Must be the first war since World War 1, that are having a Christmas truce , Fairplay !
Find it hard to agree with this home for Christmas amnesty.
Everyone deserves a meaningful Christmas.
Now we await the article about all the B&B owners requesting permission from the government to open up to the public for the Christmas period, allowing them to double dip while their rooms are empty.
I hate this country sometimes.
How about if they go home for Christmas they just stay there? Seeing as is must be safe if that’s the case.
I understand them being allowed to visit other countries, but either Ukraine is safe or it isn’t
Don’t Ukrainian people mostly celebrate Christmas according to the old calendar, so Xmas Day is January 7th?
Pre-war I’d been to Ukraine four times, and made a few social media contacts on my trips. It was intense watching everybody fleeing in the first days of the invasion, desperately trying to get out, and then mainly fled to Germany. But……….since then they’ve all gone back, mainly to Kyiv and Odessa. And their lives have pretty much gone back to normal. The start of ’24 looks different from the start of ’22
Piss take honestly
If it’s safe enough to stuff your face for two weeks over there, it’s safe enough to stop using our tax to house ye. We aren’t a forever charity shop.
I dunno why this pisses me off but it does.
This is going to be controversial! You would expect someone who has successfully escaped a war torn country and is seeking shelter in another country would stay put and not be granted a Christmas holiday funded by the host countries tax payers.
Ukraine is for the most part safe now, Israel is far more dangerous currently. Fact is most are hanging around for the 200 euro a week and the prospect of ending up on the housing list and acquiring a new A rate home. While you and me will have to fork out 400k in a bidding war for the same gaf.
We can’t afford to keep Ukrainians forever given we are a tiny island with huge housing problems and if you can go home for christmas you would have to think we are being taken for fools.
I’m half Ukrainian/half polish that’s been here since I was a child and what you guys hear about the situation over there is well pretty exaggerated I must say, yeah it was pretty scary for a while at the beginning but it’s not like that anymore
I have friends and family that have been many times over last 18 months flying into Poland and travelling Ukraine and back
Ireland needs to start vetting immigrants at this stage, situations like the young Irish teacher being killed by scumbags will continue otherwise
I’m not anti immigration, my family are themselves but you should be able to support yourself here and not have criminal records etc to get in
I like the Australian way of you need a few thousand euro to enter/education
Man this is gonna spark some serious trouble such a bad idea
Well this is going to go down well with the Irish public.
This a bit sneaky, the majority of Ukrainians are Eastern Orthodox and their Christmas is on Jan 7th 2024. I know that they (Zelensky) moved it in 2022 to match the western date of 25th of December. But I don’t think tradtions and habits change so easily.
Nah this is some bullshit, we have a housing crisis. If you can go to Ukraine for the holidays then stay there.
Guys, get a grip. There’s obviously a massive difference between going somewhere for a week to check in on family Vs having to stay there. There’s also a massive difference in the burden on the Ukrainian government/ aid organisations
Also, anyone trying to compare the housing crisis to a redo of world war one with cruise missiles added in needs to seriously cop themselves on
Its a bit of a strange scenario, as another poster mentioned, its either safe or it is not… I mean if they have no issue returning to Ukraine for Christmas, why are they looking to come back to Ireland afterwards, would be the question…
Well war has certainly changed anyway
If you can safely return for Christmas you can safely return for the entire winter.
Makes no sense.
I have a Ukrainian person staying with me. Their home city is pretty safe, occasionally a rocket or the likes will get taken out and debris might land on someone’s home or car etc but not too often and few have died near them as it’s not directly under attack or near the battlefront. Also they may not have electricity some weeks. Not all Ukrainians live in areas like this some are safer some are under constant attack, it’s a large country and I don’t blame anyone for wanting to get out both for safety and opportunity, I also see no issue with people wanting to be with family at a special occasion, it’s a risk many people the world over would take in the same scenario.
Ireland is crying out for people with certain skills and should use this as an opportunity to train people imo.
They should not be allowed back after going to Ukraine. It’s either a war zone or it is not. Talk about taking the piss
They’re either refugees or they’re not. Refugees don’t pop home for a holiday.
It’s getting beyond farce at this stage.
That is not fair! They won’t be able to wait for the arrival of the three wise men!
