The same thing is happening on Lithuanian and Polish border with Belarus. They use these poor people as a weapon, this is sick and pure evil.
Can’t wait for Frontex to do something useful. Oh… oh wait..
Officials are trying to prepare for it but it will still propably be a total shitshow if it happens. Not to mention the special forces that may or may not come with them and cayse even more chaos.
First time?
Can someone please enlighten me why Finland can’t just not accept them and send them back?
ffs
here we go again -_-
And yet the Western world still can’t wake up to massively prop up ammunition production.
The first batch consisted mostly of young men without visas (i.e. illegal entry). My guess is these men are saboteurs trained by FSB or equivalent.
Now that Russia has managed to get our attention and the border will be closed for the most part, the second batch will consist of women, small children and families, because they evoke sentimental feelings as they shiver in the freezing temperatures of Lapland, where two border crossings remain open.
It’s time to build a wall, and make Russia pay for it.
Oooh that’s spicy. It was easy for Western news media ran by people with agenda against Poland to make a villain out of Poland for closing the Belarusian border.
But those same media outlets *like* Finland, it is one of their darlings. Curious how they will react when it’s Finland being attacked.
“Londongrad” then “Baligrad” and now they’re planning with “Helsingrad”… I hope the Finns won’t let those orc migrants covered in human skin inside.
Southern border with Russia is now officially closed.
You know, maybe this is also why Europe doesn’t like working with you anymore, Putin.
Also in Spain!
With that headline I was expecting hundreds or thousands, not like 80
You have to give it to Russia, they understand how to weaponize the West’s empathy.
As soon as Finland accepts and hosts these migrants, Russia will increase the number of migrants dozens of times. The only way to stop this is to return them to Russia. Then the flow of illegal migrants will decrease, as the crowd on Russian territory is Russia’s problem. Tested by Poland.
Do not accept migrants from Russia. Any migrants. Simple.
I have a win-win solution: actively push them back and let them be Russia’s problem. But I suppose politicians would rather take them, and then take more, and then take even more, and then keep taking them, because why would Russia stop?
Finland was going to strengthen the borders anyways, this might just speed up that process.
As always Russia is acting as stupid as they do cruel.
Didn’t they close the border already?
Wow, somebody realized? They’re doing this via Belarus on Polish and Lithuanian borders since 2021. But hey … we should all let these people in of course cause open borders etc … bloody hell.
Meanwhile Dimitry Peskov:
“We deeply regret that the Finnish leadership has chosen to deliberately move away from what used to be good relations,” the Kremlin spokesperson told reporters, as reported by AFP.
Yes. Exactly. Are we the baddies now?
FFS.
Any guesses on what the Russian game here is? They can probably turn this up or down, however is convenient.
Women and children are one kind of pressure, men another.. they could even deliberately send over fanatical types… For extra political / media moxie.
Russia could create scenes that appear like a mass migration.. that was the belarus/poland border game. A few days of high action, panic-inducing migration.
I think I’m more subtle game is likely here. Both because it’s around 2… And because Finnish politics is more subtle than Poland’s. That is, likely to be more effective, and hence more dangerous.
You don’t need thousands of people, to turn daily median political narratives into putty in your hands. It doesn’t half assed Jihadis, plucked from wherever and planted in Finland for future newsbait. Leak their profile of past statements, affiliations and deeds once they settle in Joensuu. Have some saucy images, videos, facts banked to use startegically as the media frenzy does it’s thing.
A very small scale, easy operation can yield hybrid gold. It doesn’t take systemic genius, or even competence to pull this off. A single FSB officer, with a smart/nefarious plan.. could get a lot done on a minor budget.
One of the non-incidental ironies of modern European politics, is it pretty much anything Russia do here will only strengthen the pro Putin and or put in wings the Euro right wing
Fuck Russia. Let’s just close the entire border already. Nothing good comes from there anyway.
Those clumsy migrants, their documents are always falling out of their pockets! They also seem to get lost in forests a lot…
I’ve seen this movie before. Several times, in fact.
So…..when are we going to deal with the elephant in the room and the source of so many current problems?
And they play it double by helping western Nazi/far right/populists (financially), so that they weaken western governments further. That’s gotta be some form of twisted poetry.
So many bigots in here.
