> Conspiracy theorists pointed to one clip they say proved federal agents were present at the riot. They have argued a video shows one rioter, Kevin Lyons, wearing one of Trump’s signature “Make America Great Again” hats, while flashing an official government identification badge at a camera.
> Skeptics, however, pointed out that Lyons was actually holding a vape—not a government ID—pouring cold water on the theory. Several high-profile conservatives pushed the theory, but were forced to backtrack amid criticism.
Whomp whomp.
But…but…ghost busses don’t show up on video!
/s
Delicious. I bet Lee is dumb enough to follow through on asking Wray about it. If he doesn’t, I hope Wray brings it up the next time he testifies.
“Reality has a liberal bias.”
Chances Trump will claim at his next rally that there were federal agent agitators on Jan 6: 100000000000000000000000%
When presented with the facts of the case, MAGA conspiracy theorists doubled down on the lie. These people are completely lost.
Yeah, we all watched it live.
It doesn’t matter
Tucker Calrson has had access to January 6th footage for nearly a year. Why hasn’t he been showing the world, through these videos, that there was never a riot and that any trouble was caused by undercover FBI agents? Unless…..those claims are all bullshit…..
Oh no it won’t.
That shit is gonna be edited by right wing media pundits.
People will be too lazy to actually look at the source material.
I bet Mike Lee will apologize. /s
It is absolutely fucking insane to me that any media outlet would even entertain the idea of this being up for debate for a millisecond. It happened. We all said it was going to happen, we watched them plan it, and then we watched it happen. It is fact. Period.
To even make an article addressing January 6th conspiracy is embarrassing. We all saw it happen live…
Johnson is not releasing them thinking it will prove the conspiracies. He is trying to pollute the jury pool, so Trump can win an appeal.
We know there were off-duty cops involved in Jan. 6 so what would this even prove? Of course there would be a few people there with a badge in their pocket.
I’m sure there will be more conspiracy theories to replace it …using the footage.
Woopsie. Kevin McCarthy crawled so Mike Johnson could tear his ACL
Oh, what a surprise.
Nobody except those involved in the conspiracy believed there were FBI agents involved.
This feels like the actions of someone who wants to shut down conspiracies, not encourage them. I almost wonder if Johnson’s entire political career has been a long-con.
The Dunning-Kruger party.
I’ll never forget when it happened I stopped working (couldn’t focus) and took to a bottle of whiskey…
First time I was ever day drunk
If anyone at all thinks footage and facts matters one iota to these orange ball sucking idiots I have a bridge to sell you.
Of course it does. Are conservative that stupid that they think the left tried to overthrow the government for an election they won?
I mean, if the Feds’ really planned January 6, how does it fit into the plan that Trump and his cronies met with the rioters that morning, told them the election was stolen and they needed to fight, and sent them to the Capitol? Were they like “C’mon we’re about to instigate an attack on the…wait…nevermind, it’s happening without us.”
Not really. These are the same people who claim “false flag” every time a school is shot up and kids are slaughtered. They’ll claim the footage is doctored.
Some people can’t be saved from their misery.
No evidence in the world will change anything these people believe. The idea that conspiracy theorists would be swayed by any of this is ludicrous. Especially when dealing with so many that have their beliefs so entrenched in a cult-mentality.
“Reality deals blow to conspiracy theory” pretty much sums up the whole GOP but people keep electing them. I don’t get it.
Nothing will EVER deal a blow to conspiracy theorists. It is impossible to convince them, and also they immunize themselves from all kinds of critique and counter-arguments. This is just how it is. We are not in the same domain of discourse with them.
As soon as we engage with them we have already lost, because they need attention and coverage.
The only things that work with them are ignoring, ridiculing, and convicting them, if they break the law like Alex Jones.
The problem with the current state of US politics is that they have been handled wrongly for decades already, so that they achieved political power, even the highest office. This is really dangerous, and in this situation you can’t ignore everything they are saying anymore (although still quite a lot of it, which is not being done properly, because it makes media money to carpet ride on the likes of Trump and Co). But you still can and should ridicule them.
