>He also admitted that “mistakes have been made – by me, by my family”.
No mate, this is solely on you. It’s your device to look after.
He can blame whoever he likes, as long as he pays it himself.
What an idiot.
This is one of those political scenarios which has snowballed into something much largely simply by lying, instead of admitting he fucked up and saying sorry I’ll pay the bill.
At which point it would’ve blown over – people get caught out by roaming charges all the time.
He’s made it a thing by lying about it.
He made a mistake but people need to calm down. Compared to the dishonesty of Boris etc this should be an apology and move on.
He let his son use his government work phone? Admitting that would be a disciplinary/sackable in any normal role requiring security clearance.
This makes his position worse, not better.
It was a Government issued device. And you signed an IT policy.
Because of the sensitive nature of the emails that you send/receive you may have even signed other security policies
To allow a family member to use your Government issued device to watch football is clearly a breach of those policies.
You fucked up. You can’t blame this on your son, you should have said no to him.
This is all on you.
>Under questioning, the Scottish Health Secretary said the iPad itself had not been used by his children, but rather been used as a hotspot to allow internet access for other devices.
If this is true then he knew full well from the very start that the data wasn’t being used exclusively for constituency matters as he had claimed because of course his children wouldn’t be using it for that.
And to set the iPad up as a WiFi hotspot to allow your children to use is a pretty deliberate action and not something you do accidentally.
But or course ‘saying’ that it was used as a WiFi hotspot by your children is less damaging than admitting that either you watched the football (as an avid supporter did he really let his children watch and not do so himself…) or admitting that you gave your children access to a government iPad with confidential information on to play around with.
The story isn’t finished yet.
Teenage sons spending £11k on ‘streaming football’ to their personal devices
*Chinny Recon*
At the rate we’re going i don’t think SNP politicians can be trusted with a petty cash tin.
They are finished come the next election. Good riddance too.
I’m sure the prices are expensive but are they really so expensive? the article reckons £8k for 2gb of data?
I feel very out of touch for now knowing how bad it is.
It’s scary how using 7GB of Data abroad is racking up costs in there thousands!?! Like Netflix put out a statement on the BBC that it’s only 2 hours worth of it’s highest quality setting.
Of course, wrong device to be watching a live stream of a 90 minute football match, but still that charge of roaming data, regardless who pays it, is criminal in itself!
He should pay every penny of it back, resign and hope the proculator fiscal decides its not in the public interest to charge him with fraud
Very reminiscent of this post from just under two weeks ago
Yeah. He was watching porn. But blames the kids for watching football.
I blame the parents for letting a work iPad be used by their children.
Someone at work tried to blame certain browsing history on family members and it didn’t fly as they were informed that they are responsible for security and making sure only they use the work computer.
If I did that on my company provided laptop I certainly would either get a disciplinary or sacked for this.
But this is the government, a bunch of sleazy bastards.
They can never just take it on the chin, from the start.
Just admit it and own up, take responsibility for it.
Instead they drag it out over a period of time and blame others.
What a cunt.
And he would have got away with it if it wasn’t for those pesky kids.
He needs to personally pay the fine and be fired, anything less would be taking the piss
His I pad. His responsibility. Trying to shift blame is a pretty standard shabby political trick.
Failure to take responsibility for this is such a character flaw that he isn’t fit to be a minister- Christ we hold the lowest rates in the MOD to a higher standard.
Nice to know that our MPs and ministers aren’t above giving their children government issued ipads that is bound to be filled with confidential stuff and can easily be lost in the hands of a child.
Your own fault for allowing them to use the iPad, dipshit.
Oh, and isn’t this against some policy?
At the very least, he should personally foot the bill.
When I worked at the Bank of England – we were given a security lecture and had to sit a mini exam before we were given work mobile devices.
Among that was obviously how important it was to never allow anyone else access to it, including family members. And even a part regarding making an analysis of the possible phone conversation before answering it in a public place such as a train where your conversation could be heard.
If we were to lose it. It was curtains.
I imagine (or hope) a similar procedure would be in place for a minister. And I would hope (but definitely not imagine) a similar consequence would be on the table if they were careless like this lemon.
I’m waiting for this story to take it’s inevitable next step to the truth.
It’s not the £11k that bothers me. It’s the level of stupidity needed.
