>AWRAD “surveyed 668 Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, during the fourth week of the ongoing Gaza War. The team conducted the survey through tablet-assisted, face-to-face interviews
Russia scored a fat 40%. The UK had 3 points; the US and Irael, zero. So we’re doing something right.
I understand if people support Palestinian civilians.
But I do not understand people who support Hamas and even less, people who support Oct 7…
Makes no sense to me.
I don’t agree with them, but it’s understandable, with decades of repression, low education rate, low employment rate, tons of Hamas propaganda. Palestinians are born to hate Israel.
Pretty much the opposite of what the pro-Palistinian crowd has claimed for a month now. It has been fairly obvious Palistinians support hamas this whole time.
Not surprising when they celebrated 9/11.
Supporters of terrorist attacks really seem like the type of people that just want to live in peace in a 2 state solution. They definitely wouldn’t try to eradicate Israel at the first opportunity.
Once again, something that demonstrates just how complicated a solution to this conflict is.
I by no means like the settlements, let alone messianic Zionism. Still, among the many oversimplifications this conflict goes through in the shallow debates online is this notion that the occupation of the West Bank is just due to greed or religious reasons and that granting the West Bank to Palestinians would settle things (no pun intended).
The occupation very much has security reasons. I suspect many people don’t consider just how small a land we’re talking about, and how Israel doesn’t have even a bit of strategic depth. In the 1967 borders, its two most important cities — Jerusalem and Tel Aviv — would be nerve-rackingly close to a hostile nation. Once again, this is another fairly unique element of this conflict that many don’t really comprehend. People can’t really imagine how it would be like for a nation you have been in conflict for a century with to be within jogging distance of your biggest cities. Without the occupation, Israel’s security would be considerably lessened, with Palestinian armament no longer in its control. And this is a much bigger border than the one with the Gaza Strip.
I still believe they should eventually have their own state, but it’s not as simple as just giving them the land and evacuating the IDF and settlements. Israel is by no means a saint country (how many really are), but its security concerns are very much based on reality and history (history that precedes the settlements, and even the establishment of Israel as a country). I don’t know how to change this. It’s generations of conflict and trauma made worse by active indoctrination by Palestinian authorities to violent opposition. But for Israel to consider a two-state solution viable, it’s understandable that, at the very least, you would want to hear Palestinians denounce what happened on October 7th. To hear them say — this is not what we believe in. Just the smallest gesture to indicate a future peace is possible.
Importantly, the actual question posed isn’t included so we don’t know what was asked to trigger this response. Still, it’s a short pdf with pictures; take the 2 minutes.
I’m surprised people find this surprising…
If you support Hamas, you’re not an innocent civilian.
I was more surprised to see only 17% in favour of a two state solution and 75% in favour of a sole Palestinian state.
Maybe I’m just naive, but I had thought (hoped) that support for a two state solution among Palestinians would have been closer to 40%.
Not surprising.
Water still wet I see
…the IDF just killed at least 11,000 of them. The hell kind of opinion were they expecting?
The Palestinians have always been the obstacle to peace. I’m glad at least some people are starting to realize that, even if we do have a wave of profoundly stupid/evil people in the West demanding Jews be murdered without consequence.
Build a giant statue of Mohammad mooning Al-Aqsa mosque visible from all over the west bank.
Terrorists shoot rockets it instead of Israelis. Turn off Iron dome and relax for a decade.
/r/noshitsherlock
I mean when you get your homes taken away from you its not really that surprising youd be in support of harm against what’s perceived as the aggressor.
That is why people who condemns the Palestinian civilian casualties are naive. Terrorism is entrenched in their society
58% of American Muslims said the 10/7 attacks were either fully or mostly justified. Why are we shocked that Palestinian Muslims have higher numbers?
I’m not surprised. Things should have been handled very differently than they have been before and up till now
Community committed to the murder of their neighbors over the course of generations are ok with the murder of their neighbors? Big surprise.
And thats exactly why you shouldn’t feel sympathy for palestine.
My issue with this survey, as with so many others who try to draw sweeping opinion conclusions is that 668 people out of 3,000,000 is hardly significant. I think it can bring up important questions but not make serious claims about the population as a whole.
The Palestinians are among the most radicalized people on earth. This is why no Arab country will take them in, and why they mostly have to emigrate to western countries. I watched them cheer as 2K Americans died on 9/11, and watched it again with Israelis on 10/7. I only wish I could I unsee the video of the poor woman who was abducted 10/7, raped, killed and then paraded around to be spit on by average Palestinians in the streets. I have never seen Israelis cheer the death of Palestinian civilians. It’s amazing many on the left can’t see past the hatred and radicalization that is at the core of this society.
^people who have been imprisoned their whole lives and had family members killed support those who kill the jailers* anyone surprised?
Wow it’s almost like people who believe they have lived under decades of occupation, oppression, and violence will endorse any level of resistance against it. Anyone who thinks this is unique to Palestinians or this conflict needs to read a history book… any history book.
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>AWRAD “surveyed 668 Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, during the fourth week of the ongoing Gaza War. The team conducted the survey through tablet-assisted, face-to-face interviews
Russia scored a fat 40%. The UK had 3 points; the US and Irael, zero. So we’re doing something right.
I understand if people support Palestinian civilians.
But I do not understand people who support Hamas and even less, people who support Oct 7…
Makes no sense to me.
I don’t agree with them, but it’s understandable, with decades of repression, low education rate, low employment rate, tons of Hamas propaganda. Palestinians are born to hate Israel.