Oh yes please in band Finland to protect ethnic Russians. That will go so well
Major suprise pikachu vibes in the sub. Turkey has been doing it to Greece since 2015.
Try coming to Europe legally. You have money to support yourself for 6 months although you’re visiting family for 2 weeks, proof of employment back home, proof of a bond, invitation letter from said family saying they’ll cover your expense and accommodation, a return flight and visa fees only to have your application denied. What utter rubbish. Yet the door is swung wide open for millions of illegals. Next stop, Moscow!
>There are already plans in place to build a 200-kilometre fence with enhanced electronic surveillance equipment along the border,
Wait, aren’t we always telling the Americans that this is racist?
Haha jokes on them. They’re just strengthening Finland with diversity.
Less than an hour after this announcement there were 10 bikers showing up on Vartius border point.. It’s one of the border points that will take asylum seekers and is open. Located up north from these closed points. The distance there is 1000km from St. Petersburg.
There is an awful easy solution but I don’t want to be banned again
None of this would be an issue if we had serious leaders and strong external borders.
They advertise everywhere in the Middle East, claiming that they can provide a safe and guaranteed entry into the EU. People there spend thousands of USD to buy plane tickets to come to russia/belarus, and then they’re put on buses, taken to the border somewhere in a forest and armed guards tell them to walk across.
Belarus has been doing that for a couple years at the border with Lithuania.
Seriously? <100 people crossing the border illegally in 3 months is ‘hybrid warfare’?
> Although overall numbers are still low it still represents a sharp uptick in a relatively short period of time. Some 91 people arrived since the end of August until the weekend, while on Monday the Border Guard said 39 more people arrived, and Finnish media reported more than 50 arrived at one specific border crossing on Monday, many of them on brand new bicycles.
Just don’t let Germany hear this, they’ll immediately jump the Fins and cry “Noooo, you can’t just make push-backs! Nooo, borders can’t be secured! You need to take care of these migrants!!!”
They did the same when Lukaschenko from Belarus tried it with using migrants in hybrid-warfare, they blamed Poland instead Belarus & Russia.
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It’s happening again…
The same thing is happening on Lithuanian and Polish border with Belarus. They use these poor people as a weapon, this is sick and pure evil.
Can’t wait for Frontex to do something useful. Oh… oh wait..
Officials are trying to prepare for it but it will still propably be a total shitshow if it happens. Not to mention the special forces that may or may not come with them and cayse even more chaos.
First time?
Can someone please enlighten me why Finland can’t just not accept them and send them back?
ffs
here we go again -_-
And yet the Western world still can’t wake up to massively prop up ammunition production.
The first batch consisted mostly of young men without visas (i.e. illegal entry). My guess is these men are saboteurs trained by FSB or equivalent.
Now that Russia has managed to get our attention and the border will be closed for the most part, the second batch will consist of women, small children and families, because they evoke sentimental feelings as they shiver in the freezing temperatures of Lapland, where two border crossings remain open.
It’s time to build a wall, and make Russia pay for it.
Oooh that’s spicy. It was easy for Western news media ran by people with agenda against Poland to make a villain out of Poland for closing the Belarusian border.
But those same media outlets *like* Finland, it is one of their darlings. Curious how they will react when it’s Finland being attacked.
“Londongrad” then “Baligrad” and now they’re planning with “Helsingrad”… I hope the Finns won’t let those orc migrants covered in human skin inside.
Southern border with Russia is now officially closed.
https://yle.fi/a/74-20060609?utm_source=social-media-share&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ylefiapp
You know, maybe this is also why Europe doesn’t like working with you anymore, Putin.
Also in Spain!
With that headline I was expecting hundreds or thousands, not like 80
You have to give it to Russia, they understand how to weaponize the West’s empathy.
As soon as Finland accepts and hosts these migrants, Russia will increase the number of migrants dozens of times. The only way to stop this is to return them to Russia. Then the flow of illegal migrants will decrease, as the crowd on Russian territory is Russia’s problem. Tested by Poland.
Do not accept migrants from Russia. Any migrants. Simple.
I have a win-win solution: actively push them back and let them be Russia’s problem. But I suppose politicians would rather take them, and then take more, and then take even more, and then keep taking them, because why would Russia stop?
Finland was going to strengthen the borders anyways, this might just speed up that process.
