Nice comparison.
I don’t want to be a party pooper, but some of these numbers seem to be quite inconsistent with the information that is publicly available.
What are your sources?
I think they said recently something like 30 caesars was received.
This is not looking good…
Suddenly the phrase “support Ukraine as long as it takes” has a different meaning…
Ukraine: 28/month Russia 100/month => ratio 100 / 28 = 3,57
stalemate.
Germany is still sitting on supposed 200 Leopard 2A4 in deep storage …
I just got done writing to both of my U.S. Senators and my U.S. House Rep about supplying Ukraine with the aid that it needs to end the war NOW and get the aid package done. I’d advise anyone in the U.S. who supports Urkaine to do the same thing. Load up a bunch of ships and send all of the M1A1s and F16s that work to Urkaine. They will end up scrap metal in a few years anyways. Let Ukraine have them in the name of freedom!
Ukraine loses less equipment and Western equipment is more efficient. In general, the loss ratio is about 1/3. Therefore, it is not necessary to estimate the numbers in a straight line.
Quality > quantity to an extent, but hard to break that meat and metal shield that ruzzia has
Production and getting some barely working piece of shit out of long term storage is not a fair comparison.
You forgot about the other equipment Poland provided. For example Krabs
Production and getting some barely working piece of shit out of long term storage is not a fair comparison.
The chart isn’t as gloom and doom as it may seem. Keep in mind, as per the chart, these are monthly deliveries. Not their current stock. russia doesn’t protect their equipment as well as Ukraine does, so the rate that they expend these supplies is relative.
Isn’t Ukraine also producing weapons and shells?
Its kinda funny to not include that.
It still does help illustrate why Ukraine is more defensive.
Typical post from russian bots. They want to discourage everyone with “neutral information”. What this infographic does not tell you is the number of destroyed russian vehicles. that would be MUCH FUN TO SEE.
russia has more but much worse
How about the tanks and so from Russia that fell into the hands of of Ukraine ?🇺🇦
IMHO a dozen more HIMARS along with a few thousand GLSDBs would really help Ukraine.
Those are grim numbers.
Especially for the Russians, they’ve been throwing all that materiel into the grinder with very little to show for it.
Well, if Westerners don’t want to help stop Putin’s tanks in Ukraine, then they can always try to stop them in Belin or Rome. Or join the Russian world.
This is really old news. The outcome of the war has always come down to the political will of the West. If it’s there, Ukrainian wins the numbers contest; if it’s not, Ukraine loses. (This limited and biased “info” seems to be part of the Russian spin effort.)
Many possible comments…. of which this is one:
Russian numbers include items from storage which cannot be replicated… when they are done, they are done. Russian manufacturing capacity is small percentage of what is represented as capacity.
Ukrainian numbers include items which were gifted as well as manufactured. The gifted numbers can be greatly increased if there is political will… for example US tanks in storage are literally in the thousands, in Europe, and the US manufacturing capacity is in the 100’s/month and can easily be increased… if the political will is there.
Leopard 1s are not really mbts by modern standards since they have no armor
We have the republicans, funded by Putin, to thank for this.
Quality over quantity
Sadly it looks like Russia are way upper hand on this. What makes Ukraine win this war?
Why do some people say leopard 2a, 1a, challenger, etc… you have a name, right? Sure atleast 2 people on earth have the same name as you, I WILL FUCKING CALL YOU BY A NUMBER NOW MAGGOT N²⁶⁵⁹⁰⁵⁸
so a shithole country like russia can refurbish all those vehicles and equipment in one month,i call BS.
I doubt these are accurate
Artillery is like 600 a month.
To me that says Russia wins the war of attrition
Europe dont have much to send anymore, especially shells are almost all out. Russia probably produces more in a month than we do in a year…they shoot more in a day than we can produce in 1 month, that math wont hold for much longer! We need to buff up productions ASAP! or were totally fugged
if we gave ukraine several hundred abrams and bradleys, and more of a stock of these ATACM clusters. we’d see some gains. The best part of that statement is that it isn’t even expensive to provide what they really really need. I figure its around 10 Billion in direct financing of the exact weapons needed that would end this war but no……. we watch our politicians circle jerk themselves.
If they aint all getting caught up in some investigations or monitoring their kids porn habbits (new speaker) its all about whos pockets get filled for their votes.
US is the leader of corruption. we just make laws to hide it.
Those Ukrainians military equipment on the pictures doesn’t come close to $75 billion in value, where’s the rest?
All you scouts out there who kept telling me their Bradley was indeed a tank. HA!
Where the fuck are all the GLSDB bombs we promised Ukraine? Weren’t they suppose to arrive in june/July?
Numbers seem a bit off in places, the Ukrainians have fired at least 100 storm shadows at this point and they still have more so several dozen just doesn’t seem right.
Also misses all the Russian contributions to Ukrainian war fund when they run away and leave their tanks and armoured vehicles for the Ukrainians.
Really, the whole west cannot supply more weapons than russia? Shows how much we need our plasma tvs 🙁
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Nice comparison.
I don’t want to be a party pooper, but some of these numbers seem to be quite inconsistent with the information that is publicly available.
What are your sources?
