The only thing worse than Manchin being in office is Manchin not being in office… Progressives are going to be shocked at how much they miss him.
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I don’t *really* think Manchin running for president will hurt Biden, I’m honestly more sad about the almost inevitable loss of the seat. But he does appear to plan to run.
I know it is fun to sh*t on Manchin.
And yes he did massively hamstring Biden.
But I’d take him over an GOP senator any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
God I hate this guy. And I’m gonna miss him like crazy.
He’s a piece of shit but that slim Democrat majority counted a lot. I am not sure what the key senate races are looking like for 2024. I am trying to be optimistic given the results of the elections this week. It’s hard knowing that my baby girl will be born this year with fewer rights than I was born with.
He probably wasn’t going to win anyway. It was always at least -1 seat next year. Dems need to figure out how to win in redder states again if they ever want to preserve or expand their Senate majority
He wasn’t likely to win re-election anyway.
He must’ve seen his poll numbers and knows he’s cooked anyway
The number of people on the left applauding this just goes to show how many people aren’t the least bit pragmatic.
He won’t get replaced by some progressive Dem. He’ll get replaced by some MAGA loon, who will NEVER support Dem initiatives.
Yes, Manchin sucked for so many reasons, but you’ll be missing him when his replacement gets seated, I guarantee you.
This is bad Manchin sucks but is still far better than a Republican.
He’s an asshole who got his way and held the Democrats at gun point, but, at least he was a constant party vote on getting Judges through.
Well, it looks like West Virginia is going to have another Republican senator.
I lost money on daycare because of this jerk. He makes millions, but I could have saved a few thousand, but nope.
As much as we complain about him, this sub is about to learn the hard way how valuable it was to have a deep red state Democrat like Manchin in the Senate. He really is one of the last of his kind
Many on the Left will cheer for this, but I won’t.
Thanks to Joe Manchin, we have confirmed 153 federal judges during Biden’s tenure. We passed the biggest climate bill ever in the Inflation Reduction Act. We passed the $1.9B American Rescue Plan which provided $1,400 in direct relief to Americans and helped us stay afloat during covid. None of that happens if Mitch McConnell had been Senate Majority leader.
I’m not a Joe Manchin fan, don’t get me wrong. But West Virginia is a +30R state and will now elect a Republican to the Senate. The Senate map in 2024 is absolutely brutal and unless Dems can pull some massive upsets, they are projected to lose the chamber for multiple cycles. Politics isn’t always about electing people you agree with 100%, sometimes it’s about the better of two evils.
All that bitchiness and blocking Biden’s agenda to not even run for re-election.
And he announced he would be “traveling the country and speaking out to see if there is an interest in creating a movement to mobilize the middle”. In other words, he is positioning himself for a Presidential run under the “No Labels” ticket. He’s not going to support Biden, he’s going to run against him.
Well, he had zero chance of winning again. Which fucking sucks, because now we get a MAGA clown instead of somebody that confirms our judges and votes with Democrats most of the time (over 90%).
That’s a Senate seat lost we won’t be getting back anytime soon unless you have some other Democrat Coal Barrons laying around I’m unaware of.
Common counterpoint to his constant obstruction was that he could not fully support all of Biden’s agenda cause he was dem in a deep red state.
He obstructed and still reached the conclusion that his chances to win were so low that there is no point in running.
He could have supported all of Biden’s agenda and still be in this same exact spot.
Ugh I hope he doesn’t run on a stupid ass No Labels ticket.
He needed a massive amount of split ticket voting to win reelection, and it’s not terribly feasible in an age of such negative partisanship.
He was an opportunistic, grifting bastard, and is still infinitely better than his replacement will be.
It was likely he would lose anyway, but this makes the loss of a Senate seat inevitable now. It’s time to put all our stock into Ohio and Montana. Weirdly enough, I have a better feeling about Tester than Brown
I wouldn’t have worried too much if it wasn’t for the fact that the 2024 senate map scares me. Ohio and Montana could very easily flip. And Texas flipping to blue is a HUGE gamble. I really wish Mandela Barnes won in 2022.
Sinema next.
Pundits are saying this signals his intention to run for President. Yet another delusional politician who thinks he has a national following because 51% of his immediate family and staff seem to like him.
>“I will not be running for reelection to the United States Senate but what I will be doing is traveling the country and speaking out to see if there is an interest in creating a movement to mobilize the middle and bring Americans together,”
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Oh go fuck yourself. There is zero chance you will do anything whatsoever to bring benefit to this country.
He’s not running because his internal polling told him he wasn’t going to win. Otherwise he’d do 9 more terms.
