This will happen in more countries, people are tired.
It’s funny how people keep saying this is because of immigration when PVV only surged in the polls after their leader said he would start making compromises on migration, islam, etc.
Who would’ve thought that mass unchecked immigration and their farmland being forcibly purchased would lead to the rise of the far-right?
Will that mean wilders prime minister or timmermans prime minister
Even with the widest possible (reasonable) exit poll margins, the outcome of PVV being the biggest remains unchanged.
The second-largest party is likely GL-PvdA, a combination of two center-left parties.
The VVD comes in third place, a liberal party and the largest from the last elections (who delivered a Prime Minister for the last 13 years).
And in fourth place is the NSC, a new party that was created as the result of a Christian Democratic (center-right) party member leaving and beginning his own.
**Edit:** Because many have asked, I’ve tried to list the main points from Geert Wilders’ party program. Please note I tried to stay true to how he worded things in Dutch, these are not my personal opinions.
**Immigration & Anti-Islam:**
* Implement an asylum stop plus restrictive immigration policies
* Restore border security controls; detain & deport illegals
* Revoke residency for criminal migrants & refugee status if traveling back to home countries
* The Netherlands is not an Islamic country – fewer Islamic schools, Korans, mosques
* Limit labor & student migration, including from the EU
* Diplomatic downgrading with Sharia law countries
**Other Key Points:**
* Lower taxes on basic needs – energy, fuel, food, housing rents to increase purchasing power
* Tough law & order approach – more police funding, minimum sentences, preventative detention
* Prioritize Dutch citizens access to social housing
* Halt wasteful climate spending (renewable energy, environmental regulations) but continue flood protection
* Subsidy, regulation cuts for farmers/fishers
* Restore national sovereignty from the EU
* Slash foreign aid spending
* Referendum on EU membership
**Voter motivation:**
* From exit poll questionnaires the largest group of voters said they voted based on a single issue, that being migration.
Watch out Belgium! We can finally beat your record in length of government formation.
FPÖ in austria is next.
In Germany the AfD is at 21-23%, closing up to the Union.
Its happening everywhere. The people are fed up.
Quite frankly I don’t think your country has enough political parties.
We are probably facing the longest coalition building in Dutch history.
And now, we wait… I’m curious to see if Wilders can make good on his promises and compromise somewhat with VVD and NSC, the two most obvious parties to form a coalition with.
What is this thing with ” the people are fed up”. Have you ever lived through fucking poverty? Is your country riddled with crime? Or is the perception that media feeds you that it is? Do we have fucking problems with problematic ethnic or immigrant neighborhoods? Guess what, we used to have them but with poor or outcasted people. I feel that the world is going crazy
The Dutch sure do love their elections.
Oh boy. Now I know how Americans felt when Trump got elected. I am honestly absolutely stunned and just embarrassed for my country. Despite his momentum I never expected him to win, especially with this margin.
I really hope he won’t be able to form a coalition so we either get new elections or a GL/PvdA led coalition.
Writings on the wall.. start listening to the citizens or more extreme parties will come to power in Europe
TLDR for outsiders?
Denk lost one seat. This does put a smile on my face.
I find it funny how the topic of immigration fell from the sky to the European right. What’s even funnier is that they don’t have a solution either, they are only aware that the problem exists. Just that. The left, on the other hand, pretends the problem doesn’t exist and loses elections miserably.
His party almost disintegrated before.
Let’s see how he holds up forming a government.
I’ll bet he won’t last past 18months.
This is existential to the EU. Not because of the Netherlands directly, but because France and Germany show similar trends.
We’ve created a scenario where anti immigration policies are always tied to anti-EU sentiment. That doesn’t have to be the case. We need to fundamentally reform migration at the EU level, blow up every law related to asylum if we have to.
As I have said over and over again in the past – if centrist parties in the EU will not do anything about immigration and Islamism in particular, voters will shift their voting preferences to those parties who will address their concerns.
