„Ich denke, ich muss etwas besser informiert sein“: Palästina-Demonstranten sagen, sie „glauben nicht“, dass die Hamas Israel angegriffen hat

by libtin

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  1. Why is there such a propensity for conspiracy theorism amongst Arabs/Palestinians? I don’t mean to generalize but there are literally videos that HAMAS took on their own go pros, and yet every day we see people denying the atrocities

  3. If Hamas laid down their arms tomorrow, there would be peace.

    If Israel laid down their arms tomorrow, the Israelis would all be murdered.

    One side wants peace, & one side wants total Annihilation of the Jews.

    I don’t understand why people are on the Hamas/Palestinian side.

  4. So, they don’t believe Hamas when they admit to attacking Israel.

    But that shouldn’t be surprising. People refuse to accept the truth if it goes against their personal beliefs.

  5. >Two young people interviewed by British pro-Israel group the Campaign Against Antisemitism said they weren’t sure it was “factually correct” that Hamas had attacked Israel.

    >The interviewer asked them: “When Hamas invaded Israel on 7th October, what was your initial reaction to that?”

    >One replied: “I don’t believe they did, did they? Hamas?”

    >The other said: “I think so… honestly I think I need to be a bit more clued up on everything that’s going on, so I feel like I’m not really qualified to answer that too well.”

    >The first activist added: “I mean, I’m not sure if I’ve seen anything that shows that that’s actually happened or factually correct.”

  6. i saw this clip – i thought it was satire at first!

  7. God people are depressingly dumb in thinking they are being clever sometimes.

  8. The world is full of idiots, unfortunately they vote so need appeasement.

  9. That’s the thing isn’t it? Useful fucking idiots.

    Tbh, I don’t believe that all these guys are anti-Semitic, or that they support Hamas, most are just so fucking deep in their stupid far left ideology. They have no fucking idea what has happened, all they know is that “Israel has the power” and therefore it’s Israel’s fault. Armed with this incredibly limited “knowledge”, they are on our streets spitting hate and vitriol and calling more informed people “genocide supporters”. Anyone with half a brain knows that Hamas has to go, the pro-Palestinian position is the same one as the pro-Israel position.

  10. It doesn’t really surprise me at all that we see these protesters either have never heard of Hamas’ attacks on Oct 7th or fully support them.

  12. People are incredibly stupid and I’m getting very sick of it.

    At least have the fucking decency to research before you protest, fucking morons.

    There are literally dozens (of not more ) of videos showing what hamas did in Israel 7-10.

    Fucks sake.

  13. I suspect that many people don’t really understand what happened that caused the ceasefire that was in effect until October 6th to end. The kindest read I have of these people is that they are so misguided into viewing everything through the ultra-narrow and often inadequate lens of oppressor/oppressed, where weakness is a virtue and strength is a sin, that they don’t think they have the need to delve even a little bit into matters they voice such strong and meaningful opinions about. It really is a special sort of depressing and troubling arrogance.

  14. Do they want to see the videos I saw!? Because they were disgusting. Hamas must be proud of them as the published them. Executions of children and grandparents hiding in bunkers, young women murdered and their corpses being spit on. How about the one girl being paraded around with all the blood between her legs? Fuck I’m so angry with the supporters and their ignorance. I don’t even support Israel, I hate Benjamin Netanyahu. But I hate the pure evil of Hamas terrorists more.

  15. You think American conspiracy people are crazy? They don’t have shit on the Islamic Conspiracy theorists. Jeans turn you gay and pigeons are spies for Israel are two mainstream ideas that I have heard

  16. Oh wow, talk about ignorant. Even Hamas admitted to attacking on October 7th.

  17. As a left-wing Jew, I have been experiencing a “the call is coming from *inside the house*” sensation from some of these protests. I have had to distance myself from a lot of friends.

  18. This is why I roll my eyes at Pro Palestine people.

    They think everything they did or didn’t do is justified.

    It’s okay to want freedom. It’s not okay to butcher people for it. And it’s not okay to ignore ones own sins and focus on the sins of others.

    Unless you’re John Brown apparently.

  19. I got to say it’s pretty funny hearing a British accent say, straight faced, that America is the terrorist when discussing what essentially is a war over geography in the Middle East lol.

  20. Yep …. this is like a good half or more of the pro-Palestine protesters who think this way. Truthfully, it is camouflaged antisemitism. I’m not talking about being critical of Israel, which is anti-Ziomism. If you’re literally denying the clear, concise and abundantly available evidence of this unbelievably horrific and vile terrorist attack by Hamas …. you really need to reevaluate your life.

    You can critisize Israel’s response and think they’ve gone too far, sure. I don’t agree with that, but you’re allowed your opinion. Where it crosses the line of being a legitimate opinion to becoming antisemitic conspiracy theories is when you deny what is so obviously true. You cannot deny what Hamas did, nor can you deny what Hamas is. The video and picture evidence is so abundant and is so unbelievably horrific …. it simply cannot be denied.

    The truth is, a lot of pro-Palestinian protesters are like these people. Utterly clueless to the real facts and history of this long conflict. So, when it comes to this disgusting way of thinking, it’s either antisemitism, USA/West bad or maybe they are just really stupid and lack any common sense. Again, you can be critical of Israel and not be antisemitic, but this is definitely not that.

  21. “I’m dunno what’s happening but I’m protesting because I heard someone say something, I’m not sure”. I think that sums up how a lot of people act these days.

    Act now, think never because the media will have something new for you to act on soon after.