Pretty much the opposite of what the pro-Palistinian crowd has claimed for a month now. It has been fairly obvious Palistinians support hamas this whole time.
Not surprising when they celebrated 9/11.
Supporters of terrorist attacks really seem like the type of people that just want to live in peace in a 2 state solution. They definitely wouldn’t try to eradicate Israel at the first opportunity.
Once again, something that demonstrates just how complicated a solution to this conflict is.
I by no means like the settlements, let alone messianic Zionism. Still, among the many oversimplifications this conflict goes through in the shallow debates online is this notion that the occupation of the West Bank is just due to greed or religious reasons and that granting the West Bank to Palestinians would settle things (no pun intended).
The occupation very much has security reasons. I suspect many people don’t consider just how small a land we’re talking about, and how Israel doesn’t have even a bit of strategic depth. In the 1967 borders, its two most important cities — Jerusalem and Tel Aviv — would be nerve-rackingly close to a hostile nation. Once again, this is another fairly unique element of this conflict that many don’t really comprehend. People can’t really imagine how it would be like for a nation you have been in conflict for a century with to be within jogging distance of your biggest cities. Without the occupation, Israel’s security would be considerably lessened, with Palestinian armament no longer in its control. And this is a much bigger border than the one with the Gaza Strip.
I still believe they should eventually have their own state, but it’s not as simple as just giving them the land and evacuating the IDF and settlements. Israel is by no means a saint country (how many really are), but its security concerns are very much based on reality and history (history that precedes the settlements, and even the establishment of Israel as a country). I don’t know how to change this. It’s generations of conflict and trauma made worse by active indoctrination by Palestinian authorities to violent opposition. But for Israel to consider a two-state solution viable, it’s understandable that, at the very least, you would want to hear Palestinians denounce what happened on October 7th. To hear them say — this is not what we believe in. Just the smallest gesture to indicate a future peace is possible.
Not to hear them support it.
sick fucks
Here’s the actual survey. It’s worth reading: [https://www.awrad.org/files/server/polls/polls2023/Public%20Opinion%20Poll%20-%20Gaza%20War%202023.pdf](https://www.awrad.org/files/server/polls/polls2023/Public%20Opinion%20Poll%20-%20Gaza%20War%202023.pdf)
Two interesting points:
* 98% reported they will never forget and never forgive.
* 78% had more faith in humanity due to international solidarity.
Hate begets hate and violence begets violence. If they want to achieve peace then they all have to want it.
Doesn’t surprise me
This is why I encourage anyone who isn’t Palestinian to please, pretty please, with a cherry on top: STFU.
Legitimate resistence = attacks on military targets.
Terrorism = attacks on civilians for political purposes.
And you wonder why Egypt won’t take in any refugees.
This “article” is trash. Here’s the actual poll data: https://www.awrad.org/files/server/2-20231115123229.pdf
Importantly, the actual question posed isn’t included so we don’t know what was asked to trigger this response. Still, it’s a short pdf with pictures; take the 2 minutes.
I’m surprised people find this surprising…
If you support Hamas, you’re not an innocent civilian.
I was more surprised to see only 17% in favour of a two state solution and 75% in favour of a sole Palestinian state.
Maybe I’m just naive, but I had thought (hoped) that support for a two state solution among Palestinians would have been closer to 40%.
Not surprising.
Water still wet I see
…the IDF just killed at least 11,000 of them. The hell kind of opinion were they expecting?
The Palestinians have always been the obstacle to peace. I’m glad at least some people are starting to realize that, even if we do have a wave of profoundly stupid/evil people in the West demanding Jews be murdered without consequence.
Build a giant statue of Mohammad mooning Al-Aqsa mosque visible from all over the west bank.
Terrorists shoot rockets it instead of Israelis. Turn off Iron dome and relax for a decade.
/r/noshitsherlock
I mean when you get your homes taken away from you its not really that surprising youd be in support of harm against what’s perceived as the aggressor.
That is why people who condemns the Palestinian civilian casualties are naive. Terrorism is entrenched in their society
58% of American Muslims said the 10/7 attacks were either fully or mostly justified. Why are we shocked that Palestinian Muslims have higher numbers?
I’m not surprised. Things should have been handled very differently than they have been before and up till now
Community committed to the murder of their neighbors over the course of generations are ok with the murder of their neighbors? Big surprise.
And thats exactly why you shouldn’t feel sympathy for palestine.
My issue with this survey, as with so many others who try to draw sweeping opinion conclusions is that 668 people out of 3,000,000 is hardly significant. I think it can bring up important questions but not make serious claims about the population as a whole.
The Palestinians are among the most radicalized people on earth. This is why no Arab country will take them in, and why they mostly have to emigrate to western countries. I watched them cheer as 2K Americans died on 9/11, and watched it again with Israelis on 10/7. I only wish I could I unsee the video of the poor woman who was abducted 10/7, raped, killed and then paraded around to be spit on by average Palestinians in the streets. I have never seen Israelis cheer the death of Palestinian civilians. It’s amazing many on the left can’t see past the hatred and radicalization that is at the core of this society.
^people who have been imprisoned their whole lives and had family members killed support those who kill the jailers* anyone surprised?
Wow it’s almost like people who believe they have lived under decades of occupation, oppression, and violence will endorse any level of resistance against it. Anyone who thinks this is unique to Palestinians or this conflict needs to read a history book… any history book.