The last thing though we should do is trying to engage in discourse with them. We can’t look good in this game where the other side is lying all the time.
“It’s kinda rectangular and super blurry. Obviously an FBI badge!!!”
Let’s be honest here, MAGA supporters will still believe whatever they want
You mean to tell me a (any) MAGA conspiracy theory gets debunked in less than 3 seconds of actual “research” by anyone with a shred of intelligence, or eyes? Well tickle me pink in utter shock!
I just want to say I kinda like the fairness meeter on the Newsweek site. And the results tbh.
Don’t worry, conspiracists! There are still plenty of subreddits where you can ignore reality.
Omfg even if they did have a badge:
1) Trump was in charge of the executive branch.
2) Trump publicly called for his raving lunatic base to raid the capital.
3) there are still many in the executive branch that support the big lie and the big liar.
This failed violent coup was on live Tv for all of us to see.
Their argument was that there was an undercover federal agent *flashing his ID to the cameras—*
An undercover agent, flashing his credentials identifying himself as an undercover agent. You know, like they’re trained to do in the Big Federal Book of Hiding the Fact that You’re a Federal Agent.
I’m sure he was also wearing a tshirt that said I’M AN UNDERCOVER AGENT AND THIS IS A FALSE FLAG OPERATION. IGNORE ME!!
What a fucking embarrassment that people who think that way have power.
Cult45’s diarrhea of the brain auto-rejects reality, evidence and common sense because all lack Trump’s seal of stupefyingly dishonest approval.
If Trump dropped his pants and took a dump on Mar-a-Lago’s front lawn—and was captured on footage recorded by security cameras, multiple drones, the Goodyear blimp and a gaggle of close-range spy satellites— Cult45 would declare it “fake defecation!! GO TRUMP!!”
There is nothing that will stop them from showing the video of the bank robber calmly walking in and calmly walking out declaring they did not rob a bank….all the while completely ignoring the video of the bank robber pointing a gun and demanding money.
Vape not badge and no one caught that before running with this insane “theory”? Lol of course not from the do your own research idiots
We can’t forget the initial conspiracy that there were antifa members involved in starting the assault on the capitol oh let’s not forget how Congressman Johnson (R)claimed he wasn’t afraid of trump rioters but he would have been afraid if it were black lives matter protesters. Why??
Even though there is not been any real violence associated with black lives matter protesting outside the capital or the White House these clowns do anything they can to divert attention away from the fact that they’re trying to take our country back to the stone ages and they have zero problem with lying to support the lyingist.
president ever the most divisive president ever.
Trump claims he’s the law and order president. However, he openly disrespects law and order and spits on our country every chance he gets, and millions cheer him on.
Facts don’t deal blows to conspiracy theories.
That’s the thing with conspiracy theorists, they’re too dumb to give a shit about facts and evidence.
Trump supporters: “la la la la I can’t hear you I’m not watching any ‘footage’ fake news fake news la la la la”
Are the nutcases actually thinking that the world will forget all that we saw and experienced if they edit it?
Previously available evidence deals blow to newly-made lie.
As if an undercover officer would just casually go around flashing their badge. These people are so stupid it gives me a headache.
They insist, despite the total absence of any evidence, that the election was stolen from Trump, that the rioters were patriots, that the election shouldn’t have been certified, and that they were right to do what they did. They said they were gonna do it, they did it, and then they said they were right to do it…
…AND they were tricked into it because there was a federal agent there? Could these people make any less sense?
Came across the mouth breathers today in the daily wire posting this (no idea why it came up) and them being like I knew I was right…. One of the comments said zoom in, so I did and its the most obvious vape Ive ever seen. Fucking jackasses lol.