  22. its quit shocking to behonnest, having ppl support islamic fundamentalists truly believing that that will make the world a better place

  23. Those people would be protesting Israel for putting Eichmann of trial too, and with the same reason.

  24. The more educated on the topic people get. The more they see both sides doing bad things, but one side being far more inhumane. And the most inhumane things are central to their intentions.

    Its really not hard to figure out.

  25. These morons should not complain when they are unemployed for the rest of their lives

  28. “I need to be a bit more clued up on everything that’s going on”, well, at least they are honest

  29. I can tolerate stupidity but not willful ignorance.

    Fools like these don’t even genuinely care about palestine or its people. They just do this do boost their ego and delusions of self righteousness.

    It’s all a gimmick to them and they just refuse to believe that they may be wrong to support a terror group.

    For them, its a simple us vs them mentality and all we do is right and our enemy is wrong.

    I bet after the protests, they’ll likely go back to their usual day not caring about anything other than themselves until another event takes their attention and feeds their need to be important.

  30. They “don’t believe” concentration camps actually existed. Yeah, we know this rhetoric.

  31. Shocking and dangerous ignorance is way too prevalent among the generation being raised on tiktok sound bites.

    Most of them couldn’t even point to Jordan,Syria and Iran on a map.

    What seems prevalent these days is that people are satisfied with the notion of Oppressor/Oppressed, because its easy to understand without having to ask too many questions. The Hive Mind convinces them its so, and that’s all they need.

  34. This is such a perfect encapsulation of politics and activism these days, it’s really depressing…

  35. Holy shit. I never cease to be amazed at how incredibly ignorant people can be.

  36. They should be forced to watch the footage of the attacks that was released.

  37. I’ve had to separate myself from some subs I participated in over the years because many pro-Palestinians have taken to supporting blatant conspiracy theories and spreading debunked misinformation in order to make it seem like Hamas did nothing, or if they did it “wasn’t as bad as people think”. Like you can support the people of Palestine without giving cover to jihadist terrorists who freely admitted they attacked Israel. The minute I see that shit I am out.

  38. oh boy do i have some videos to show you..

    they might have long term mental effects on you, but they would definitely make you believe it happened

  39. Thus – the great disconnect of the modern day versus where we were 30 years ago. People feel entirely qualified to scream their opinion on things with an utter lack of humility to consider that they have no clue what the fuck they’re talking about.

    30 years ago – and let’s just put a name on it and say “pre internet” – there was such a thing as an expert and there was such a thing as the news. If you weren’t an expert, you didn’t speak up on a matter you didn’t know anything about, for fear of looking foolish in case there was someone who actually knew more than you. Saying “I don’t know” wasn’t a character flaw.

    Today, the only criteria for insisting that your totally uninformed opinion is objective truth is if you can find another person online who is equally as stupid as you are, but the two of you converge on a incorrect idea with undeserved confidence. Together – two stupids validate each other, and there is no fear of looking stupid in the face of an actual expert.

    It’s The Age of Feels. And the consequences for being stupid are not a sufficient deterrent. Once someone disagrees with your stupid opinion, then you simply brand them as evil and therefore whatever knowledge they have is rejected. You’re not wrong if the other side is evil.

    Where does all this go? We live in digital tribes with hardened opinions in search of boogeymen to blame for our failures and simple shortcuts as substitute for actual knowledge.

    In the long run, people who can’t consider being wrong and take strong opinions on things they know nothing about tend to have a hard time in life – because of their poor decision making skills. But – they never understand the relationship between their shitty decisions and their shitty lives. So – where do we go?

    We’re full on Idiocracy. Ahead of schedule. Idiots fall for populist con men and hucksters who promise everything, deliver nothing and blame others when their bullshit catches up to them.

    We are so fucked.

  40. Oh Jesus Fried Christ. 🤦‍♂️

    This isn’t even just run of the mill stupid, though.

    People are going to be whipped up into committing a fucking pogrom, by literal genocidal antisemites (at least one pro-Palestine protest organizer had actual ties to Hamas) and won’t even know why they’re doing it except for the memes.

    As Voltaire said, “Certainly anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit atrocities.”

  41. Don’t confuse me with Facts! *I’ve made up my mind!*

  42. Morons like this, protesting for something they know nothing about, in a protest that was deliberately and provocatively timed to take place on Armistice Day.

    The whole thing is a farce.

  43. I know quite a few people who have advanced degrees but are complete fucking morons when it comes to logic and common sense. These idiots in this article would put them in that same boat.

  44. College should be teaching people how to think, not how to be indoctrinated.

  45. What‘s wild to me is that these people are protesting on the street, for a war that they don’t even understand how it started.

    The person asked them how they felt about the October 7th attacks, only to accidentally discover that **they didn’t even know about it**.

    This would be like going on the streets to protest the war in Afghanistan, in 2002, and you’re asked about 9/11 and you go “ I don’t know? I think I need to be a bit more clued up.”

    So now, anyone who talks a bunch of dumb shit about the war, I’m going to ask a very simple, unbiased question: *how did this war start?*. how that person responds will determine whether that person is even fit to be having a conversation about the war at all.

  46. It’s not surprising to hear this. A ton of people I’ve seen on Twitter say “Oh Hamas barely killed anyone, everything else was Israel over-responding and killing their own people.” Even though Israel is doing a whole bunch of awful shit, don’t forget this is in retaliation to Hamas infiltrating them and killing FOURTEEN HUNDRED PEOPLE, kidnapping HUNDREDS of others, and more.

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