Looks like the extreme right is at about ~20% in most European countries (Netherlands, Germany, Romania, Sweden, Finalnd all around that mark), and how much influence they have depends on the political system and the reaction of the other parties.
Nothing unexpected. Europe has a lot of problems which leftist/green parties didn’t even acknowledge. Europe is too soft, Europeans will shift more to the right in future.
After Argentina, it’s the Netherlands turn to ask: “Maybe this right-wing crackpot will fix everything.”
Looking at this, a right wing coalition of pvv, vvd en nsc doesnt seem to far off, although many will have to compromise
What are the likely coalitions? Are there even any other parties willing to go into coalition with the PVV?
Why do these people always seem to have funny hair?
And the Germans will keep saying “the polls do not show reality” for AfD. I mean I am an expat myself but even I am tired of immigrants, fake asylum seekers. They just sit down and eat the the 1/3 the Germany without a single contribution. 6-7 kids. And be done for 18 years.
They create their own ghettos, never adapt to the society. They bare no skills. They work mostly at minimum wage jobs. After 50 years they can’t even speak the language properly. They create most of the crime population. They try to bend the rules whenever it is possible. Taxes, Schwarzarbeit… They are like parasites. How could no one see this till recent developments is blowing my mind.
How could it possibly be a good idea to accept people from 3rd, 4th world countries ? Like what was the plan ? Like what was the role of Germany in Syrian war to suffer heavily from migration through Syria… or Afghanistan… or Iraq… or Iran ? Send them to f*ckn America if its a must to blame an actor. Why Germany ? Why Netherlands ?
I can’t deal with living in another country with a looming threat of an EU referendum. I left the UK because of Brexit, surely the Dutch aren’t keen for this?
The EU is falling apart due to immigration, these two don’t necessarily HAVE to be linked, but they are right now.
For 8 years some of the Dutch redditors have been writing here, that it was a mistake to let Poland into the EU because we have a far right government. Now PiS lost the elections while Wilders won. How the turn tables.
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This will happen in more countries, people are tired.
It’s funny how people keep saying this is because of immigration when PVV only surged in the polls after their leader said he would start making compromises on migration, islam, etc.
Who would’ve thought that mass unchecked immigration and their farmland being forcibly purchased would lead to the rise of the far-right?
Will that mean wilders prime minister or timmermans prime minister
Even with the widest possible (reasonable) exit poll margins, the outcome of PVV being the biggest remains unchanged.
The second-largest party is likely GL-PvdA, a combination of two center-left parties.
The VVD comes in third place, a liberal party and the largest from the last elections (who delivered a Prime Minister for the last 13 years).
And in fourth place is the NSC, a new party that was created as the result of a Christian Democratic (center-right) party member leaving and beginning his own.
**Edit:** Because many have asked, I’ve tried to list the main points from Geert Wilders’ party program. Please note I tried to stay true to how he worded things in Dutch, these are not my personal opinions.
**Immigration & Anti-Islam:**
* Implement an asylum stop plus restrictive immigration policies
* Restore border security controls; detain & deport illegals
* Revoke residency for criminal migrants & refugee status if traveling back to home countries
* The Netherlands is not an Islamic country – fewer Islamic schools, Korans, mosques
* Limit labor & student migration, including from the EU
* Diplomatic downgrading with Sharia law countries
**Other Key Points:**
* Lower taxes on basic needs – energy, fuel, food, housing rents to increase purchasing power
* Tough law & order approach – more police funding, minimum sentences, preventative detention
* Prioritize Dutch citizens access to social housing
* Halt wasteful climate spending (renewable energy, environmental regulations) but continue flood protection
* Subsidy, regulation cuts for farmers/fishers
* Restore national sovereignty from the EU
* Slash foreign aid spending
* Referendum on EU membership
**Voter motivation:**
* From exit poll questionnaires the largest group of voters said they voted based on a single issue, that being migration.
Watch out Belgium! We can finally beat your record in length of government formation.
FPÖ in austria is next.
In Germany the AfD is at 21-23%, closing up to the Union.
