>She continues: “The people most responsible for the climate crisis – mainly white, privileged men – are also the ones who have been given a leading role in getting us out of it.
euronews publishing this nonsense has got to be some kind of new low, even for them
And most people will believe without question that the problem are average white dudes. Stupidity like this is so mainstream that it’s sometimes almost painful to watch. Definitely glad to have left Europe. It’s never going to get any less stupid.
Euronews is becoming huffpost now. Great /s
Americans and Europeans be like “look how much pollution china is creating!!”.
Well, what did you expect? They make all the shit you use, in their factories. EU and US effectively outsourced their pollution. If EU were to make everything they use in EU, there would be a giant smog cloud over EU.
It’s time we measure polluters by consumption. The iPhone you purchased created a bunch of pollution to be made, but that pollution happened in China, not where you live. That doesn’t mean you buying a new phone every 2 years is not causing pollution.
Clickbait title.
The research shows they cause AS MUCH pollution.
Saying they cause more pollution is like saying they cause less pollution : it’s at the very least misleading, otherwise a plain lie.
This is no news. I hope it was no surprise to anyone that the ones that have more means consume more which obviously leads to more pollution. It only serves some sorry leftist propaganda.
I suppose if you can afford more travel by plane and more CO2 emissions come from them than regular vehicles, and because poorer people would resort more to public transport you get two different ways the rich could cause more pollution. The rich are known to play a lot of golf as a hobby and building golf courses isn’t friendly to the environment either.
You just have to laugh with ALL this bullshit world we’re sharing
Isn’t this that study that says emissions are linked to what you invest in and not only what an individual personally consume?
Because if that’s it, it’s a bullshit metrics IMO.
Richest are also keeping the lovely social benefits for the poor alive.
Misspelled top 1% over the rest of the 99%
And as a punishment, everyone has to drive electic, no matter the fact those 10%, can buy an el. Car with no problem yet the rest of us cant even buy a used one
So do we kill the top 10% and prevent the poorest 50% from ever rising from their misery, or…?
Articles like these don’t really benefit anyone. Okay, the most prosperous EU-citizens pollute more than a larger segment of the population that has more or less nothing. So what? If this is the thing that matters, make rich poorer and make sure to keep the poor as poor as possible.
I feel like these lack the scale completely. More wealthy pollute more per capita than poor people, but generally in this world there are 1 billion “wealthy” and 7 billion “poor” individuals. Making the wealthy portion pollute less is actually not going to solve the issue, because we have seven times that population trying to rise their standard of living and guess what, pollute more.
Greta Thunberg slams the greed of rich people…….
Seriously? she is still roaming free?
well she does on the private jets of those white privileged men and their companies.
Here’s the issue i have with the report.
Reading the report directly from [Oxfam](https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/richest-1-emit-much-planet-heating-pollution-two-thirds-humanity) we can find the following line:
“The report shows the stark gap between the carbon footprints of the super-rich —whose carbon-hungry lifestyles and investments in polluting industries like fossil fuels are driving global warming— and the bulk of people across the world. ”
This means they count the investments into fossil fuels as “driving” and attribute those values to the rich. So this report is not as black and white as “rich people use more resources in comparison to poor people”, while the fact that a rich person probably does not have to change their lifestyle in a world of increasing costs while a poor person does, someone making money of oil is not burning that same oil…
I agree with most of the report but I’m annoyed by the “oh yeah, we added the incurred costs of oil on anyone that invests in oil” which is disingenuous
I will be downvoted again on this because this is a sub for europeans but here it goes:
There was a post here in r/Europe about the EU trying to punish a South East Asian because “their destroying he environment”, and when I countered point that the EU has no right to dictate how other country’s govern their own land because you yourself have BURNED SO MUCH FOSSIL FUELS these past decades that the damage done today was caused by you and that preventing other poorer countries to get ahead BY HOW YOU DID is just so unfair for them, I got downvoted to hell.
You europeans are hypocrites about this climate initiative. You’re all benefiting from cheaper goods from poorer countries, and you benefited and is continually reaping the rewards of your past decadence.
