I’m hopeful but think it’s till too early to say. It doesn’t matter if half the people getting it are hospitalized if twice as many people get it.
The government’s “life sciences assessor” eh? I’m sure he can be trusted to ~~repeat whatever bullshit the Tories want us to hear~~ give us unbiased information.
Well that’s why they say this strain is a mutation because it, well, mutated. Unvaccinated people are responsible for said mutations being allowed to continue.
Just recovered from what I believe to be Omicron based off the case numbers (no PCR only positive lateral flows), and it’s no worse than the common cold. Hardly anything worth being concerned about, was ill for barely two days.
I have it.
It’s completely different to what was going around last year. My main symptom is a migraine. Hopefully we’re all building immunity to it.
The worm is finally starting to turn towards a sensible approach to Covid. Now even respectable scientists are talking about the problem being the isolation rules, not Covid itself.
Even if we thought Omicron was as severe as Delta, the case rates required for the worst case SAGE models were just not realistic. And now we know that it isn’t as severe, even in a UK setting.
Some simple maths. The hospitalisations per day in Jan 2021 got up to 4000 at peak; let’s say we want it to be less bad than that so 3k would be a serious problem. They were at around 800 with 40,000 reported positive cases of Delta per day. So if you assume the severity is the same, you’d need about 150,000 reported positive cases per day to have a serious problem. This always looked unlikely, but it was plausible (and we may indeed reach it this week) so it was fair enough to put some restrictions in place if we didn’t believe the severity data from SA.
But now we are being told that (i) around 30% fewer cases result in hospitalisation, and (ii) hospital stays are 40% shorter. That means the same hospital pressure requires around 350,000 reported positives per day. An infection just can’t spread that fast (people’s contact networks aren’t connected enough for it), and if it does it burns through the population so fast it wouldn’t be a problem for more than a day or two anyway.
Well I’ve had a lot of interactions with others during the pandemic, due to work reasons. Sadly I’ve just tested positive with three LFT, I only finished work this morning for my winter break. Damn it.
Majority of family and myself have had/have omicron, some of us have had migraines, some of us have had bad stomachs. All of us have had sniffly nose and a light cough. One of us had a bad fever but also had vaccine when they had covid. All in all every cold I’ve had has been more brutal than this. Its a good time for people to get covid
The UK government had every gullible person thinking it was far worse so as to get the stragglers vaccinated. The South African version of Chris Whitty even said at the start of Omicron in UK that the government was overreacting to it.
I think the thing that most people are overlooking are mutations.
Because this strain had mutated to be less harmful, it doesn’t mean that it can’t mutate again to become more harmful whilst retaining the mutation that keeps it incredibly infectious compared to the previous variants.
A virus’ only goal is to multiply and stay alive. To do that, it mutates to reach a more capable form.
The worrying thing is that with more infections, it has more opportunity to evolve a meaningful mutation which can be resistant to the current vaccines and even more infectious.
All I’m saying is that just because Omicron is less dangerous now, it doesn’t mean that it’s going to remain less dangerous in the future. Especially given that people are fatigued and have stopped caring.
How does everyone here know what specific version of covid they have just from a pcr test? They don’t specify on test results which version it is.
Anyone with half a loaf knows that was true weeks ago.
This one got me and my parents. We just feel very tired right now and have allergy-like symptoms.
I’ve got it. It’s like a common cold on easy mode. Really encouraging and can understand why the death rate is like 50 out of 180k today – nothing to be worried about at all.
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I’m hopeful but think it’s till too early to say. It doesn’t matter if half the people getting it are hospitalized if twice as many people get it.
The government’s “life sciences assessor” eh? I’m sure he can be trusted to ~~repeat whatever bullshit the Tories want us to hear~~ give us unbiased information.
Well that’s why they say this strain is a mutation because it, well, mutated. Unvaccinated people are responsible for said mutations being allowed to continue.
Just recovered from what I believe to be Omicron based off the case numbers (no PCR only positive lateral flows), and it’s no worse than the common cold. Hardly anything worth being concerned about, was ill for barely two days.
I have it.
It’s completely different to what was going around last year. My main symptom is a migraine. Hopefully we’re all building immunity to it.
The worm is finally starting to turn towards a sensible approach to Covid. Now even respectable scientists are talking about the problem being the isolation rules, not Covid itself.
Even if we thought Omicron was as severe as Delta, the case rates required for the worst case SAGE models were just not realistic. And now we know that it isn’t as severe, even in a UK setting.
Some simple maths. The hospitalisations per day in Jan 2021 got up to 4000 at peak; let’s say we want it to be less bad than that so 3k would be a serious problem. They were at around 800 with 40,000 reported positive cases of Delta per day. So if you assume the severity is the same, you’d need about 150,000 reported positive cases per day to have a serious problem. This always looked unlikely, but it was plausible (and we may indeed reach it this week) so it was fair enough to put some restrictions in place if we didn’t believe the severity data from SA.
But now we are being told that (i) around 30% fewer cases result in hospitalisation, and (ii) hospital stays are 40% shorter. That means the same hospital pressure requires around 350,000 reported positives per day. An infection just can’t spread that fast (people’s contact networks aren’t connected enough for it), and if it does it burns through the population so fast it wouldn’t be a problem for more than a day or two anyway.
Well I’ve had a lot of interactions with others during the pandemic, due to work reasons. Sadly I’ve just tested positive with three LFT, I only finished work this morning for my winter break. Damn it.
Majority of family and myself have had/have omicron, some of us have had migraines, some of us have had bad stomachs. All of us have had sniffly nose and a light cough. One of us had a bad fever but also had vaccine when they had covid. All in all every cold I’ve had has been more brutal than this. Its a good time for people to get covid
The UK government had every gullible person thinking it was far worse so as to get the stragglers vaccinated. The South African version of Chris Whitty even said at the start of Omicron in UK that the government was overreacting to it.
I think the thing that most people are overlooking are mutations.
Because this strain had mutated to be less harmful, it doesn’t mean that it can’t mutate again to become more harmful whilst retaining the mutation that keeps it incredibly infectious compared to the previous variants.
A virus’ only goal is to multiply and stay alive. To do that, it mutates to reach a more capable form.
The worrying thing is that with more infections, it has more opportunity to evolve a meaningful mutation which can be resistant to the current vaccines and even more infectious.
All I’m saying is that just because Omicron is less dangerous now, it doesn’t mean that it’s going to remain less dangerous in the future. Especially given that people are fatigued and have stopped caring.
How does everyone here know what specific version of covid they have just from a pcr test? They don’t specify on test results which version it is.
Anyone with half a loaf knows that was true weeks ago.
This one got me and my parents. We just feel very tired right now and have allergy-like symptoms.
I’ve got it. It’s like a common cold on easy mode. Really encouraging and can understand why the death rate is like 50 out of 180k today – nothing to be worried about at all.
I’m not vaccinated btw.