Isn’t that the justification of at least some of the existing taxes?
Hang on, I thought the minimum pricing unit was supposed to help tackle that. Or so they told us. These fucking clowns have no other ideas other than “anything to be said for a little more tax?”
We already have some of the highest prices of alcohol in europe
Isn’t there already customs, excise, VAT and MUP levy on it? And would a new levy actually be directed at this specific issue? Does the sugar tax go directly to easing the financial burden of obesity?
Horseshit, alcohol should be made cheaper in pubs and bars to encourage social drinking rather than wreckless drinking at home (not saying everybody does but a lot of people do as unregulated measurement and a heavy hand)
Just a cash grab hidden under some shitty excuse, that then would be political suicide to try and repeal.
All it’ll do is put people with alcohol use issues further into poverty. The financial stress will then create more reason to drink, and the cycle goes on.
Any excuse to introduce another regressive tax rather than tax people proportional to what they earn.
Repurpose MUP sales from retailers directly to a new alcohol harm reduction strategy.
Government knows exactly how much alcohol retailers sell re VAT receipts, so the amount is directly tied to how much alcohol is being consumed/sold.
Doesn’t further increase prices either and organisations could apply for funding based on need.
Are they joking? Our alcohol is already over taxed compared to the rest of the EU.
NEW levy? Fucking hell, I basically never even drink and the ones they’ve put in place (MUP in particular) should be criminal in my opinion. They’re already long past taking the piss at this stage but want to put it further.
Again as someone who drinks maybe 3-5 times a year tops, I would happily take part in protests against this.
>Measures set out in the new bill include regulations to change late-night openings for pubs and nightclubs, alongside reforms to alcohol licensing rules.
So at the same time as us finally starting to have a nightlife back we want to undercut them with more expensive drinks? When we already have some of the highest in Europe?
Ah yes because the “minimum pricing” did a a great job at stopping “Alchohol related harms.”
How about a call for go an ask me bollox, enough is already wasted on excise and tax.
The anti alcohol lobby in Ireland needs to fuck off
Time to start homebrewing spirits and beer I guess.
I already make mead and fruit wine… and that’s worryingly simple for how well it works.
This is what the MUP should’ve been instead of just extra profit for supermarkets. The supermarkets will take the piss and pass this new levy on to the consumer. Hate this country
I drive to a supermarket in the north anyway
Great more nanny state
Ffs, every little ounce of enjoyment in this country is being taken from ordinary people.
I think a fraction of what they are already taking in tax should contribute to this. Taxing people who have no alcohol issues is just stupid. Anyone who has had addiction problems have probably contributed 10 times more of their share of tax. They deserve to be given the help they require.
Fuck off. Enough with this nanny state nonsense.
It’s like the temperance or prohibition movement with how hard they go at it
How do we organise a protest lads?
Maybe we need to find new stats to prove that minimum pricing works and then they will back off. But seriously adding a levy and increasing price is a big and blunt instrument. It will do a lot of unintended damage. The prohibition didn’t stop alcohol consumption in the US, minimum pricing hasn’t had the impact they wanted here. Changes to the late licensing laws are welcome though and very slow to be implemented though.
**Tenner for that pint of Dutch Gold there love!!**
If you halved the current taxes on alcohol. People would be healthier – since they can reap the benefits of having a social life. Loneliness kills too.
Halving the alcohol cost would help our tourism too.
Honesty who wants to go out anymore. You have to rely on taxis – 50 quid minimum. We’re talking the bones of over a 100 quid for a night out now minimum. Especially when you’re going to McDicks at 3am.
Tis cheaper to go abroad and binge once or twice a year.
Some bar in Barcelona – quadruple vodka I shit you not – absolut was 6 quid. 3 of those and you’re done for the month ha ha.
It’s healthier to pay for cheap drinks because you can’t drink like that everyday.
I’ll need to get a loan from the local credit union soon if I want to plan a night out in Ireland now soon enough 😅
It’s never about the health benefits anyway. Tis a money making racket. Anyone remember them axing the ten boxes of cigarettes so kids couldn’t afford to pay 3.65 for them. Yeah – those kids aren’t clever enough to ask more people to share a 20 box ofc. I ended up smoking 20 a day as a result of that change back then.
The current gen is goosed. Can’t afford to drink or smoke to cope with being fisted by the housing crisis and extortionate cost of living at the moment. Either live with your mammy or emigrate seems to be the best options at the moment.
It’s an affront on our choice and freedoms. It’s already expensive enough to drink nowadays. I don’t drink much anymore as I’ve young children and need to be alert for them – but it’s too much with all the taxes. The money won’t be ringfenced for health to tackle alcohol abuse. They are also trying to clamp down on gambling too but although I agree with that to an extent they are doing it wrong and going to face serous challenges in relation to that. I’d actually be in favour of raising the legal age for drinking as a way of combating problem drinking rather than a new stealth tax.
Fuck off
What is this supposed to achieve? Are they so out of touch? Why the concerted effort to punish taxpayers? Why continue to drive the price of everything through the roof during a cost of living and housing crisis?
Should people just be automatons that go to work, spend money, increase GDP, and go to bed, repeat? Anything not seen as a net contributor (i.e. fun) is taxed/profited from to either discourage or make “financially viable” for whatever random economic metrics have been decided for the country. It’s a bit soul crushing to be honest.
Fuck it, I’m building a still.
ah piss off
All it does is make the poor poorer. Essentially upping the price on the thing that people love the most. The normal pub is already struggling as are the populus with the cost of living. All this will achieve is closing pubs and increase drinking at home. So incredibly closed minded
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Isn’t that the justification of at least some of the existing taxes?