I think they said recently something like 30 caesars was received.
This is not looking good…
Suddenly the phrase “support Ukraine as long as it takes” has a different meaning…
losses tanks (Oryx):
Ukraine: 685, Russia: 2463 => ratio = 2643 / 685 = 3,59
deliveries tanks (dacenko)
Ukraine: 28/month Russia 100/month => ratio 100 / 28 = 3,57
stalemate.
Germany is still sitting on supposed 200 Leopard 2A4 in deep storage …
I just got done writing to both of my U.S. Senators and my U.S. House Rep about supplying Ukraine with the aid that it needs to end the war NOW and get the aid package done. I’d advise anyone in the U.S. who supports Urkaine to do the same thing. Load up a bunch of ships and send all of the M1A1s and F16s that work to Urkaine. They will end up scrap metal in a few years anyways. Let Ukraine have them in the name of freedom!
Ukraine loses less equipment and Western equipment is more efficient. In general, the loss ratio is about 1/3. Therefore, it is not necessary to estimate the numbers in a straight line.
Quality > quantity to an extent, but hard to break that meat and metal shield that ruzzia has
Then you read this:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/11/13/when-a-russian-regiment-ran-out-of-old-t-72ba-tanks-it-reequipped-with-even-older-t-72bs/
Production and getting some barely working piece of shit out of long term storage is not a fair comparison.
You forgot about the other equipment Poland provided. For example Krabs
Production and getting some barely working piece of shit out of long term storage is not a fair comparison.
The chart isn’t as gloom and doom as it may seem. Keep in mind, as per the chart, these are monthly deliveries. Not their current stock. russia doesn’t protect their equipment as well as Ukraine does, so the rate that they expend these supplies is relative.
Isn’t Ukraine also producing weapons and shells?
Its kinda funny to not include that.
It still does help illustrate why Ukraine is more defensive.
Typical post from russian bots. They want to discourage everyone with “neutral information”. What this infographic does not tell you is the number of destroyed russian vehicles. that would be MUCH FUN TO SEE.
russia has more but much worse
How about the tanks and so from Russia that fell into the hands of of Ukraine ?🇺🇦
IMHO a dozen more HIMARS along with a few thousand GLSDBs would really help Ukraine.
Those are grim numbers.
Especially for the Russians, they’ve been throwing all that materiel into the grinder with very little to show for it.
Well, if Westerners don’t want to help stop Putin’s tanks in Ukraine, then they can always try to stop them in Belin or Rome. Or join the Russian world.
This is really old news. The outcome of the war has always come down to the political will of the West. If it’s there, Ukrainian wins the numbers contest; if it’s not, Ukraine loses. (This limited and biased “info” seems to be part of the Russian spin effort.)
Many possible comments…. of which this is one:
Russian numbers include items from storage which cannot be replicated… when they are done, they are done. Russian manufacturing capacity is small percentage of what is represented as capacity.
Ukrainian numbers include items which were gifted as well as manufactured. The gifted numbers can be greatly increased if there is political will… for example US tanks in storage are literally in the thousands, in Europe, and the US manufacturing capacity is in the 100’s/month and can easily be increased… if the political will is there.
Leopard 1s are not really mbts by modern standards since they have no armor
We have the republicans, funded by Putin, to thank for this.
Quality over quantity
Sadly it looks like Russia are way upper hand on this. What makes Ukraine win this war?
Why do some people say leopard 2a, 1a, challenger, etc… you have a name, right? Sure atleast 2 people on earth have the same name as you, I WILL FUCKING CALL YOU BY A NUMBER NOW MAGGOT N²⁶⁵⁹⁰⁵⁸
so a shithole country like russia can refurbish all those vehicles and equipment in one month,i call BS.
I doubt these are accurate
Artillery is like 600 a month.
To me that says Russia wins the war of attrition
Europe dont have much to send anymore, especially shells are almost all out. Russia probably produces more in a month than we do in a year…they shoot more in a day than we can produce in 1 month, that math wont hold for much longer! We need to buff up productions ASAP! or were totally fugged
if we gave ukraine several hundred abrams and bradleys, and more of a stock of these ATACM clusters. we’d see some gains. The best part of that statement is that it isn’t even expensive to provide what they really really need. I figure its around 10 Billion in direct financing of the exact weapons needed that would end this war but no……. we watch our politicians circle jerk themselves.
If they aint all getting caught up in some investigations or monitoring their kids porn habbits (new speaker) its all about whos pockets get filled for their votes.
US is the leader of corruption. we just make laws to hide it.
Those Ukrainians military equipment on the pictures doesn’t come close to $75 billion in value, where’s the rest?
All you scouts out there who kept telling me their Bradley was indeed a tank. HA!
Where the fuck are all the GLSDB bombs we promised Ukraine? Weren’t they suppose to arrive in june/July?
Numbers seem a bit off in places, the Ukrainians have fired at least 100 storm shadows at this point and they still have more so several dozen just doesn’t seem right.
Also misses all the Russian contributions to Ukrainian war fund when they run away and leave their tanks and armoured vehicles for the Ukrainians.
Really, the whole west cannot supply more weapons than russia? Shows how much we need our plasma tvs 🙁