Its happening everywhere. The people are fed up.
Quite frankly I don’t think your country has enough political parties.
We are probably facing the longest coalition building in Dutch history.
And now, we wait… I’m curious to see if Wilders can make good on his promises and compromise somewhat with VVD and NSC, the two most obvious parties to form a coalition with.
What is this thing with ” the people are fed up”. Have you ever lived through fucking poverty? Is your country riddled with crime? Or is the perception that media feeds you that it is? Do we have fucking problems with problematic ethnic or immigrant neighborhoods? Guess what, we used to have them but with poor or outcasted people. I feel that the world is going crazy
The Dutch sure do love their elections.
Oh boy. Now I know how Americans felt when Trump got elected. I am honestly absolutely stunned and just embarrassed for my country. Despite his momentum I never expected him to win, especially with this margin.
I really hope he won’t be able to form a coalition so we either get new elections or a GL/PvdA led coalition.
Writings on the wall.. start listening to the citizens or more extreme parties will come to power in Europe
TLDR for outsiders?
Denk lost one seat. This does put a smile on my face.
I’m so pissed right now.
Oh, lovely, the most famous Polonophobe in power.
[Anti-polish Hotline](https://euobserver.com/news/115208)
I find it funny how the topic of immigration fell from the sky to the European right. What’s even funnier is that they don’t have a solution either, they are only aware that the problem exists. Just that. The left, on the other hand, pretends the problem doesn’t exist and loses elections miserably.
His party almost disintegrated before.
Let’s see how he holds up forming a government.
I’ll bet he won’t last past 18months.
This is existential to the EU. Not because of the Netherlands directly, but because France and Germany show similar trends.
We’ve created a scenario where anti immigration policies are always tied to anti-EU sentiment. That doesn’t have to be the case. We need to fundamentally reform migration at the EU level, blow up every law related to asylum if we have to.
As I have said over and over again in the past – if centrist parties in the EU will not do anything about immigration and Islamism in particular, voters will shift their voting preferences to those parties who will address their concerns.
Looks like the extreme right is at about ~20% in most European countries (Netherlands, Germany, Romania, Sweden, Finalnd all around that mark), and how much influence they have depends on the political system and the reaction of the other parties.
Nothing unexpected. Europe has a lot of problems which leftist/green parties didn’t even acknowledge. Europe is too soft, Europeans will shift more to the right in future.
After Argentina, it’s the Netherlands turn to ask: “Maybe this right-wing crackpot will fix everything.”
Looking at this, a right wing coalition of pvv, vvd en nsc doesnt seem to far off, although many will have to compromise
What are the likely coalitions? Are there even any other parties willing to go into coalition with the PVV?
Why do these people always seem to have funny hair?
And the Germans will keep saying “the polls do not show reality” for AfD. I mean I am an expat myself but even I am tired of immigrants, fake asylum seekers. They just sit down and eat the the 1/3 the Germany without a single contribution. 6-7 kids. And be done for 18 years.
They create their own ghettos, never adapt to the society. They bare no skills. They work mostly at minimum wage jobs. After 50 years they can’t even speak the language properly. They create most of the crime population. They try to bend the rules whenever it is possible. Taxes, Schwarzarbeit… They are like parasites. How could no one see this till recent developments is blowing my mind.
How could it possibly be a good idea to accept people from 3rd, 4th world countries ? Like what was the plan ? Like what was the role of Germany in Syrian war to suffer heavily from migration through Syria… or Afghanistan… or Iraq… or Iran ? Send them to f*ckn America if its a must to blame an actor. Why Germany ? Why Netherlands ?
I can’t deal with living in another country with a looming threat of an EU referendum. I left the UK because of Brexit, surely the Dutch aren’t keen for this?
The EU is falling apart due to immigration, these two don’t necessarily HAVE to be linked, but they are right now.
For 8 years some of the Dutch redditors have been writing here, that it was a mistake to let Poland into the EU because we have a far right government. Now PiS lost the elections while Wilders won. How the turn tables.