I would expect to see this at a Students Union, embarrassing to even propose this
>Mr Gannon’s motion also calls for Israel to be referred to the International Criminal Court.
>However, he goes further, in calling on the Government to advocate at an EU level for economic sanctions on Israel, including the suspension of the EU-Israel Association Agreement.
Fair play to the soc dems, this is what should happen. It’ll be interesting to see how the Green party vote on this, I think we can safely assume FF and FG will vote against it.
Would like to see sanctions imposed on Israel first.
Would expelling the Israeli ambassador be wise? Seeing as there are Irish hostages (along with other Irish citizens) in Gaza.
We didn’t expel the Russian ambassador after Ukraine, we shouldn’t expel the Israeli ambassador either, no matter how reprehensible we find them.
As an Israeli living in Dublin, I can tell you that many Israelis would be forced to leave if this actually passes.
Most Israelis here work in the tech industry.
Israelis are generally peaceful, tax paying citizens in this country. We also protested against Natanyahu this year, not all of us support our government.
Maybe you should learn from your own book and don’t practice collective punishment?
Edit: sorry I admit I was wrong. I thought expelling an ambassador is the same as cutting diplomatic ties between countries. I’m not familiar enough with international affairs to know the difference
Fully expected this to be a PBP thing, kinda surprised the SDs are behind it
By all means expel them if they engage in spying or illegality on your territory but expelling diplomats because you disagree with their countries policies or actions is dumb.
If everyone did that, there wouldn’t be that many embassies anywhere
For the sake of Israelis in Ireland and Irish people in Israel, you kinda need diplomatic channels open
Insane populism.
I used to think it wouldn’t do any good, and it probably still wouldn’t, but I’ve come around on it being a good message to send to the rest of Europe that we won’t tolerate this amount of genocidal rhetoric and they shouldn’t either.
Still, there are probably several steps left before expulsion.
Have we ever expelled an ambassador?
We should take her passport. Then she can’t leave.
Queue A Bronx Tale door locking moment.
Severing diplomatic routes of communication would be nothing more than a short sighted idiotic PR stunt
Teenager girl diplomacy in action
the temper tantrum would be really funny. But they probably shouldn’t expel
Sinn Fein’s defense for not voting to sanction Russia in the Dail or the European Parliament was we were a Neutral Country.
We should be highlighting ourselves as an example of how conflict can be resolved. Kick her out and we don’t believe that dialogue works .
Pretty sure Ireland can simply request a new ambassador and Israel has to provide a new one just like what happened with Trump and the British Ambassador to the US. Would send a message that we’re willing to talk but not willing to stand by and do nothing and also shows this lady the door.
Mary Lou says that the Israeli Ambassador’s position in untenable, in relation to the actions of people connected to the Israeli Ambassador.
Maybe the Israeli Ambassador should just be called upon to brazen it out like Mary Lou has done over the years.
Not a fan of Israel but diplomatic ties should always be left open.
Whether or not we expel the ambassador, we should continue to make it clear that we do not condone the actions of the Israeli government in Gaza and that we call for the international community to stand up to defend the lives and safety of innocent people being murdered in their thousands.
I get that people are concerned about blowback for Ireland, but at some point you have to stand up for your principles. I’d vote for her to go. History would vindicate the decision, much like it did the actions of Dunnes stores workers 80’s who started the boycott of apartheid South Africa.
What a truly silly idea.
Terrible idea to expel them
Fair play to the Soc Dems.
Time for politicians to walk the walk.
Edit: although, something tells me that the secret meeting that Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael had with her recently will mean they’ll vote against it and she’ll stay here to spread her propaganda. If they wouldn’t even expel the Russian ambassador, a country that isn’t an outright ally, they definitely won’t expel the Israeli ambassador, which will probably piss off the Americans.
I don’t think this is the best idea.
Hang on, what the fuck is this? We didn’t expel the Russian ambassador (the absolute fucking gobshite that he is), and we certainly shouldn’t expel the Israeli ambassador when there are still Irish citizens being held hostage.
Yeah this isn’t going to happen. Both FF/FG haven’t the balls tbh, they can’t upset the Americans and their multinationals here, sure government are behaving like the apple billions owed to us are hot coals! They’re trying everything to give it back all to bow down to American multinationals.
Israeli are currently committing genocide. Can the same be said about Russia in Ukraine?
We didn’t expel Eduard Hempel during ww2. But then again, no one really knows what was happening with the government, the Brits and the Germans back then. What with all the stuff been burned at the end of the war.
We should not be expelling her. If we were to expel the Israeli ambassador, we’d have to expel the Russian ambassador. China? Sounds OK to me you say, fair enough. How about the US ambassador? Do we turn a blind eye to war crimes and illegal invasions when we are on good terms with the offender?
