“For one thing, the two countries have not had the warmest relationship over the last two decades. In 2010, it was revealed that agents of Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service, had used counterfeited passports to travel undercover to Dubai, where they assassinated a Hamas leader.
Among their forged travel documents were Irish passports, including some using stolen genuine passport numbers.
The episode put a chill on Irish-Israeli relations, one that marks the relationship to this day. At the time, Irish ministers warned that Mossad’s actions may have put Irish travellers at risk. But six years after the incident, the then-Israeli ambassador to Ireland declined to guarantee that the same thing would not happen again.”
This is just unreal.
Because they love their old allies, those plane hijackers and innocent athlete killers, who trained the IRA how to bomb pubs.
Cause they love terrorism
Not surprising between the terrorist sympathy that runs through their society and the fact they have a statue of a Nazi in their capital.
Because they know, acting tough with Israel is not going to affect them.
Aside from the rest, there’s no political case against it. There’s just a handful of Jews living in the country, so it’s very much an “other” problem, not going to harm you at elections.
The President is on record as voting against (in his politician days) labelling Hamas a terror group, and was willing to stand with them at a rally on stage only they weren’t allowed into the state.
He’s repeatedly talked out against Nato btw. And just last year his wife wrote public letters urging the Ukrainians to exchange land for peace. Great couple. Coupled with the voting patterns of Irish MEPs, you can see how the political climate welcomes pro-Hamas and pro-Russian sentiment.
Because of tonal dissonance? Because lacking education? Frankly, I don’t even care anymore. This has become such a shit show.
Ireland does not have the guilt of the holocaust clouding its judgement. Germany and the quislings in France have very real guilt over their roles in one of the worst crimes against humanity ever. Because of this guilt, they are afraid or unable to criticise Israel’s crimes in Palestine.
>”To announce in advance that you will break international law and to do so on an innocent population, it reduces all the code that was there from Second World War on protection of civilians and it reduces it to tatters,” Higgins said in mid-October as the air campaign in Gaza began to claim increasingly more civilian lives.
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>His remarks were criticised by the Israeli ambassador in Dublin, Dana Erlich, who accused him of being misinformed and suggested that Israel’s overall impression of Ireland was one of unconscious anti-Israeli bias.
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>Another Israeli diplomat in Dublin posted their criticism on X: “Ireland wondering who funded those tunnels of terror? A short investigation direction – 1. Find a mirror 2. Direct it to yourself 3. Voilà.” The post has since been clarified and disowned.
Wow, lots of Israeli shills and bots here eh?
Lol- this thread is WILD! Hamas is not Palestine darlings. Sorry you refuse to understand this, maybe it’s a lack of education.
Apartheid can never be defended.
Sinn Fein is a far-left party so no wonder they like to pump HAMAS’s tires. IRA used to also be tight with PLO back in the 80s.
One could say that suffering greatly under the tragedy of English, Welsch and Scottish colonial rule gave them a conscience(not to say there wasn’t one before) and encourages them to speak out against similar crimes around the world to see that similar suffering is not inflicted on another group of people again. This is what it looks like when a body of people say ‘never again’ and actually mean it.
Because genocide … is bad
Big up to the Irish for standing up to 🇮🇱 oppression 🙏🏽
When Irish people talk about the Israel-Palestine situation, they will spend most of their time talking about Ireland and make very dubious and ignorant parallels. They see Palestine as Ireland and Israel as England, this is why they are so emotional about this and it is impossible to have a constructive debate.
There is nothing more toxic than a nation or a people that base most of their identity on their past oppression. They can’t handle the fact that Jews do the exact opposite. They have been oppressed since the beginning of time and are one of the most successful people on Earth, while Ireland’s success in the last 50 years has been from EU handouts and creating blaring tax loopholes to attract massive American corps.
A reminder that Ireland sent their condolences to the 3rd Reich after Hitler killed himself (because of their so called “neutrality”).
As an Irish citizen I wish that the government would take a more nuanced approach to this conflict and that my president would respect our constitution and stop making political statements. In any conflict it is possible to be both the perpetrator and victim at the same time. This is true of the Middle East and was true of the Northern Ireland conflict. Both the Israelis and Palestinians are victims and perpetrators in this conflict. I really don’t understand how taking sides like the Irish government does serves any useful purpose. It certainly won’t help get Irish citizens out of Gaza.