All funded by the Irish tax payer. Fucking joke
Sorry but how the fuck can refugees fleeing war go home for Xmas. This is a complete joke
Wow, this post really ruffled the feathers of all the bigoted wankers lurking around the sub.
Christ almighty.
But Orthodox Christmas is on the 7th of January… they clearly didn’t think of that in the government, did they? 🤦♀️🤦♀️🥰
The majority knows this but the pure and simple answer is that they are given a huge handout in comparison to the weekly wage they’d make back home plus free accommodation, food etc.
It’s so glaringly obvious that piece of shit Leo had to come out publicly and admit they are ‘seriously thinking’ about reducing the handouts next year.
You know its a problem when they concede a rollback before the shit really hits the fan, that doesn’t happen often in this country before being a few committees deep.
Read the title again. Says it all.
I live in Canada from the start of the year, is leo and the boys paying for my flight home at Christmas?
If it is safe enough to visit for the holidays it is safe enough to not need us wasting more tax money on them. Just stay there ffs.
Today I learned that war respects Santa.
I’ll never get my head around commuting to and from a war zone.
This will confuse the fuck out of Santi
Why isn’t it *’If you leave, you leave for good’* ?
Why are they going back at all? It’s a warzone, the reason they’re here is to gain refuge from the war.
The way people are writing here you’d think Ireland didn’t have a housing crisis pre February 2022
This is some load of bolox, once you’re out you’re out simple as!!
Lots of people here being like if you can get home for a few days you can move back for ever. There’s a big difference between getting a few days with your family on the side of the country not being actively bombed and trying to get home to mariupol.
It’s like saying you had to move out of Belfast but because you visit people in cork theres nothing wrong.
I don’t begrudge people trying to carve some normalcy out of a terrible situation like. Maybe they’re visiting a fucking grave, maybe they’re trying to see if they can go home, we don’t know.
Ah yeah, nice measured responses in here from everyone that clearly read the article, not at all xenophobic and insensitive.
Correct me if I’m wrong but don’t Ukrainians celebrate Christmas on the 6th of January?
What day does orthydoxy santa land? Is their christmas not way later?
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Must be the first war since World War 1, that are having a Christmas truce , Fairplay !
Find it hard to agree with this home for Christmas amnesty.
Everyone deserves a meaningful Christmas.
Now we await the article about all the B&B owners requesting permission from the government to open up to the public for the Christmas period, allowing them to double dip while their rooms are empty.
I hate this country sometimes.
How about if they go home for Christmas they just stay there? Seeing as is must be safe if that’s the case.
I understand them being allowed to visit other countries, but either Ukraine is safe or it isn’t
Don’t Ukrainian people mostly celebrate Christmas according to the old calendar, so Xmas Day is January 7th?
Pre-war I’d been to Ukraine four times, and made a few social media contacts on my trips. It was intense watching everybody fleeing in the first days of the invasion, desperately trying to get out, and then mainly fled to Germany. But……….since then they’ve all gone back, mainly to Kyiv and Odessa. And their lives have pretty much gone back to normal. The start of ’24 looks different from the start of ’22
Piss take honestly
If it’s safe enough to stuff your face for two weeks over there, it’s safe enough to stop using our tax to house ye. We aren’t a forever charity shop.
I dunno why this pisses me off but it does.
This is going to be controversial! You would expect someone who has successfully escaped a war torn country and is seeking shelter in another country would stay put and not be granted a Christmas holiday funded by the host countries tax payers.
Ukraine is for the most part safe now, Israel is far more dangerous currently. Fact is most are hanging around for the 200 euro a week and the prospect of ending up on the housing list and acquiring a new A rate home. While you and me will have to fork out 400k in a bidding war for the same gaf.
We can’t afford to keep Ukrainians forever given we are a tiny island with huge housing problems and if you can go home for christmas you would have to think we are being taken for fools.
I’m half Ukrainian/half polish that’s been here since I was a child and what you guys hear about the situation over there is well pretty exaggerated I must say, yeah it was pretty scary for a while at the beginning but it’s not like that anymore
I have friends and family that have been many times over last 18 months flying into Poland and travelling Ukraine and back
Ireland needs to start vetting immigrants at this stage, situations like the young Irish teacher being killed by scumbags will continue otherwise
I’m not anti immigration, my family are themselves but you should be able to support yourself here and not have criminal records etc to get in
I like the Australian way of you need a few thousand euro to enter/education
Man this is gonna spark some serious trouble such a bad idea
Well this is going to go down well with the Irish public.