As always Russia is acting as stupid as they do cruel.
Didn’t they close the border already?
Wow, somebody realized? They’re doing this via Belarus on Polish and Lithuanian borders since 2021. But hey … we should all let these people in of course cause open borders etc … bloody hell.
Meanwhile Dimitry Peskov:
“We deeply regret that the Finnish leadership has chosen to deliberately move away from what used to be good relations,” the Kremlin spokesperson told reporters, as reported by AFP.
Yes. Exactly. Are we the baddies now?
FFS.
Any guesses on what the Russian game here is? They can probably turn this up or down, however is convenient.
Women and children are one kind of pressure, men another.. they could even deliberately send over fanatical types… For extra political / media moxie.
Russia could create scenes that appear like a mass migration.. that was the belarus/poland border game. A few days of high action, panic-inducing migration.
I think I’m more subtle game is likely here. Both because it’s around 2… And because Finnish politics is more subtle than Poland’s. That is, likely to be more effective, and hence more dangerous.
You don’t need thousands of people, to turn daily median political narratives into putty in your hands. It doesn’t half assed Jihadis, plucked from wherever and planted in Finland for future newsbait. Leak their profile of past statements, affiliations and deeds once they settle in Joensuu. Have some saucy images, videos, facts banked to use startegically as the media frenzy does it’s thing.
A very small scale, easy operation can yield hybrid gold. It doesn’t take systemic genius, or even competence to pull this off. A single FSB officer, with a smart/nefarious plan.. could get a lot done on a minor budget.
One of the non-incidental ironies of modern European politics, is it pretty much anything Russia do here will only strengthen the pro Putin and or put in wings the Euro right wing
Fuck Russia. Let’s just close the entire border already. Nothing good comes from there anyway.
Those clumsy migrants, their documents are always falling out of their pockets! They also seem to get lost in forests a lot…
I’ve seen this movie before. Several times, in fact.
So…..when are we going to deal with the elephant in the room and the source of so many current problems?
And they play it double by helping western Nazi/far right/populists (financially), so that they weaken western governments further. That’s gotta be some form of twisted poetry.
So many bigots in here.
Oh yes please in band Finland to protect ethnic Russians. That will go so well
Major suprise pikachu vibes in the sub. Turkey has been doing it to Greece since 2015.
Try coming to Europe legally. You have money to support yourself for 6 months although you’re visiting family for 2 weeks, proof of employment back home, proof of a bond, invitation letter from said family saying they’ll cover your expense and accommodation, a return flight and visa fees only to have your application denied. What utter rubbish. Yet the door is swung wide open for millions of illegals. Next stop, Moscow!
>There are already plans in place to build a 200-kilometre fence with enhanced electronic surveillance equipment along the border,
Wait, aren’t we always telling the Americans that this is racist?
Haha jokes on them. They’re just strengthening Finland with diversity.
https://yle.fi/a/74-20060609
Less than an hour after this announcement there were 10 bikers showing up on Vartius border point.. It’s one of the border points that will take asylum seekers and is open. Located up north from these closed points. The distance there is 1000km from St. Petersburg.
There is an awful easy solution but I don’t want to be banned again
None of this would be an issue if we had serious leaders and strong external borders.
They advertise everywhere in the Middle East, claiming that they can provide a safe and guaranteed entry into the EU. People there spend thousands of USD to buy plane tickets to come to russia/belarus, and then they’re put on buses, taken to the border somewhere in a forest and armed guards tell them to walk across.
Belarus has been doing that for a couple years at the border with Lithuania.
Seriously? <100 people crossing the border illegally in 3 months is ‘hybrid warfare’?
> Although overall numbers are still low it still represents a sharp uptick in a relatively short period of time. Some 91 people arrived since the end of August until the weekend, while on Monday the Border Guard said 39 more people arrived, and Finnish media reported more than 50 arrived at one specific border crossing on Monday, many of them on brand new bicycles.
Just don’t let Germany hear this, they’ll immediately jump the Fins and cry “Noooo, you can’t just make push-backs! Nooo, borders can’t be secured! You need to take care of these migrants!!!”
They did the same when Lukaschenko from Belarus tried it with using migrants in hybrid-warfare, they blamed Poland instead Belarus & Russia.