Will Dr Oz buy a place in West Virginia to make another celebrity run?
Yay he can read a room finally. Let’s see how Tuesday impact the CR process. 9 days people before another possible shutdown.
Fuck Joe Manchin and his shitty, price gouging family.
It really sucks that the state is going to flip red now, but still, fuck you Joe Manchin.
Cool. Now he can compete in chin contest with Jay Leno
So can anyone tell me what was even the point of his “moderate” voting behavior under the Biden administration? Because before this the rationalization was he’s a democrat senator in deep-red WV, and can’t get fully on board with democrats without committing political suicide. And now he’s just straight up not running after all that.
This was a lost race the moment Jim Justice said he was running. At least Manchin is not going to waste DNC resources on fighting a losing battle.
I see a lot of doom in the thread about Dem senate prospects, but there are two upsets that could happen: Missouri and Florida. Both states may have an abortion protection measure on the ballot in Nov 2024. If that happens, it could well drive enough turnout to oust Scott and Hawley. I’m not putting all my hopes into it, but considering how poorly Republicans are preforming when abortion is on the ballot, there is a real possibility of upsets there should they make it to the ballot.
edit: links to the two measures. Missouri we’ll know in May next year. Not sure about Florida
half the platform got sacrificed to this guy because “he’s the only one that can win that race” and now he quits. what a dick.
Fuck this guy, fucking democrats for years.
He’s a DINO (sorry I know it’s so dumb)
This asshole destroyed the Freedom To Vote Act ostensibly to get re-elected
And then he gifts his office to the nazis. What a piece of shit
With Manchin out it’s even more important we focus our energies in keeping Brown and Tester in the Senate. We have to organize and r/VoteDem.
A lot of people here have wanted this to happen. And maybe they are celebrating that it is finally arriving. But there’s next to no chance that he gets replaced with a Democrat. And the Republican that replaces him will certainly be further to the right than he was.
Feels like people found the idea of a Dem who would not vote with his party half the time to be much more offensive than a Republican who would be guaranteed to vote against the Dem party 100% of the time. I guess they just felt a sense of betrayal because they thought they’d have an easy majority?
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The only thing worse than Manchin being in office is Manchin not being in office… Progressives are going to be shocked at how much they miss him.
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I don’t *really* think Manchin running for president will hurt Biden, I’m honestly more sad about the almost inevitable loss of the seat. But he does appear to plan to run.
I know it is fun to sh*t on Manchin.
And yes he did massively hamstring Biden.
But I’d take him over an GOP senator any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
God I hate this guy. And I’m gonna miss him like crazy.
He’s a piece of shit but that slim Democrat majority counted a lot. I am not sure what the key senate races are looking like for 2024. I am trying to be optimistic given the results of the elections this week. It’s hard knowing that my baby girl will be born this year with fewer rights than I was born with.
He probably wasn’t going to win anyway. It was always at least -1 seat next year. Dems need to figure out how to win in redder states again if they ever want to preserve or expand their Senate majority
He wasn’t likely to win re-election anyway.
He must’ve seen his poll numbers and knows he’s cooked anyway
The number of people on the left applauding this just goes to show how many people aren’t the least bit pragmatic.
He won’t get replaced by some progressive Dem. He’ll get replaced by some MAGA loon, who will NEVER support Dem initiatives.
Yes, Manchin sucked for so many reasons, but you’ll be missing him when his replacement gets seated, I guarantee you.
This is bad Manchin sucks but is still far better than a Republican.
He’s an asshole who got his way and held the Democrats at gun point, but, at least he was a constant party vote on getting Judges through.
Well, it looks like West Virginia is going to have another Republican senator.
I lost money on daycare because of this jerk. He makes millions, but I could have saved a few thousand, but nope.
As much as we complain about him, this sub is about to learn the hard way how valuable it was to have a deep red state Democrat like Manchin in the Senate. He really is one of the last of his kind
Many on the Left will cheer for this, but I won’t.
Thanks to Joe Manchin, we have confirmed 153 federal judges during Biden’s tenure. We passed the biggest climate bill ever in the Inflation Reduction Act. We passed the $1.9B American Rescue Plan which provided $1,400 in direct relief to Americans and helped us stay afloat during covid. None of that happens if Mitch McConnell had been Senate Majority leader.
I’m not a Joe Manchin fan, don’t get me wrong. But West Virginia is a +30R state and will now elect a Republican to the Senate. The Senate map in 2024 is absolutely brutal and unless Dems can pull some massive upsets, they are projected to lose the chamber for multiple cycles. Politics isn’t always about electing people you agree with 100%, sometimes it’s about the better of two evils.