The republicans thought releasing the footage and questioning the FBI director about ghost buses would help their case instead of prove that their morons who can’t discern fact from conspiracy
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> Conspiracy theorists pointed to one clip they say proved federal agents were present at the riot. They have argued a video shows one rioter, Kevin Lyons, wearing one of Trump’s signature “Make America Great Again” hats, while flashing an official government identification badge at a camera.
> Skeptics, however, pointed out that Lyons was actually holding a vape—not a government ID—pouring cold water on the theory. Several high-profile conservatives pushed the theory, but were forced to backtrack amid criticism.
Whomp whomp.
But…but…ghost busses don’t show up on video!
/s
Delicious. I bet Lee is dumb enough to follow through on asking Wray about it. If he doesn’t, I hope Wray brings it up the next time he testifies.
“Reality has a liberal bias.”
Chances Trump will claim at his next rally that there were federal agent agitators on Jan 6: 100000000000000000000000%
When presented with the facts of the case, MAGA conspiracy theorists doubled down on the lie. These people are completely lost.
Yeah, we all watched it live.
It doesn’t matter
Tucker Calrson has had access to January 6th footage for nearly a year. Why hasn’t he been showing the world, through these videos, that there was never a riot and that any trouble was caused by undercover FBI agents? Unless…..those claims are all bullshit…..
Oh no it won’t.
That shit is gonna be edited by right wing media pundits.
People will be too lazy to actually look at the source material.
I bet Mike Lee will apologize. /s
It is absolutely fucking insane to me that any media outlet would even entertain the idea of this being up for debate for a millisecond. It happened. We all said it was going to happen, we watched them plan it, and then we watched it happen. It is fact. Period.
To even make an article addressing January 6th conspiracy is embarrassing. We all saw it happen live…
Johnson is not releasing them thinking it will prove the conspiracies. He is trying to pollute the jury pool, so Trump can win an appeal.
We know there were off-duty cops involved in Jan. 6 so what would this even prove? Of course there would be a few people there with a badge in their pocket.
I’m sure there will be more conspiracy theories to replace it …using the footage.
Woopsie. Kevin McCarthy crawled so Mike Johnson could tear his ACL
Oh, what a surprise.
Nobody except those involved in the conspiracy believed there were FBI agents involved.
This feels like the actions of someone who wants to shut down conspiracies, not encourage them. I almost wonder if Johnson’s entire political career has been a long-con.
The Dunning-Kruger party.
I’ll never forget when it happened I stopped working (couldn’t focus) and took to a bottle of whiskey…
First time I was ever day drunk
If anyone at all thinks footage and facts matters one iota to these orange ball sucking idiots I have a bridge to sell you.
Of course it does. Are conservative that stupid that they think the left tried to overthrow the government for an election they won?
I mean, if the Feds’ really planned January 6, how does it fit into the plan that Trump and his cronies met with the rioters that morning, told them the election was stolen and they needed to fight, and sent them to the Capitol? Were they like “C’mon we’re about to instigate an attack on the…wait…nevermind, it’s happening without us.”
Not really. These are the same people who claim “false flag” every time a school is shot up and kids are slaughtered. They’ll claim the footage is doctored.
Some people can’t be saved from their misery.
No evidence in the world will change anything these people believe. The idea that conspiracy theorists would be swayed by any of this is ludicrous. Especially when dealing with so many that have their beliefs so entrenched in a cult-mentality.
“Reality deals blow to conspiracy theory” pretty much sums up the whole GOP but people keep electing them. I don’t get it.
Nothing will EVER deal a blow to conspiracy theorists. It is impossible to convince them, and also they immunize themselves from all kinds of critique and counter-arguments. This is just how it is. We are not in the same domain of discourse with them.
As soon as we engage with them we have already lost, because they need attention and coverage.
The only things that work with them are ignoring, ridiculing, and convicting them, if they break the law like Alex Jones.
The problem with the current state of US politics is that they have been handled wrongly for decades already, so that they achieved political power, even the highest office. This is really dangerous, and in this situation you can’t ignore everything they are saying anymore (although still quite a lot of it, which is not being done properly, because it makes media money to carpet ride on the likes of Trump and Co). But you still can and should ridicule them.
