western and which ones were foolish enough to think that the anti-western side weren’t like this, and now have to make a decision on how to deal with the first group.
from I have seen, it divides the far-left from the center-left. the far-left has the instinct to protect unconditionally every suppressed group even if that group is a mini-ISIS. it’s okay to criticize Israel for a lot a of things, what is not ok is anti-semitism toward people that don’t even live in Israel or embracing Hamas as some sort of freedom fighters when they instituting a theocratic dictatorship in Gaza.
Left eating the left. Always reminds me of Spanish civil war.
The (far)left does not need the Hamas to be divided… if 3 leftists meet in a pub, at the end of the evening 4 splinter partys are created.
It’s not just Europe. Hamas snuff videos and subsequent rallies in support of Hamas allowed leftists to witness what “Decolonization” really means: brutal destruction of the West. Those with common sense recoil in horror. The others may be beyond saving. It is bad enough that it took such horrid scenes to wake some people up. It is worse that we still have educated so many of our own to hate the West.
I would not be surprised if russia was involved in 7.10. They are trying so hard in france atm
If there wasn’t global calls for violence coming from the pro-Hamas/Palestine side it might be less divisive.
Maybe don’t vote for the guys who are divided on this issue. Probably not productive.
How can it be divisive? One side literally has an explicit charter to murder and exterminate the other side, whereas the other side has been soft for too long if anything AND get murdered and kidnapped for their troubles…
I find it quite exhausting and infuriating that we’re made to feel like we HAVE to have an opinion on these matters. I don’t want to take a stance in every conflict or issue across the world, especially when I do not know enough to have an informed opinion.
What’s happening is probably that the Left is finally realizing that Islam is a right wing ideology and it’s inherently against a lot of things the Left is for such women rights and LGBT rights.
So sooner or later the left will have to make the choice of accepting being called racist/islamophobe if they would rather LGBTQ people not be persecuted just for the act of existing