More misery for households as Eamon Ryan reveals new ‘small charge’ on way for energy bills | Independent.ie
by happyhigherb
More misery for households as Eamon Ryan reveals new ‘small charge’ on way for energy bills | Independent.ie
by happyhigherb
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Is he high?
How is a big fuck off ship floating around the place better than an on shore storage facility?
> Mr Ryan’s announced a “State-led” initiative on gas storage weeks after An Bord Pleanála ruled out the commercial development of a liquefied natural gas (LNG) terminal at Shannon.
Thankfully most parties seem to be in agreement with this.
The government opposed it – lead by Greens for sure but FF/FG are also collectively responsible for the decision. And 100% had the Greens not been in power FF/FG would probably have supported it.
Sinn Féin [opposed it](https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2022/08/02/tanaiste-leo-varadkar-met-developer-of-shannon-liquefied-natural-gas-project-in-kerry/) – “*Sinn Féin policy is against new fossil fuel infrastructure, and its spokeswoman on climate justice, Lynn Boylan, has said it doesn’t make sense to invest in LNG import terminals.*”
SD [opposed it](https://www.socialdemocrats.ie/government-must-legislate-to-ban-imported-fracked-gas-following-high-court-ruling-on-shannon-lng/)
Labour [opposed it](https://labour.ie/news/2023/04/19/minister-ryan-must-put-a-stop-to-lng-terminal-construction/)
On the other side of the argument the Healy Raes were in favour of it. God is after all in charge of the weather.
Can we get rid of Eamon please. Just put him in a box and leave him there.
Sorry we need to get this fucker out of government ASAP….
Wait, wasn’t this a different thread an hour ago?
Eamon Ryan’s hiding under your bed! He’s gonna getcha!
i honestly have no idea how this guy got to where he is today.
ive no words. sooner the better these muppets are out of power.
Ireland should be investing in biofuel from our farming industry. of course eamon was opposed to this so we couldn’t get funding
The Indo is a rag. Wouldn’t even wipe my arse with it
Man I can’t wait till the next election when the Greens are wiped out
This man is doing untold damage to green causes in Ireland. The polls are showing that the Green are going to lose seats at the next election, at a point where green politics should have the easiest time possible selling green policies.
Unfortunately Eamon Ryan is the master of focusing on the stick and not so much the carrot. No public transport in your area…fuck you here’s a higher fuel tax anyway. Need to heat your home with with oil, gas or electricity…fuck you here’s a new tax. Want to travel or walk on roads that aren’t lethal, fuck you the Minister for transport isn’t a fan of roads.
People have been complaining for years that Ireland has zero gas storage and depends on pipelines from the UK. Last year Sinn Fein and many of the indepedent TDs were screaming at the Government that we had no gas storage for energy security and why wasn’t anything being done about it.
As soon as the Government do something about it, they’re screaming at them for doing so.
This proposal is for the installation of an FSRU (floating storage and regasification unit) ship in the Shannon area, where it can be linked up to the existing gas pipelines. This is a specifically designed ship with large onboard cryogenic storage tanks full of liquid natural gas, together with the equipment to selectively allow it to return to normal temperature and pressure and feed it into the national gas grid on demand.
This serves a number of purposes :
1. It’s vastly simpler to just lease an existing FSRU ship than it is to build an entire facility from scratch. Once the lease is agreed it can in place in months, not years.
2. The lease can also be terminated by agreement, as opposed to an onshore facility which is there forever.
3. The facility would give us ~12 days of gas storage for the country, while we currently have zero. Even the UK only have about 1-2 days’ worth.
4. Additionally, an FSRU allows LNG carrier ships to dock alongside and deliver additional gas, meaning that we can import cheaper gas on the spot market ourselves if we choose, or even sell to the UK for a profit.
Anyone who thinks that all of the above could be done for free is living in cloud cuckoo land.
https://agsi.gie.eu/
The above link shows the size and scope of gas storage units across Europe. See the blank line in the middle with zero storage? That’s us. Not a great place to be in the current energy environment.
We need gas storage. That doesn’t equate to using more gas. We aren’t going to be able to wave a magic wand and be on 100% renewables by Monday morning, but at least by having storage capacity we would have the ability to have options and not be bounced around quite as easily by the likes of Putin.
It has to be paid for, but couldn’t that have been absorbed across the industry, without a highly controversial extra charge on bills?!
It’s like budget airlines, breaking the cost of flights into endless little separate fees.
Also, for very obvious security reasons, the EU had been stressing the use of underground storage – old gas wells primarily… would it not make more sense to reactivate Kinsale head as a storage facility?! It would need some investment in the infrastructure, but it seems rather more logical.
You’d never think we were an island that’s utterly dependent on natural gas for most of our electricity need and that there’s an international and regional energy crisis due to a massive war, or that we were paying the highest prices in the world for power or anything like that.
We are moving so slowly on renewables it’s a joke. Talk, more talk, plans and not nearly enough happening. Endless litigation and objections and kafkaesque processes to go get through.
We won’t be strategic about gas because that might be negative somehow. There’s no plan at all.
Our EV switch over is lagging most of Europe. We seem to be caught in a mixture of not wanting to really do anything because on the one side you’ve people who just not interested in doing anything, and on the other you’ve people who’ve a notion that cars should be taxed off the road entirely, despite the fact that we’ve a country that was planned almost entirely around access to cars, so housing etc is by and large inaccessible by any other means and then… when it comes to public transport it’s all theoretical.
We’ve done feck all on public transport. No new metros, trains are still running on diesel, delayed tranways, crayons on maps. You can’t even get a reliable bus route in our second city in 2023. Inconsistent, inconvenient, unreliable, expensive … = can’t get to work on time without a car
Our cycling infrastructure very patchy and still largely crap, and we’re incapable of dealing with traffic issues/parking issues etc.
But yup let’s spend another 5 years talking about theoretical projects that never happen…
Meanwhile electricity is 42c a kWh 🤷♂️
Greens, the tax party.
Did he forget to apply to the eu for funding again?
Why is it a ship? Seems strange.
Also why isn’t this coming out of the massive budgetary surplus we’ve been hearing about? Seems like the exact kind of thing we should be spending that on.
All while he snoozes in the Dáil! Tax the rich more.
I can’t wait to see these useless, clueless shitbags voted out of government and hopefully into the wilderness where they belong
Fuck off Deputy Ryan, I’m stretched enough as it is, there’s too much month at the end of the money
Oh yes we’re just going to put this wee charge over here, and oh in a couple of months we’re going to put a nice little charge in there, then we’ll put another little upcharge over here.
Fuck off with that please.
>More misery for households as Eamon Ryan ~~reveals new ‘small charge’ on way for energy bills | Independent.ie~~
Greens now have as bad a reputation as the black and tans.
Why not invest in biomethane plants to reduce the shock of a gas shortage? Fine, we need storage, but why not produce some gas of our own? Let the agri businesses lead it. It would help farmers who are under pressure with slurry storage, and with the year we’ve had, where crops were too wet to harvest and germinating in fields could be cut and put in the reactors. It’s also another suitable place to put food waste from restaurants and domestic houses rather than just composting them.
I also doubt the current government could tender this accurately and then get shafted by the construction companies due to missed aspects of the build! We’ve seen it already with the children’s hospital.
This fucker has to go
“EAMON’S MISERY BOAT”