Ukrainian soldier films his position being hit with Russian 9M22S incendiary munitions



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  1. Preemptive information:

    It is a magnesium alloy, not Phosphorous. There is no thermite and no thermate in it. There are plenty of super boring aftermath pictures showing the points this stuff lands on. You can also see that [in this video here](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/188681p/ukrainian_soldier_films_his_position_being_hit/).

    But people here constantly say this stuff is super deadly, melts through everything (= no cover), kills people like WP does, can not be put out, blablabla when in reality, the whole show is over after one minute.

    [This is what it looks like](https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/styles/embed_medium/public/multimedia_images_2016/photo_1_0.jpg?itok=YGgqmMET) when it hits steel. The steel cools it down rapidly and it stops burning. No hole, no nothing.

    [Here is a picture of ground](https://armamentresearch.com/soviet-or-russian-9m22s-incendiary-rockets-documented-in-ukraine-2022/) that was hit. No burning through (into the ground) or anything. It just sits and burns for a few more seconds, then it goes out as all magnesium is quickly burned.

    [This is what it looks like when trenches with people in it are hit](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/144ocxl/a_group_of_ukrainian_soldiers_came_under_fire/).

    [See here for specifications](https://en.missilery.info/missile/grad/m3-21) (sorry for bad translation) what it is actually made up of (not thermite!):

    >The ignition element is a shell of hexagonal section made of magnesium alloy ML-5, in a blind nest of which the pyrotechnic composition is pressed.
    >
    >[…]
    >
    >The design of the 9M22S projectile with the electronic elements ensures reliable opening of the combat unit casing by igniting the elements and their scattering.
    >
    >[…]
    >
    >During the testing process, several types of electronic elements were tested, resulting in the selection of an element representing a hexagonal prism weighing ~ 40 g.

    So “electronic elements” = “ignition element” = the actual incendiary, in this case ~40g of magnesium alloy in hexagonal shape. This is filled with “fire mixture”. The “electronic elements” (= magnesium) are ignited during release and then scattered. With “fire mixture” being a pyrotechnic mixture that is specified too:

    >According to the data, the composition of the MS-87M fire mixture was as follows:
    >
    >[table showing the components of the pyrotechnic mixture]

  2. You know it’s messed up the consumer convention says they’re not supposed to use that even that we know they’re using it do we do anything no so what a joke if we can’t enforce anything then why even said

  3. Sky jalapeños raining down on me ranks high up on my nope list

  4. Each 9N510 submunition consists of a hexagonal shell of magnesium alloy filled with a fire mixture whose main ingredients are gasoline, isopropyl nitrate and rubber… The magnesium burns briefly with a bright white light… and typically sticks to the target while burning. Attempting to scrape the mix off just spreads it, and it is not extinguished by water… exposure to vapors leads to long-term ailments of the body, up to permanent disfigurement and death through organ failure….Fuck that shit….

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