Article: 300,000 long term unemployed with another 2.5m in long term absence due to sickness or disability. Government response: Over 1m vacancies so clearly enough work for everyone.
Math.
They did this years ago and years ago before that, work for benefits isn’t a new stick to beat poor people with
Why not make mandatory placements in a governmental scheme that does projects for the public good instead of cheap labour for private companies.
Maybe if they invest in medical trials for Long Covid (affecting at least 2M people) and other chronic illnesses affecting peoples ability to work instead of throwing useless CBT and exercise suggestions at them then we might have a healthier population who actually CAN work.
Edit – Anyone upvoting please consider sharing the billboard campaign for clinical trials seen below
Is this not a policy from a decade ago? If it didn’t work then why is it going to work now? If it did work then why was it stopped?
It didn’t work ten years ago, it won’t work now.
Stop wasting more tax payers money with this shite ffs.
So people who can’t work are expected to do work to get work and if they don’t they don’t get benefits they need to live off and outcomes for disabled people are made infinitely worst because of that.
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You know what would get more disabled people into work, public law mandating accommodations at the cost of the employer and law saying that discrimination on that basis is a criminal offence. That’ll get a lot of disabled people jobs that pay enough for them to both work and live as a disabled person, which isn’t cheap.
“under rules planned for late next year.”
So around the time the public has or is about to tell them to go do one. It’s all just guff, the grifters know they’ll never be in power to implement it.
Well, now, directed labour has returned to the UK. That was last seen during World War 2, if I recall correctly…
So another attempt at the scheme that got massively abused by both job centres and businesses?
They tried this before.
It failed. And it’ll fail again. Especially where I live – most places refusing to accept “Work Experience” candidates any longer due to the DWPs bullshit.
And they aren’t going to be in government to even implement this late next year.
Getting people into work sounds cool but reading it over it just sounds like an excuse to say disabled people should be able to work regardless of what the disability is.
ah yes, the old “dont advertise payed employment and get a conscript from the dole office instead”.
these are the malicious fuckers that make training courses sanctionable under uc.
i remember placements where plenty of people who got laid off then got sent back to their previous employer
cant wait to see the first quadriplegic ordered to go do manual labour in a warehouse 2 towns over.
that 2.5bln career support is going to go directly into the pockets of pricks running ‘training placment’ schemes.
>which will also see an extra £2.5bn spent on career support
Hang, isn’t the governments position that we can’t afford the doctors raise, costed at £1bn?
Something doesn’t smell right here.
Also that’s ~£8k per person who has been registered unemployed for over a year (300k people).
That’s a lot of fucking money.
So basically what they did last time and the courts told them it was unlawful. Wonderful.
At the start of the title, I totally thought this was one of those things about Benevolent Crumpetstain.
And surely they are paid minimum wage, right? Because that is the law, right?
Just kidding, and sorry for calling you surely.
Lets make this very clear. Forcing people to work with the threat that not doing so will leave them destitute and unable to obtain basic necessities is slavery.
Depriving people of basic necessities for refusing to work is a form of torture.
We do not live in a humane society.
I cannot describe how much I detest Tories. They make me wish that hell was a real place, because it’s the only way I can see these monsters facing any real justice.
If I had a business the first person on my wanted list of candidates would always be:
a) Someone not qualified to do the job
b) Someone who just doesnt want to do the job
c) Someone who just doesnt want to work, period.
Some businesses are going to feel themselves extremely fortunate to have such a talent pool at their disposal :/
I did this under the coalition in 2010. What happens is you work for experience and a offer for a job but companies won’t actually offer you the job or give a reference as you are not on there payroll. So you work for free and the experience does not count
They’re also proposing cutting the additional sum people get on LCWRA and ESA if they are not receiving PIP making those people up to £390 a month worse off, no doubt as a way to pressure people back into work to make up that lost money despite them being placed in the ‘unlikely to return to work’ group of their disability entitlement.
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Article: 300,000 long term unemployed with another 2.5m in long term absence due to sickness or disability. Government response: Over 1m vacancies so clearly enough work for everyone.
Math.
They did this years ago and years ago before that, work for benefits isn’t a new stick to beat poor people with
Why not make mandatory placements in a governmental scheme that does projects for the public good instead of cheap labour for private companies.