All that bitchiness and blocking Biden’s agenda to not even run for re-election.
And he announced he would be “traveling the country and speaking out to see if there is an interest in creating a movement to mobilize the middle”. In other words, he is positioning himself for a Presidential run under the “No Labels” ticket. He’s not going to support Biden, he’s going to run against him.
Well, he had zero chance of winning again. Which fucking sucks, because now we get a MAGA clown instead of somebody that confirms our judges and votes with Democrats most of the time (over 90%).
That’s a Senate seat lost we won’t be getting back anytime soon unless you have some other Democrat Coal Barrons laying around I’m unaware of.
Common counterpoint to his constant obstruction was that he could not fully support all of Biden’s agenda cause he was dem in a deep red state.
He obstructed and still reached the conclusion that his chances to win were so low that there is no point in running.
He could have supported all of Biden’s agenda and still be in this same exact spot.
Ugh I hope he doesn’t run on a stupid ass No Labels ticket.
He needed a massive amount of split ticket voting to win reelection, and it’s not terribly feasible in an age of such negative partisanship.
He was an opportunistic, grifting bastard, and is still infinitely better than his replacement will be.
It was likely he would lose anyway, but this makes the loss of a Senate seat inevitable now. It’s time to put all our stock into Ohio and Montana. Weirdly enough, I have a better feeling about Tester than Brown
I wouldn’t have worried too much if it wasn’t for the fact that the 2024 senate map scares me. Ohio and Montana could very easily flip. And Texas flipping to blue is a HUGE gamble. I really wish Mandela Barnes won in 2022.
Sinema next.
Pundits are saying this signals his intention to run for President. Yet another delusional politician who thinks he has a national following because 51% of his immediate family and staff seem to like him.
>“I will not be running for reelection to the United States Senate but what I will be doing is traveling the country and speaking out to see if there is an interest in creating a movement to mobilize the middle and bring Americans together,”
​
Oh go fuck yourself. There is zero chance you will do anything whatsoever to bring benefit to this country.
He’s not running because his internal polling told him he wasn’t going to win. Otherwise he’d do 9 more terms.
Will Dr Oz buy a place in West Virginia to make another celebrity run?
Yay he can read a room finally. Let’s see how Tuesday impact the CR process. 9 days people before another possible shutdown.
Fuck Joe Manchin and his shitty, price gouging family.
It really sucks that the state is going to flip red now, but still, fuck you Joe Manchin.
Cool. Now he can compete in chin contest with Jay Leno
So can anyone tell me what was even the point of his “moderate” voting behavior under the Biden administration? Because before this the rationalization was he’s a democrat senator in deep-red WV, and can’t get fully on board with democrats without committing political suicide. And now he’s just straight up not running after all that.
This was a lost race the moment Jim Justice said he was running. At least Manchin is not going to waste DNC resources on fighting a losing battle.
I see a lot of doom in the thread about Dem senate prospects, but there are two upsets that could happen: Missouri and Florida. Both states may have an abortion protection measure on the ballot in Nov 2024. If that happens, it could well drive enough turnout to oust Scott and Hawley. I’m not putting all my hopes into it, but considering how poorly Republicans are preforming when abortion is on the ballot, there is a real possibility of upsets there should they make it to the ballot.
edit: links to the two measures. Missouri we’ll know in May next year. Not sure about Florida
[https://ballotpedia.org/Missouri_Right_to_Reproductive_Freedom_Amendment_(2024)](https://ballotpedia.org/Missouri_Right_to_Reproductive_Freedom_Amendment_(2024))
https://ballotpedia.org/Florida_Prohibit_Laws_Restricting_Abortion_Initiative_(2024)
half the platform got sacrificed to this guy because “he’s the only one that can win that race” and now he quits. what a dick.
Fuck this guy, fucking democrats for years.
He’s a DINO (sorry I know it’s so dumb)
This asshole destroyed the Freedom To Vote Act ostensibly to get re-elected
And then he gifts his office to the nazis. What a piece of shit
With Manchin out it’s even more important we focus our energies in keeping Brown and Tester in the Senate. We have to organize and r/VoteDem.
A lot of people here have wanted this to happen. And maybe they are celebrating that it is finally arriving. But there’s next to no chance that he gets replaced with a Democrat. And the Republican that replaces him will certainly be further to the right than he was.
Feels like people found the idea of a Dem who would not vote with his party half the time to be much more offensive than a Republican who would be guaranteed to vote against the Dem party 100% of the time. I guess they just felt a sense of betrayal because they thought they’d have an easy majority?
Eh. Oh well, we’ll see what happens.