Imagine thinking this is a controversial statement in any way.
They weren’t running it before, except as a supply, recruitment, and staging base.
I’m putting 10 bucks on Saudi Arabia taking the lead.
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Regime change….here we go
You think?
They don’t want to
That’s the “easy” part.
The exponentially harder part is answering “to what, and how?”
Translation: our puppet didn’t puppet properly, so now we will help install another puppet to bring peace. All stakeholders are requested to help us install another establishment that does nothing but get rich and create misery for the locals.
UN Peace Keepers will need to be deployed, unless you want a repeat of October 7th.
The US and Isreal will spend 20 years teaching Gaza how to run a democracy, and then the day they leave Hamas will be back and take over. Perfect solution
The PA has said they will not ride in on top of Israeli tanks.
The only way to get the PA onboard is with a two state solution actually on the table. The Israeli government doesn’t want a two state solution though.
The US wanting to install a new government somewhere has always led to stability and prosperity. /s But seriously I don’t see how a stable non-terrorist government can form in Gaza without it being treated more or less like a real country. Something the US and much of the world doesn’t recognize. (Also Israel probably doesn’t want a real government in any of Palestine)
End the occupation, help secure survival needs then talk about electoral will.
The US could not destroy the Taliban after 20 years of occupation. I am wondering what’s Blinken’s smart plan for Hamas.
So just murder everyone then?
What other reasonable options are there?
I’m going to have to rethink my “See Palestine by powered paraglider” business plan.
Their goal isn’t really to “run Gaza” in the sense of a legitimate government whose primary concern is the betterment of the people.
This is the only thing that makes sense. There is nothing to be gained from attacking Israel for the Palestinians. There’s no way for them to win or even to gain concessions. I could not figure out why the attack would have occurred, because it have no upside as far as I could tell.
>Hamas leaders say they waged their Oct. 7 attack on Israel because they believed the Palestinian cause was slipping away, and that only violence could revive it.
It had no upside for any reasonable person, but it makes sense to a monster.
>But in the bloody arithmetic of Hamas’s leaders, the carnage is not the regrettable outcome of a big miscalculation. Quite the opposite, they say: It is the necessary cost of a great accomplishment — the shattering of the status quo and the opening of a new, more volatile chapter in their fight against Israel.
>”It was necessary to “change the entire equation and not just have a clash,” Khalil al-Hayya, a member of Hamas’s top leadership body, told The New York Times in Doha, Qatar. “We succeeded in putting the Palestinian issue back on the table, and now no one in the region is experiencing calm.”
That’s funny, because they were fine with Hamas running the Gaza Strip for nearly 20 years, as long as it helped Israel keep Palestinians divided.
Does no one remember once Hamas was elected they murdered their opposition party (Fatah) in Gaza? A demilitarized democracy needs to be in power. Israel, the U.S., or some other country needs to demilitarize the entire region of Gaza and run a similar operation that happened during the occupation of Germany after WWII. Hopefully, this will be successful and terrorists will be prosecuted, students properly educated, and the local population eventually re-runs things.
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Imagine thinking this is a controversial statement in any way.
They weren’t running it before, except as a supply, recruitment, and staging base.
I’m putting 10 bucks on Saudi Arabia taking the lead.
[removed]
Regime change….here we go
You think?
They don’t want to
That’s the “easy” part.
The exponentially harder part is answering “to what, and how?”
Translation: our puppet didn’t puppet properly, so now we will help install another puppet to bring peace. All stakeholders are requested to help us install another establishment that does nothing but get rich and create misery for the locals.
UN Peace Keepers will need to be deployed, unless you want a repeat of October 7th.
The US and Isreal will spend 20 years teaching Gaza how to run a democracy, and then the day they leave Hamas will be back and take over. Perfect solution
The PA has said they will not ride in on top of Israeli tanks.
The only way to get the PA onboard is with a two state solution actually on the table. The Israeli government doesn’t want a two state solution though.
The US wanting to install a new government somewhere has always led to stability and prosperity. /s But seriously I don’t see how a stable non-terrorist government can form in Gaza without it being treated more or less like a real country. Something the US and much of the world doesn’t recognize. (Also Israel probably doesn’t want a real government in any of Palestine)
End the occupation, help secure survival needs then talk about electoral will.
”Transition” means genocide
Fine, I’ll do it. You could have just asked.
https://youtu.be/0rkNSPR-QLQ?si=OLNzMw5FhZiKEADZ
The US could not destroy the Taliban after 20 years of occupation. I am wondering what’s Blinken’s smart plan for Hamas.
So just murder everyone then?
What other reasonable options are there?
I’m going to have to rethink my “See Palestine by powered paraglider” business plan.
Their goal isn’t really to “run Gaza” in the sense of a legitimate government whose primary concern is the betterment of the people.
This is the only thing that makes sense. There is nothing to be gained from attacking Israel for the Palestinians. There’s no way for them to win or even to gain concessions. I could not figure out why the attack would have occurred, because it have no upside as far as I could tell.
>Hamas leaders say they waged their Oct. 7 attack on Israel because they believed the Palestinian cause was slipping away, and that only violence could revive it.
It had no upside for any reasonable person, but it makes sense to a monster.
>But in the bloody arithmetic of Hamas’s leaders, the carnage is not the regrettable outcome of a big miscalculation. Quite the opposite, they say: It is the necessary cost of a great accomplishment — the shattering of the status quo and the opening of a new, more volatile chapter in their fight against Israel.
>”It was necessary to “change the entire equation and not just have a clash,” Khalil al-Hayya, a member of Hamas’s top leadership body, told The New York Times in Doha, Qatar. “We succeeded in putting the Palestinian issue back on the table, and now no one in the region is experiencing calm.”
Link to gifted article
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/08/world/middleeast/hamas-israel-gaza-war.html?unlocked_article_code=1.80w.SFeC.s3pELbzWZS15
That’s funny, because they were fine with Hamas running the Gaza Strip for nearly 20 years, as long as it helped Israel keep Palestinians divided.
Does no one remember once Hamas was elected they murdered their opposition party (Fatah) in Gaza? A demilitarized democracy needs to be in power. Israel, the U.S., or some other country needs to demilitarize the entire region of Gaza and run a similar operation that happened during the occupation of Germany after WWII. Hopefully, this will be successful and terrorists will be prosecuted, students properly educated, and the local population eventually re-runs things.