Would absolutely get sacked if anyone but myself was using my work devices.
As much as I want to say 6GB of data isn’t even that big and it’s big telecom fleecing the fuck out of the average consumer, it’s still largely concerning that a minister would be using allowing his kids to use a government-issued iPad in *any* capacity, even if it’s just tethering data.
Sir Max Headroom must be celebrating the SNP’s implosion right now, because we just know we’re gonna see a Labour government in Holyrood next election. Scottish voters are a lot more savvy about who they vote. It’s not like England where a Tory MP could do this and not only be promoted to another cabinet position but also win the next election by a landslide because our voters are fickle.
Stop. Fucking. Lying.
So sick of politicians giving excuses that would get you fired in real life.
He was probably watching porn and will eventually get caught out. It’s probably really freaky stuff too, like midget scat porn or something.
Wait, didn’t he say it was for “ministerial business”?
So, how much is this little charade costing; has he actually paid back the money he knows he owes.
The investigation, the hours of time wasted.
I surmise lessons will be learned, he will be told to keep his head down, agree a repayment plan and keep his job. Fortunately, he will also have access to slippery pole legal advice from politicians and lawyers on the payroll, paid from the public purse to pick up these kind of dog turds.
He knows he screwed up but rather than pay back the money and accept his dismissal for gross misconduct etc. he’s allowed this merry dance to continue. Was he even suspended on no pay, no don’t answer that, course he didn’t.
Wow, yet another one off the political conveyer belt of weasels.
Did anyone read the full article? He didn’t say they watched on his iPad, he said he failed to organise proper roaming on the SIM card.
And then, “Under questioning, the Scottish Health Secretary said the iPad itself had not been used by his children, but rather been used as a hotspot to allow internet access for other devices.”
Yes, it’s a major stuff up. But no o fixation he breached security access to the device. Unless the tethering specifically is a breach. Current status is that he says they didn’t have access to the device itself.
He’s fucked. Does he expect people to believe that his kids were watching the football but he wasn’t watching with them? – his own team on the biggest derby match of the season?
Theres me thinking he’s working eh .. he should pay the bill .
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>He also admitted that “mistakes have been made – by me, by my family”.
No mate, this is solely on you. It’s your device to look after.
He can blame whoever he likes, as long as he pays it himself.
What an idiot.
This is one of those political scenarios which has snowballed into something much largely simply by lying, instead of admitting he fucked up and saying sorry I’ll pay the bill.
At which point it would’ve blown over – people get caught out by roaming charges all the time.
He’s made it a thing by lying about it.
He made a mistake but people need to calm down. Compared to the dishonesty of Boris etc this should be an apology and move on.
He let his son use his government work phone? Admitting that would be a disciplinary/sackable in any normal role requiring security clearance.
This makes his position worse, not better.
It was a Government issued device. And you signed an IT policy.
Because of the sensitive nature of the emails that you send/receive you may have even signed other security policies
To allow a family member to use your Government issued device to watch football is clearly a breach of those policies.
You fucked up. You can’t blame this on your son, you should have said no to him.
This is all on you.
>Under questioning, the Scottish Health Secretary said the iPad itself had not been used by his children, but rather been used as a hotspot to allow internet access for other devices.
If this is true then he knew full well from the very start that the data wasn’t being used exclusively for constituency matters as he had claimed because of course his children wouldn’t be using it for that.
And to set the iPad up as a WiFi hotspot to allow your children to use is a pretty deliberate action and not something you do accidentally.
But or course ‘saying’ that it was used as a WiFi hotspot by your children is less damaging than admitting that either you watched the football (as an avid supporter did he really let his children watch and not do so himself…) or admitting that you gave your children access to a government iPad with confidential information on to play around with.
The story isn’t finished yet.
Teenage sons spending £11k on ‘streaming football’ to their personal devices
*Chinny Recon*
At the rate we’re going i don’t think SNP politicians can be trusted with a petty cash tin.
They are finished come the next election. Good riddance too.
I’m sure the prices are expensive but are they really so expensive? the article reckons £8k for 2gb of data?
I feel very out of touch for now knowing how bad it is.
It’s scary how using 7GB of Data abroad is racking up costs in there thousands!?! Like Netflix put out a statement on the BBC that it’s only 2 hours worth of it’s highest quality setting.