Maybe if they invest in medical trials for Long Covid (affecting at least 2M people) and other chronic illnesses affecting peoples ability to work instead of throwing useless CBT and exercise suggestions at them then we might have a healthier population who actually CAN work.
Edit – Anyone upvoting please consider sharing the billboard campaign for clinical trials seen below
https://x.com/aaronca11/status/1714987702561440114?s=46
Is this not a policy from a decade ago? If it didn’t work then why is it going to work now? If it did work then why was it stopped?
It didn’t work ten years ago, it won’t work now.
Stop wasting more tax payers money with this shite ffs.
So people who can’t work are expected to do work to get work and if they don’t they don’t get benefits they need to live off and outcomes for disabled people are made infinitely worst because of that.
​
You know what would get more disabled people into work, public law mandating accommodations at the cost of the employer and law saying that discrimination on that basis is a criminal offence. That’ll get a lot of disabled people jobs that pay enough for them to both work and live as a disabled person, which isn’t cheap.
“under rules planned for late next year.”
So around the time the public has or is about to tell them to go do one. It’s all just guff, the grifters know they’ll never be in power to implement it.
Well, now, directed labour has returned to the UK. That was last seen during World War 2, if I recall correctly…
So another attempt at the scheme that got massively abused by both job centres and businesses?
They tried this before.
It failed. And it’ll fail again. Especially where I live – most places refusing to accept “Work Experience” candidates any longer due to the DWPs bullshit.
And they aren’t going to be in government to even implement this late next year.
Getting people into work sounds cool but reading it over it just sounds like an excuse to say disabled people should be able to work regardless of what the disability is.
ah yes, the old “dont advertise payed employment and get a conscript from the dole office instead”.
these are the malicious fuckers that make training courses sanctionable under uc.
i remember placements where plenty of people who got laid off then got sent back to their previous employer
cant wait to see the first quadriplegic ordered to go do manual labour in a warehouse 2 towns over.
that 2.5bln career support is going to go directly into the pockets of pricks running ‘training placment’ schemes.
>which will also see an extra £2.5bn spent on career support
Hang, isn’t the governments position that we can’t afford the doctors raise, costed at £1bn?
Something doesn’t smell right here.
Also that’s ~£8k per person who has been registered unemployed for over a year (300k people).
That’s a lot of fucking money.
So basically what they did last time and the courts told them it was unlawful. Wonderful.
At the start of the title, I totally thought this was one of those things about Benevolent Crumpetstain.
And surely they are paid minimum wage, right? Because that is the law, right?
Just kidding, and sorry for calling you surely.
Lets make this very clear. Forcing people to work with the threat that not doing so will leave them destitute and unable to obtain basic necessities is slavery.
Depriving people of basic necessities for refusing to work is a form of torture.
We do not live in a humane society.
I cannot describe how much I detest Tories. They make me wish that hell was a real place, because it’s the only way I can see these monsters facing any real justice.
If I had a business the first person on my wanted list of candidates would always be:
a) Someone not qualified to do the job
b) Someone who just doesnt want to do the job
c) Someone who just doesnt want to work, period.
Some businesses are going to feel themselves extremely fortunate to have such a talent pool at their disposal :/
I did this under the coalition in 2010. What happens is you work for experience and a offer for a job but companies won’t actually offer you the job or give a reference as you are not on there payroll. So you work for free and the experience does not count
They’re also proposing cutting the additional sum people get on LCWRA and ESA if they are not receiving PIP making those people up to £390 a month worse off, no doubt as a way to pressure people back into work to make up that lost money despite them being placed in the ‘unlikely to return to work’ group of their disability entitlement.
https://www.bigissue.com/news/social-justice/half-million-disabled-people-universal-credit-cut-dwp-plans/
Benefit claimants who can’t find a job to face becoming slaves.
Wages have stagnated for years, while the cost of everything gas soared.
If my options were be broke and work a 40 hour week and be broke and sit at home, I’d go for option B!
Once again this is yet another deflection from the real issues.
They cannot fix fucking anything this lot.
Noone is going to take on the kind of people who don’t want to work.
It would be better to just make work actually pay and use the job centre as an employment office.
Instead of just using it as a glorified beating stick.
Also the only difference between a “work coach” and a benefit claimant is what side of the desk they sit on
Do this work you’re possibly not able to physically do, or we stop giving money to feed/house yourself.
Might as well put people in a workhouse. Please Sir, can I have some more?