Just accept the fact that OTHER COUNTRIES will do what they need to do. And if you want to decrease your pollution, go ahead, no one’s preventing you, but don’t ever dictate how other’s should live their lives. Your empire days ARE OVER. You have no power over anyone else, and if we are going to be perfectly honest, you have very little power now in the world stage.
Fix your Russian problems first, because if you can’t then that will be your downfall.
Well guess what they also pay more taxes and with that taxes more social security for the poorer 50%
Its so stupid to compare in the same region
Banning normal Europeans to fly to their annual one week holidays to Spain while the rich take private jet trips daily to pick up groceries and to sightsee from the plane
Ever heard of the 20/80 rule? Lmao
Quite the opposite from America where our least financially capable will drive around in full size picks ups to and from their trailer.
No shit
And the lower 90% by buying every unnecessary crap they will throw out in a year, or ordering them from Amazon/Shein etc. so it has an even larger footprint after shipping from the other wide of the globe
Google Oxfam salaries.
NGOs have some unbelievably good benefits, too. The folks who do actual work aren’t paid so well, but the ‘message’ pushers are rolling in it.
Don’t forget bonuses, expenses and perks like free travel:
So if you want a takeaway from the new Oxfam report it is: Since their 2020 report where the richest 1% emitted 15% of what they should, they now emit 16% of what they should. The poorer 90% have reduced their carbon emissions and do so continously, but the richest 10% just increase it and increase it while feeling nothing of the negative results.
Well yeah, me and my rusty bike can’t compete with that guy, his jet, and his twenty cars. In other news, bigger things cost more materials and energy to build.
…I’m not defending them, I’m just saying we know that since a while.
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>She continues: “The people most responsible for the climate crisis – mainly white, privileged men – are also the ones who have been given a leading role in getting us out of it.
euronews publishing this nonsense has got to be some kind of new low, even for them
And most people will believe without question that the problem are average white dudes. Stupidity like this is so mainstream that it’s sometimes almost painful to watch. Definitely glad to have left Europe. It’s never going to get any less stupid.
Euronews is becoming huffpost now. Great /s
Americans and Europeans be like “look how much pollution china is creating!!”.
Well, what did you expect? They make all the shit you use, in their factories. EU and US effectively outsourced their pollution. If EU were to make everything they use in EU, there would be a giant smog cloud over EU.
It’s time we measure polluters by consumption. The iPhone you purchased created a bunch of pollution to be made, but that pollution happened in China, not where you live. That doesn’t mean you buying a new phone every 2 years is not causing pollution.
Clickbait title.
The research shows they cause AS MUCH pollution.
Saying they cause more pollution is like saying they cause less pollution : it’s at the very least misleading, otherwise a plain lie.
This is no news. I hope it was no surprise to anyone that the ones that have more means consume more which obviously leads to more pollution. It only serves some sorry leftist propaganda.
I suppose if you can afford more travel by plane and more CO2 emissions come from them than regular vehicles, and because poorer people would resort more to public transport you get two different ways the rich could cause more pollution. The rich are known to play a lot of golf as a hobby and building golf courses isn’t friendly to the environment either.
You just have to laugh with ALL this bullshit world we’re sharing
Isn’t this that study that says emissions are linked to what you invest in and not only what an individual personally consume?
Because if that’s it, it’s a bullshit metrics IMO.
Richest are also keeping the lovely social benefits for the poor alive.
Misspelled top 1% over the rest of the 99%
And as a punishment, everyone has to drive electic, no matter the fact those 10%, can buy an el. Car with no problem yet the rest of us cant even buy a used one
So do we kill the top 10% and prevent the poorest 50% from ever rising from their misery, or…?
Articles like these don’t really benefit anyone. Okay, the most prosperous EU-citizens pollute more than a larger segment of the population that has more or less nothing. So what? If this is the thing that matters, make rich poorer and make sure to keep the poor as poor as possible.