The last thing though we should do is trying to engage in discourse with them. We can’t look good in this game where the other side is lying all the time.
“It’s kinda rectangular and super blurry. Obviously an FBI badge!!!”
Let’s be honest here, MAGA supporters will still believe whatever they want
You mean to tell me a (any) MAGA conspiracy theory gets debunked in less than 3 seconds of actual “research” by anyone with a shred of intelligence, or eyes? Well tickle me pink in utter shock!
I just want to say I kinda like the fairness meeter on the Newsweek site. And the results tbh.
Don’t worry, conspiracists! There are still plenty of subreddits where you can ignore reality.
Omfg even if they did have a badge:
1) Trump was in charge of the executive branch.
2) Trump publicly called for his raving lunatic base to raid the capital.
3) there are still many in the executive branch that support the big lie and the big liar.
This failed violent coup was on live Tv for all of us to see.
Their argument was that there was an undercover federal agent *flashing his ID to the cameras—*
An undercover agent, flashing his credentials identifying himself as an undercover agent. You know, like they’re trained to do in the Big Federal Book of Hiding the Fact that You’re a Federal Agent.
I’m sure he was also wearing a tshirt that said I’M AN UNDERCOVER AGENT AND THIS IS A FALSE FLAG OPERATION. IGNORE ME!!
What a fucking embarrassment that people who think that way have power.
Cult45’s diarrhea of the brain auto-rejects reality, evidence and common sense because all lack Trump’s seal of stupefyingly dishonest approval.
If Trump dropped his pants and took a dump on Mar-a-Lago’s front lawn—and was captured on footage recorded by security cameras, multiple drones, the Goodyear blimp and a gaggle of close-range spy satellites— Cult45 would declare it “fake defecation!! GO TRUMP!!”
There is nothing that will stop them from showing the video of the bank robber calmly walking in and calmly walking out declaring they did not rob a bank….all the while completely ignoring the video of the bank robber pointing a gun and demanding money.
Vape not badge and no one caught that before running with this insane “theory”? Lol of course not from the do your own research idiots
We can’t forget the initial conspiracy that there were antifa members involved in starting the assault on the capitol oh let’s not forget how Congressman Johnson (R)claimed he wasn’t afraid of trump rioters but he would have been afraid if it were black lives matter protesters. Why??
Even though there is not been any real violence associated with black lives matter protesting outside the capital or the White House these clowns do anything they can to divert attention away from the fact that they’re trying to take our country back to the stone ages and they have zero problem with lying to support the lyingist.
president ever the most divisive president ever.
Trump claims he’s the law and order president. However, he openly disrespects law and order and spits on our country every chance he gets, and millions cheer him on.
Facts don’t deal blows to conspiracy theories.
That’s the thing with conspiracy theorists, they’re too dumb to give a shit about facts and evidence.
Trump supporters: “la la la la I can’t hear you I’m not watching any ‘footage’ fake news fake news la la la la”
Are the nutcases actually thinking that the world will forget all that we saw and experienced if they edit it?
Previously available evidence deals blow to newly-made lie.
As if an undercover officer would just casually go around flashing their badge. These people are so stupid it gives me a headache.
They insist, despite the total absence of any evidence, that the election was stolen from Trump, that the rioters were patriots, that the election shouldn’t have been certified, and that they were right to do what they did. They said they were gonna do it, they did it, and then they said they were right to do it…
…AND they were tricked into it because there was a federal agent there? Could these people make any less sense?
Came across the mouth breathers today in the daily wire posting this (no idea why it came up) and them being like I knew I was right…. One of the comments said zoom in, so I did and its the most obvious vape Ive ever seen. Fucking jackasses lol.
The republicans thought releasing the footage and questioning the FBI director about ghost buses would help their case instead of prove that their morons who can’t discern fact from conspiracy