This a bit sneaky, the majority of Ukrainians are Eastern Orthodox and their Christmas is on Jan 7th 2024. I know that they (Zelensky) moved it in 2022 to match the western date of 25th of December. But I don’t think tradtions and habits change so easily.
Nah this is some bullshit, we have a housing crisis. If you can go to Ukraine for the holidays then stay there.
Guys, get a grip. There’s obviously a massive difference between going somewhere for a week to check in on family Vs having to stay there. There’s also a massive difference in the burden on the Ukrainian government/ aid organisations
Also, anyone trying to compare the housing crisis to a redo of world war one with cruise missiles added in needs to seriously cop themselves on
Its a bit of a strange scenario, as another poster mentioned, its either safe or it is not… I mean if they have no issue returning to Ukraine for Christmas, why are they looking to come back to Ireland afterwards, would be the question…
Well war has certainly changed anyway
If you can safely return for Christmas you can safely return for the entire winter.
Makes no sense.
I have a Ukrainian person staying with me. Their home city is pretty safe, occasionally a rocket or the likes will get taken out and debris might land on someone’s home or car etc but not too often and few have died near them as it’s not directly under attack or near the battlefront. Also they may not have electricity some weeks. Not all Ukrainians live in areas like this some are safer some are under constant attack, it’s a large country and I don’t blame anyone for wanting to get out both for safety and opportunity, I also see no issue with people wanting to be with family at a special occasion, it’s a risk many people the world over would take in the same scenario.
Ireland is crying out for people with certain skills and should use this as an opportunity to train people imo.
They should not be allowed back after going to Ukraine. It’s either a war zone or it is not. Talk about taking the piss
They’re either refugees or they’re not. Refugees don’t pop home for a holiday.
It’s getting beyond farce at this stage.
That is not fair! They won’t be able to wait for the arrival of the three wise men!
All funded by the Irish tax payer. Fucking joke
Sorry but how the fuck can refugees fleeing war go home for Xmas. This is a complete joke
Wow, this post really ruffled the feathers of all the bigoted wankers lurking around the sub.
Christ almighty.
But Orthodox Christmas is on the 7th of January… they clearly didn’t think of that in the government, did they? 🤦♀️🤦♀️🥰
The majority knows this but the pure and simple answer is that they are given a huge handout in comparison to the weekly wage they’d make back home plus free accommodation, food etc.
It’s so glaringly obvious that piece of shit Leo had to come out publicly and admit they are ‘seriously thinking’ about reducing the handouts next year.
You know its a problem when they concede a rollback before the shit really hits the fan, that doesn’t happen often in this country before being a few committees deep.
Read the title again. Says it all.
I live in Canada from the start of the year, is leo and the boys paying for my flight home at Christmas?
If it is safe enough to visit for the holidays it is safe enough to not need us wasting more tax money on them. Just stay there ffs.
Today I learned that war respects Santa.
I’ll never get my head around commuting to and from a war zone.
This will confuse the fuck out of Santi
Why isn’t it *’If you leave, you leave for good’* ?
Why are they going back at all? It’s a warzone, the reason they’re here is to gain refuge from the war.
The way people are writing here you’d think Ireland didn’t have a housing crisis pre February 2022
This is some load of bolox, once you’re out you’re out simple as!!
Lots of people here being like if you can get home for a few days you can move back for ever. There’s a big difference between getting a few days with your family on the side of the country not being actively bombed and trying to get home to mariupol.
It’s like saying you had to move out of Belfast but because you visit people in cork theres nothing wrong.
I don’t begrudge people trying to carve some normalcy out of a terrible situation like. Maybe they’re visiting a fucking grave, maybe they’re trying to see if they can go home, we don’t know.
Ah yeah, nice measured responses in here from everyone that clearly read the article, not at all xenophobic and insensitive.
Correct me if I’m wrong but don’t Ukrainians celebrate Christmas on the 6th of January?
What day does orthydoxy santa land? Is their christmas not way later?