Of course, wrong device to be watching a live stream of a 90 minute football match, but still that charge of roaming data, regardless who pays it, is criminal in itself!
He should pay every penny of it back, resign and hope the proculator fiscal decides its not in the public interest to charge him with fraud
Very reminiscent of this post from just under two weeks ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/LegalAdviceUK/comments/17mcdzx/mobile_phone_bill_of_over_12000_urgent_help/
Yeah. He was watching porn. But blames the kids for watching football.
I blame the parents for letting a work iPad be used by their children.
Someone at work tried to blame certain browsing history on family members and it didn’t fly as they were informed that they are responsible for security and making sure only they use the work computer.
If I did that on my company provided laptop I certainly would either get a disciplinary or sacked for this.
But this is the government, a bunch of sleazy bastards.
They can never just take it on the chin, from the start.
Just admit it and own up, take responsibility for it.
Instead they drag it out over a period of time and blame others.
What a cunt.
And he would have got away with it if it wasn’t for those pesky kids.
He needs to personally pay the fine and be fired, anything less would be taking the piss
His I pad. His responsibility. Trying to shift blame is a pretty standard shabby political trick.
Failure to take responsibility for this is such a character flaw that he isn’t fit to be a minister- Christ we hold the lowest rates in the MOD to a higher standard.
Nice to know that our MPs and ministers aren’t above giving their children government issued ipads that is bound to be filled with confidential stuff and can easily be lost in the hands of a child.
Your own fault for allowing them to use the iPad, dipshit.
Oh, and isn’t this against some policy?
At the very least, he should personally foot the bill.
When I worked at the Bank of England – we were given a security lecture and had to sit a mini exam before we were given work mobile devices.
Among that was obviously how important it was to never allow anyone else access to it, including family members. And even a part regarding making an analysis of the possible phone conversation before answering it in a public place such as a train where your conversation could be heard.
If we were to lose it. It was curtains.
I imagine (or hope) a similar procedure would be in place for a minister. And I would hope (but definitely not imagine) a similar consequence would be on the table if they were careless like this lemon.
I’m waiting for this story to take it’s inevitable next step to the truth.
It’s not the £11k that bothers me. It’s the level of stupidity needed.
Would absolutely get sacked if anyone but myself was using my work devices.
As much as I want to say 6GB of data isn’t even that big and it’s big telecom fleecing the fuck out of the average consumer, it’s still largely concerning that a minister would be using allowing his kids to use a government-issued iPad in *any* capacity, even if it’s just tethering data.
Sir Max Headroom must be celebrating the SNP’s implosion right now, because we just know we’re gonna see a Labour government in Holyrood next election. Scottish voters are a lot more savvy about who they vote. It’s not like England where a Tory MP could do this and not only be promoted to another cabinet position but also win the next election by a landslide because our voters are fickle.
Stop. Fucking. Lying.
So sick of politicians giving excuses that would get you fired in real life.
He was probably watching porn and will eventually get caught out. It’s probably really freaky stuff too, like midget scat porn or something.
Wait, didn’t he say it was for “ministerial business”?
So, how much is this little charade costing; has he actually paid back the money he knows he owes.
The investigation, the hours of time wasted.
I surmise lessons will be learned, he will be told to keep his head down, agree a repayment plan and keep his job. Fortunately, he will also have access to slippery pole legal advice from politicians and lawyers on the payroll, paid from the public purse to pick up these kind of dog turds.
He knows he screwed up but rather than pay back the money and accept his dismissal for gross misconduct etc. he’s allowed this merry dance to continue. Was he even suspended on no pay, no don’t answer that, course he didn’t.
Wow, yet another one off the political conveyer belt of weasels.
Did anyone read the full article? He didn’t say they watched on his iPad, he said he failed to organise proper roaming on the SIM card.
And then, “Under questioning, the Scottish Health Secretary said the iPad itself had not been used by his children, but rather been used as a hotspot to allow internet access for other devices.”
Yes, it’s a major stuff up. But no o fixation he breached security access to the device. Unless the tethering specifically is a breach. Current status is that he says they didn’t have access to the device itself.
He’s fucked. Does he expect people to believe that his kids were watching the football but he wasn’t watching with them? – his own team on the biggest derby match of the season?
Theres me thinking he’s working eh .. he should pay the bill .