‘The Marvels’ Suffered From a Lack of ‘Supervision on the Set,’ Says Bob Iger; Disney CEO Admits Studio Has ‘Made Too Many’ Sequels Recently

by KillerCroc1234567

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  1. I strongly doubt the problem with this movie was a lack of corporate oversight.

  2. Did it, though?

    It looked the most corporate of corporate movies. The theme seemed to be trying to appeal to a new demographic in order to expand the audience of the MCU and hugely tie in to the D+ shows for the sake of creating synergy between company products. It has corporate executives heavily weighing in all over it.

    What it suffered from is these new demographics having checked out of superhero movies and the existing demographics weren’t particularly interested in watching season 3 of a CW show that didn’t have a season 2. Also, act one of the movie must have been left on the cutting room floor because it kind of started in the middle and that made the entire plot all over the place. That’s the type of thing which results from a number of different voices weighing in with different visions of the movie and interfering with what was being written and shot.

    The problems with this movie look to be almost entirely the result of corporate supervision.

  3. the most common criticisms this movie has are the same ones for most other MCU movies: forced humor, halfassed plot, editing by Marvel Committee, and a lame villain. This has happened time and time again and will likely continue no matter whoever they get to direct these movies. The cast and crew are always to blame but never the higher ups who oversee these projects (Fiege and Iger)

  4. it’s weird because this movie was better than the original (which made $1B)

  5. Lack of supervision…

    Also they’re behind in sequels.

    They’re going to blame a lack of them for their financial results next year.

  6. This sounds more like Bob Iger making a sarcastic “per my last email” type of reply to what Iman Vellani said about how the movie flopping is Bob Iger’s concern and not hers.

  7. There was a time when Disney was releasing a billion dollar movie almost every month. (2019)

    Just for the record only around 53 movies ever entered the billion dollar club. It’s not like earning a billion is a regular occurrence for Hollywood. But 25 of those movies are in some way tied to Disney.

    Combined the other three big studios, Sony Pictures, Universal, and Warner Bros have 22 movies, less than Disney’s total.

    Furthermore, 24 out of 25 of Disney’s billion dollar movies came out in the 2010s. Too much success in such short time can’t be sustainable. That’s where Disney’s issue comes from

    They got addicted to the easy money from Star Wars, Marvel, Pixar sequels, and Disney live action remakes that they thought they could continue that success without trying. They stopped taking risks and all their movies in the 2020s are derivative of the movies in the 2010s.

  8. Everything I’ve heard Bob Iger say the last few years has been incredibly wrong. They learn the wrong lessons from things that fail and they learn even worse lessons from things that succeed. At this point I think he must have blackmailed somebody to still be in charge.

  9. Ok I enjoyed the movie. Even though I kept thinking it’s spaceballs the movie.

  11. What would more supervision have done? Was someone going to be off-stage shouting “BE MORE LIKABLE?”

  13. Don’t they have a director? Producers?

    The script didn’t have supervision too?

    What’s Fiege doing?

  14. It’s actually a really great movie. I honestly think it’s a bad time for it. The MCU no longer has people “hooked”. The “multi part saga” nature of pre-Endgame was what kept bringing people back.

  16. For me, who has seen EVERY MCU movie except for the two Marvel movies in theaters, it was lack of interest. I read Marvel comics starting in the 70’s so maybe it is a generational thing but the Captain Marvel character, in all of its iterations was never one that attracted me. I was never into the space faring aspects of Marvel, so Silver Surfer, Capt. Marvel, Adam Warlock, etc. were never characters I cared about, except when they intersected with the more mainstream earth-bound heroes.

  17. He and Iman are just going to go at it on twitter, aren’t they.

  18. The Marvels is absolutely charming. It centers the interaction between people. It touches on the human cost of the Blip. It lets Jackson be funny, rather than the slog that Secret Wars brought us. It’s got lots of Kamala Khan which gives Carol Danvers a foil for her military stoicism. It’s got Goose. It’s a really fun movie.

  19. I’ve read between lines: “Studio has made too many crap lately”

  20. Well their base is majority male dorks. Did they cater to their base?

  22. Movie was the best marvel movie in Phase 5. Was definitely a marketing issue

  24. Disney bought Marvel IP for the same reason the bought the Star Wars IP, built in audience and fan approved content. They didn’t buy them to make art house movies. They were bought to churn out content to draw eyes and spend money on tickets and subscriptions. It wasn’t an altruistic move.

    The problem is there are too many people in the way of good stories. Marvel has 70+ years of stories, to see them put out mediocre movies is a slap in the face to all of the comic writers from the past.

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