I feel like these lack the scale completely. More wealthy pollute more per capita than poor people, but generally in this world there are 1 billion “wealthy” and 7 billion “poor” individuals. Making the wealthy portion pollute less is actually not going to solve the issue, because we have seven times that population trying to rise their standard of living and guess what, pollute more.
Greta Thunberg slams the greed of rich people…….
Seriously? she is still roaming free?
well she does on the private jets of those white privileged men and their companies.
Here’s the issue i have with the report.
Reading the report directly from [Oxfam](https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/richest-1-emit-much-planet-heating-pollution-two-thirds-humanity) we can find the following line:
“The report shows the stark gap between the carbon footprints of the super-rich —whose carbon-hungry lifestyles and investments in polluting industries like fossil fuels are driving global warming— and the bulk of people across the world. ”
This means they count the investments into fossil fuels as “driving” and attribute those values to the rich. So this report is not as black and white as “rich people use more resources in comparison to poor people”, while the fact that a rich person probably does not have to change their lifestyle in a world of increasing costs while a poor person does, someone making money of oil is not burning that same oil…
I agree with most of the report but I’m annoyed by the “oh yeah, we added the incurred costs of oil on anyone that invests in oil” which is disingenuous
I will be downvoted again on this because this is a sub for europeans but here it goes:
There was a post here in r/Europe about the EU trying to punish a South East Asian because “their destroying he environment”, and when I countered point that the EU has no right to dictate how other country’s govern their own land because you yourself have BURNED SO MUCH FOSSIL FUELS these past decades that the damage done today was caused by you and that preventing other poorer countries to get ahead BY HOW YOU DID is just so unfair for them, I got downvoted to hell.
You europeans are hypocrites about this climate initiative. You’re all benefiting from cheaper goods from poorer countries, and you benefited and is continually reaping the rewards of your past decadence.
Just accept the fact that OTHER COUNTRIES will do what they need to do. And if you want to decrease your pollution, go ahead, no one’s preventing you, but don’t ever dictate how other’s should live their lives. Your empire days ARE OVER. You have no power over anyone else, and if we are going to be perfectly honest, you have very little power now in the world stage.
Fix your Russian problems first, because if you can’t then that will be your downfall.
Well guess what they also pay more taxes and with that taxes more social security for the poorer 50%
Its so stupid to compare in the same region
Banning normal Europeans to fly to their annual one week holidays to Spain while the rich take private jet trips daily to pick up groceries and to sightsee from the plane
Ever heard of the 20/80 rule? Lmao
Quite the opposite from America where our least financially capable will drive around in full size picks ups to and from their trailer.
No shit
And the lower 90% by buying every unnecessary crap they will throw out in a year, or ordering them from Amazon/Shein etc. so it has an even larger footprint after shipping from the other wide of the globe
Google Oxfam salaries.
NGOs have some unbelievably good benefits, too. The folks who do actual work aren’t paid so well, but the ‘message’ pushers are rolling in it.
Don’t forget bonuses, expenses and perks like free travel:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEO_compensation_among_charities_in_the_United_Kingdom
This is the way.
/S /S /S
To add; [https://wid.world/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/CBV2023-ClimateInequalityReport-3.pdf](https://wid.world/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/CBV2023-ClimateInequalityReport-3.pdf) from january this year which found the very same results and Oxfam 2020 report [https://oxfamilibrary.openrepository.com/bitstream/handle/10546/621052/mb-confronting-carbon-inequality-210920-en.pdf](https://oxfamilibrary.openrepository.com/bitstream/handle/10546/621052/mb-confronting-carbon-inequality-210920-en.pdf)
So if you want a takeaway from the new Oxfam report it is: Since their 2020 report where the richest 1% emitted 15% of what they should, they now emit 16% of what they should. The poorer 90% have reduced their carbon emissions and do so continously, but the richest 10% just increase it and increase it while feeling nothing of the negative results.
Well yeah, me and my rusty bike can’t compete with that guy, his jet, and his twenty cars. In other news, bigger things cost more materials and energy to build.
…I’m not defending them, I’m just saying we know that since a while.