Hang on, I thought the minimum pricing unit was supposed to help tackle that. Or so they told us. These fucking clowns have no other ideas other than “anything to be said for a little more tax?”
We already have some of the highest prices of alcohol in europe
Isn’t there already customs, excise, VAT and MUP levy on it? And would a new levy actually be directed at this specific issue? Does the sugar tax go directly to easing the financial burden of obesity?
Horseshit, alcohol should be made cheaper in pubs and bars to encourage social drinking rather than wreckless drinking at home (not saying everybody does but a lot of people do as unregulated measurement and a heavy hand)
Just a cash grab hidden under some shitty excuse, that then would be political suicide to try and repeal.
All it’ll do is put people with alcohol use issues further into poverty. The financial stress will then create more reason to drink, and the cycle goes on.
Any excuse to introduce another regressive tax rather than tax people proportional to what they earn.
Repurpose MUP sales from retailers directly to a new alcohol harm reduction strategy.
Government knows exactly how much alcohol retailers sell re VAT receipts, so the amount is directly tied to how much alcohol is being consumed/sold.
Doesn’t further increase prices either and organisations could apply for funding based on need.
Are they joking? Our alcohol is already over taxed compared to the rest of the EU.
NEW levy? Fucking hell, I basically never even drink and the ones they’ve put in place (MUP in particular) should be criminal in my opinion. They’re already long past taking the piss at this stage but want to put it further.
Again as someone who drinks maybe 3-5 times a year tops, I would happily take part in protests against this.
>Measures set out in the new bill include regulations to change late-night openings for pubs and nightclubs, alongside reforms to alcohol licensing rules.
So at the same time as us finally starting to have a nightlife back we want to undercut them with more expensive drinks? When we already have some of the highest in Europe?
Ah yes because the “minimum pricing” did a a great job at stopping “Alchohol related harms.”
How about a call for go an ask me bollox, enough is already wasted on excise and tax.
The anti alcohol lobby in Ireland needs to fuck off
Time to start homebrewing spirits and beer I guess.
I already make mead and fruit wine… and that’s worryingly simple for how well it works.
This is what the MUP should’ve been instead of just extra profit for supermarkets. The supermarkets will take the piss and pass this new levy on to the consumer. Hate this country
I drive to a supermarket in the north anyway
Great more nanny state
Ffs, every little ounce of enjoyment in this country is being taken from ordinary people.
I think a fraction of what they are already taking in tax should contribute to this. Taxing people who have no alcohol issues is just stupid. Anyone who has had addiction problems have probably contributed 10 times more of their share of tax. They deserve to be given the help they require.
Fuck off. Enough with this nanny state nonsense.
It’s like the temperance or prohibition movement with how hard they go at it
How do we organise a protest lads?
Maybe we need to find new stats to prove that minimum pricing works and then they will back off. But seriously adding a levy and increasing price is a big and blunt instrument. It will do a lot of unintended damage. The prohibition didn’t stop alcohol consumption in the US, minimum pricing hasn’t had the impact they wanted here. Changes to the late licensing laws are welcome though and very slow to be implemented though.
**Tenner for that pint of Dutch Gold there love!!**
If you halved the current taxes on alcohol. People would be healthier – since they can reap the benefits of having a social life. Loneliness kills too.
Halving the alcohol cost would help our tourism too.
Honesty who wants to go out anymore. You have to rely on taxis – 50 quid minimum. We’re talking the bones of over a 100 quid for a night out now minimum. Especially when you’re going to McDicks at 3am.
Tis cheaper to go abroad and binge once or twice a year.
Some bar in Barcelona – quadruple vodka I shit you not – absolut was 6 quid. 3 of those and you’re done for the month ha ha.
It’s healthier to pay for cheap drinks because you can’t drink like that everyday.
I’ll need to get a loan from the local credit union soon if I want to plan a night out in Ireland now soon enough 😅
It’s never about the health benefits anyway. Tis a money making racket. Anyone remember them axing the ten boxes of cigarettes so kids couldn’t afford to pay 3.65 for them. Yeah – those kids aren’t clever enough to ask more people to share a 20 box ofc. I ended up smoking 20 a day as a result of that change back then.
The current gen is goosed. Can’t afford to drink or smoke to cope with being fisted by the housing crisis and extortionate cost of living at the moment. Either live with your mammy or emigrate seems to be the best options at the moment.
It’s an affront on our choice and freedoms. It’s already expensive enough to drink nowadays. I don’t drink much anymore as I’ve young children and need to be alert for them – but it’s too much with all the taxes. The money won’t be ringfenced for health to tackle alcohol abuse. They are also trying to clamp down on gambling too but although I agree with that to an extent they are doing it wrong and going to face serous challenges in relation to that. I’d actually be in favour of raising the legal age for drinking as a way of combating problem drinking rather than a new stealth tax.
Fuck off
What is this supposed to achieve? Are they so out of touch? Why the concerted effort to punish taxpayers? Why continue to drive the price of everything through the roof during a cost of living and housing crisis?
Should people just be automatons that go to work, spend money, increase GDP, and go to bed, repeat? Anything not seen as a net contributor (i.e. fun) is taxed/profited from to either discourage or make “financially viable” for whatever random economic metrics have been decided for the country. It’s a bit soul crushing to be honest.
Fuck it, I’m building a still.
ah piss off
All it does is make the poor poorer. Essentially upping the price on the thing that people love the most. The normal pub is already struggling as are the populus with the cost of living. All this will achieve is closing pubs and increase drinking at home. So incredibly closed minded