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We shouldn’t expel her
I would expect to see this at a Students Union, embarrassing to even propose this
>Mr Gannon’s motion also calls for Israel to be referred to the International Criminal Court.
>However, he goes further, in calling on the Government to advocate at an EU level for economic sanctions on Israel, including the suspension of the EU-Israel Association Agreement.
Fair play to the soc dems, this is what should happen. It’ll be interesting to see how the Green party vote on this, I think we can safely assume FF and FG will vote against it.
Would like to see sanctions imposed on Israel first.
Would expelling the Israeli ambassador be wise? Seeing as there are Irish hostages (along with other Irish citizens) in Gaza.
We didn’t expel the Russian ambassador after Ukraine, we shouldn’t expel the Israeli ambassador either, no matter how reprehensible we find them.
As an Israeli living in Dublin, I can tell you that many Israelis would be forced to leave if this actually passes.
Most Israelis here work in the tech industry.
Israelis are generally peaceful, tax paying citizens in this country. We also protested against Natanyahu this year, not all of us support our government.
Maybe you should learn from your own book and don’t practice collective punishment?
Edit: sorry I admit I was wrong. I thought expelling an ambassador is the same as cutting diplomatic ties between countries. I’m not familiar enough with international affairs to know the difference
Fully expected this to be a PBP thing, kinda surprised the SDs are behind it
By all means expel them if they engage in spying or illegality on your territory but expelling diplomats because you disagree with their countries policies or actions is dumb.
If everyone did that, there wouldn’t be that many embassies anywhere
For the sake of Israelis in Ireland and Irish people in Israel, you kinda need diplomatic channels open
Insane populism.
I used to think it wouldn’t do any good, and it probably still wouldn’t, but I’ve come around on it being a good message to send to the rest of Europe that we won’t tolerate this amount of genocidal rhetoric and they shouldn’t either.
Still, there are probably several steps left before expulsion.
Have we ever expelled an ambassador?
We should take her passport. Then she can’t leave.
Queue A Bronx Tale door locking moment.
Severing diplomatic routes of communication would be nothing more than a short sighted idiotic PR stunt
Teenager girl diplomacy in action
the temper tantrum would be really funny. But they probably shouldn’t expel
Sinn Fein’s defense for not voting to sanction Russia in the Dail or the European Parliament was we were a Neutral Country.
We should be highlighting ourselves as an example of how conflict can be resolved. Kick her out and we don’t believe that dialogue works .
Pretty sure Ireland can simply request a new ambassador and Israel has to provide a new one just like what happened with Trump and the British Ambassador to the US. Would send a message that we’re willing to talk but not willing to stand by and do nothing and also shows this lady the door.
Mary Lou says that the Israeli Ambassador’s position in untenable, in relation to the actions of people connected to the Israeli Ambassador.
Maybe the Israeli Ambassador should just be called upon to brazen it out like Mary Lou has done over the years.
Not a fan of Israel but diplomatic ties should always be left open.
Whether or not we expel the ambassador, we should continue to make it clear that we do not condone the actions of the Israeli government in Gaza and that we call for the international community to stand up to defend the lives and safety of innocent people being murdered in their thousands.
I get that people are concerned about blowback for Ireland, but at some point you have to stand up for your principles. I’d vote for her to go. History would vindicate the decision, much like it did the actions of Dunnes stores workers 80’s who started the boycott of apartheid South Africa.
What a truly silly idea.
Terrible idea to expel them
Fair play to the Soc Dems.
Time for politicians to walk the walk.
Edit: although, something tells me that the secret meeting that Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael had with her recently will mean they’ll vote against it and she’ll stay here to spread her propaganda. If they wouldn’t even expel the Russian ambassador, a country that isn’t an outright ally, they definitely won’t expel the Israeli ambassador, which will probably piss off the Americans.
I don’t think this is the best idea.
Hang on, what the fuck is this? We didn’t expel the Russian ambassador (the absolute fucking gobshite that he is), and we certainly shouldn’t expel the Israeli ambassador when there are still Irish citizens being held hostage.
Yeah this isn’t going to happen. Both FF/FG haven’t the balls tbh, they can’t upset the Americans and their multinationals here, sure government are behaving like the apple billions owed to us are hot coals! They’re trying everything to give it back all to bow down to American multinationals.
Israeli are currently committing genocide. Can the same be said about Russia in Ukraine?
We didn’t expel Eduard Hempel during ww2. But then again, no one really knows what was happening with the government, the Brits and the Germans back then. What with all the stuff been burned at the end of the war.
We should not be expelling her. If we were to expel the Israeli ambassador, we’d have to expel the Russian ambassador. China? Sounds OK to me you say, fair enough. How about the US ambassador? Do we turn a blind eye to war crimes and illegal invasions when we are on good terms with the offender?