Well, personal as well as national history leaves deep roots and cultural differences. Germany will be a lot less likely to criticise Israel and Ireland will be much more understanding of terrorists/freedom fighters – one because it commited the heinous crime that is the Shoa and one because it freed itself from colonialist oppressors via methods which can be described as terrorism – or as guerilla warfare.
However Hamas is not a movement trying to free the people of Gaza. Gaza was pretty self governed and Hamas is a bunch of terrorist pigs who slaughter babies and attack peace Festival visitors to please their Iranian and Russian paymasters and their thirst for personal recognition.
Also, Netanjahu is probably a war criminal and Israel is acting like any western nation with a strong military did in the past or would against someone shooting rockets at you: relentlessly and without much consideration for what a military action entails for the civil population.
Because we see the injustice of Palestinians owning 15% of their historical land, while Israel continues to steal more of it as every day passes.
We sympathise with Palestinians because we understand what the impact of colonisation is and we understand how two opposing communities can find some common ground if there is just enough will from both sides.
Imagine during the Good Friday Agreement process, Britain was building illegal settlements in Monaghan and Cavan whilst at the same time pretending to be a good faith operator towards a two-state solution.
At this point, it’s like water off a duck’s back when it comes to Israel criticising us. We’re not going to turn a blind up to their war crimes and illegal annexation of Palestinian land.
They have different opinion. Why is it so hard to accept that other countries go other ways than the herd of sheeps. Exactly this shit has been happening to Poland and Hungary. Leave the Irish alone. They are not anti semitic.
Ireland sent condolences to Germany for Hitler’s death, this goes back a fair way
Didn’t the Irish have two Hobos as UN delegates that supported Russia at the start and blamed everything on NATO or was it the US they blamed it on? Anyway I still haven’t forgiven them for being so deep into Russias pockets.
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“For one thing, the two countries have not had the warmest relationship over the last two decades. In 2010, it was revealed that agents of Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service, had used counterfeited passports to travel undercover to Dubai, where they assassinated a Hamas leader.
Among their forged travel documents were Irish passports, including some using stolen genuine passport numbers.
The episode put a chill on Irish-Israeli relations, one that marks the relationship to this day. At the time, Irish ministers warned that Mossad’s actions may have put Irish travellers at risk. But six years after the incident, the then-Israeli ambassador to Ireland declined to guarantee that the same thing would not happen again.”
This is just unreal.
Because they love their old allies, those plane hijackers and innocent athlete killers, who trained the IRA how to bomb pubs.
Cause they love terrorism
Not surprising between the terrorist sympathy that runs through their society and the fact they have a statue of a Nazi in their capital.
Because they know, acting tough with Israel is not going to affect them.
Aside from the rest, there’s no political case against it. There’s just a handful of Jews living in the country, so it’s very much an “other” problem, not going to harm you at elections.
The President is on record as voting against (in his politician days) labelling Hamas a terror group, and was willing to stand with them at a rally on stage only they weren’t allowed into the state.
He’s repeatedly talked out against Nato btw. And just last year his wife wrote public letters urging the Ukrainians to exchange land for peace. Great couple. Coupled with the voting patterns of Irish MEPs, you can see how the political climate welcomes pro-Hamas and pro-Russian sentiment.
Because of tonal dissonance? Because lacking education? Frankly, I don’t even care anymore. This has become such a shit show.
Ireland does not have the guilt of the holocaust clouding its judgement. Germany and the quislings in France have very real guilt over their roles in one of the worst crimes against humanity ever. Because of this guilt, they are afraid or unable to criticise Israel’s crimes in Palestine.
>”To announce in advance that you will break international law and to do so on an innocent population, it reduces all the code that was there from Second World War on protection of civilians and it reduces it to tatters,” Higgins said in mid-October as the air campaign in Gaza began to claim increasingly more civilian lives.
>
>His remarks were criticised by the Israeli ambassador in Dublin, Dana Erlich, who accused him of being misinformed and suggested that Israel’s overall impression of Ireland was one of unconscious anti-Israeli bias.
