40.000 Schells for 2024 … i hope they mean the 40k for every DAY of 2024… 😉
Hurry up!
Pathetic amounts
Ukraine needs this many shells every week, or even every day on intense days.
If there is any factory in Europe/North America producing 155mm shells which is not running at peak capacity that would be pure morony.
If any such factory is not expanding capacity that would still be pure morony.
Per the last deal on 155mm shells with Rheinmetall, we had a price around $ 3k3 per unit. If calculating this out, we get approx to same number of 40,000 units again for this latest deal to be delivered in 2025.
I understand there are different type of shells and these appear to be in the higher price end. Think it was Bulgaria who had other types to down to a price around just $500 per unit.
Maybe some of you know about the real difference and if it is worthwhile a premium price, as huge difference in having e.g. 280.000 shells versus just 40,000…
yay, two more days of salvo!
they need millions, without exaggeration
At this point its all so tiresome. Democracies are weak because nobody cares about solving real problems. Its all a game. We can all point at putin and say what a savage he is for sending mobiks to die. But its paying off for him? You literally have to wait out the west and they will crumble. “As long as it takes” im sorry, what? As long as what takes? What kind of braindead messaging is that. What the fuck.
While it’s important that they get as many shells as they can, there’s a common misconception that they need parity in massed fires, but it’s important to remember that NATO artillery doctrine stresses accuracy not volume.
When people see russia expending incredible amounts of shells in short order that’s because they rely on that as a cornerstone of their doctrine (when they can coherently exercise it at least) and doesn’t automatically mean that Ukraine is at a huge disadvantage because they can’t match that.
But the problem is that Ukraine still needs *a lot* of shells to effectively wield NATO artillery doctrine, but it’s also missing a key component that the US/NATO rely on that makes the whole thing really come together – airpower.
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40.000 Schells for 2024 … i hope they mean the 40k for every DAY of 2024… 😉
Hurry up!
Pathetic amounts
Ukraine needs this many shells every week, or even every day on intense days.
If there is any factory in Europe/North America producing 155mm shells which is not running at peak capacity that would be pure morony.
If any such factory is not expanding capacity that would still be pure morony.
Per the last deal on 155mm shells with Rheinmetall, we had a price around $ 3k3 per unit. If calculating this out, we get approx to same number of 40,000 units again for this latest deal to be delivered in 2025.
I understand there are different type of shells and these appear to be in the higher price end. Think it was Bulgaria who had other types to down to a price around just $500 per unit.
Maybe some of you know about the real difference and if it is worthwhile a premium price, as huge difference in having e.g. 280.000 shells versus just 40,000…
yay, two more days of salvo!
they need millions, without exaggeration
At this point its all so tiresome. Democracies are weak because nobody cares about solving real problems. Its all a game. We can all point at putin and say what a savage he is for sending mobiks to die. But its paying off for him? You literally have to wait out the west and they will crumble. “As long as it takes” im sorry, what? As long as what takes? What kind of braindead messaging is that. What the fuck.
While it’s important that they get as many shells as they can, there’s a common misconception that they need parity in massed fires, but it’s important to remember that NATO artillery doctrine stresses accuracy not volume.
When people see russia expending incredible amounts of shells in short order that’s because they rely on that as a cornerstone of their doctrine (when they can coherently exercise it at least) and doesn’t automatically mean that Ukraine is at a huge disadvantage because they can’t match that.
But the problem is that Ukraine still needs *a lot* of shells to effectively wield NATO artillery doctrine, but it’s also missing a key component that the US/NATO rely on that makes the whole thing really come together – airpower.
Thank you!