>
>Another Israeli diplomat in Dublin posted their criticism on X: “Ireland wondering who funded those tunnels of terror? A short investigation direction – 1. Find a mirror 2. Direct it to yourself 3. Voilà.” The post has since been clarified and disowned.
Wow, lots of Israeli shills and bots here eh?
Lol- this thread is WILD! Hamas is not Palestine darlings. Sorry you refuse to understand this, maybe it’s a lack of education.
Apartheid can never be defended.
Sinn Fein is a far-left party so no wonder they like to pump HAMAS’s tires. IRA used to also be tight with PLO back in the 80s.
One could say that suffering greatly under the tragedy of English, Welsch and Scottish colonial rule gave them a conscience(not to say there wasn’t one before) and encourages them to speak out against similar crimes around the world to see that similar suffering is not inflicted on another group of people again. This is what it looks like when a body of people say ‘never again’ and actually mean it.
Because genocide … is bad
Big up to the Irish for standing up to 🇮🇱 oppression 🙏🏽
When Irish people talk about the Israel-Palestine situation, they will spend most of their time talking about Ireland and make very dubious and ignorant parallels. They see Palestine as Ireland and Israel as England, this is why they are so emotional about this and it is impossible to have a constructive debate.
There is nothing more toxic than a nation or a people that base most of their identity on their past oppression. They can’t handle the fact that Jews do the exact opposite. They have been oppressed since the beginning of time and are one of the most successful people on Earth, while Ireland’s success in the last 50 years has been from EU handouts and creating blaring tax loopholes to attract massive American corps.
A reminder that Ireland sent their condolences to the 3rd Reich after Hitler killed himself (because of their so called “neutrality”).
As an Irish citizen I wish that the government would take a more nuanced approach to this conflict and that my president would respect our constitution and stop making political statements. In any conflict it is possible to be both the perpetrator and victim at the same time. This is true of the Middle East and was true of the Northern Ireland conflict. Both the Israelis and Palestinians are victims and perpetrators in this conflict. I really don’t understand how taking sides like the Irish government does serves any useful purpose. It certainly won’t help get Irish citizens out of Gaza.
Well, personal as well as national history leaves deep roots and cultural differences. Germany will be a lot less likely to criticise Israel and Ireland will be much more understanding of terrorists/freedom fighters – one because it commited the heinous crime that is the Shoa and one because it freed itself from colonialist oppressors via methods which can be described as terrorism – or as guerilla warfare.
However Hamas is not a movement trying to free the people of Gaza. Gaza was pretty self governed and Hamas is a bunch of terrorist pigs who slaughter babies and attack peace Festival visitors to please their Iranian and Russian paymasters and their thirst for personal recognition.
Also, Netanjahu is probably a war criminal and Israel is acting like any western nation with a strong military did in the past or would against someone shooting rockets at you: relentlessly and without much consideration for what a military action entails for the civil population.
Because we see the injustice of Palestinians owning 15% of their historical land, while Israel continues to steal more of it as every day passes.
We sympathise with Palestinians because we understand what the impact of colonisation is and we understand how two opposing communities can find some common ground if there is just enough will from both sides.
Imagine during the Good Friday Agreement process, Britain was building illegal settlements in Monaghan and Cavan whilst at the same time pretending to be a good faith operator towards a two-state solution.
At this point, it’s like water off a duck’s back when it comes to Israel criticising us. We’re not going to turn a blind up to their war crimes and illegal annexation of Palestinian land.
They have different opinion. Why is it so hard to accept that other countries go other ways than the herd of sheeps. Exactly this shit has been happening to Poland and Hungary. Leave the Irish alone. They are not anti semitic.
Ireland sent condolences to Germany for Hitler’s death, this goes back a fair way
Didn’t the Irish have two Hobos as UN delegates that supported Russia at the start and blamed everything on NATO or was it the US they blamed it on? Anyway I still haven’t forgiven them for being so deep into Russias pockets.
[Historical reasons](https://www.jpost.com/opinion/op-ed-contributors/ira-plo-cooperation-a-long-cozy-relationship) mostly, I assume