Das israelische Militär sagt, dass das Verhältnis von zwei getöteten Zivilisten pro Militanten angesichts der Kampfherausforderungen im Gazastreifen „enorm positiv“ sei

by Kimber80

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  1. It’d be nice if Gaza hadn’t let Hamas hide amongst them. It’d be nice if Gaza had rid themselves of the Hamas infection. It’d be nice if Gaza hadn’t enabled genocidal rapist torturing terrorists like Hamas.

  2. Macabre as it sounds that kind of ratio is pretty extraordinary for collateral damage in urban combat operations.

  3. Considering:
    1) Documented hamas tunnels under hospitals
    2) Weapons found in baby rooms
    3) Healthy hostages brought to hospitals
    4) hamas *saying* they give 0 shits about their own civilians

    Yeah I’d say it’s a better ratio than the Oct 7 massacre.

  5. This reads like an ‘The Onion’ headline.

    Israel is unironically flexing civilians they’ve killed.

  6. This is a great ratio, keep in mind that there were 15 million military and 38 million civilian deaths in WW2. They have a better ratio despite the urban infrastructure challenges which make gazan civilians more susceptible to attacks than the average civilians during WW2.

  7. Don’t forget the ratio that Israelis are on track to kill at least 10 Palestinians for every Israeli killed during the Hamas attack.

  8. ALL deaths in Gaza would end very quickly if Hamas stopped firing rockets into Israel and turned themselves in to the IDF. Consequently, Hamas has full control over the civilian casualty rate there.

  9. Maybe “tremendously positive” is a wildly poor choice of words. Putting a positive spin on civilian deaths, in this current environment when the world is jumping on your throat for it, is not gonna be a good look

  10. Well yeah when your enemy uses civilians as human shields, there’s really no way to defend your own people without civilians getting killed. So unfortunately Hamas has forced Israel to choose between Israeli civilians and Palestinian civilians. What are they supposed to do, sacrifice their own people to appear more virtuous to TikTok dipshits?

  13. Considering the challenges of dealing with terrorists who hide in tunnels beneath hospital and the incredibly densely populated Gaza strip id say this ratio is a tremendous achievement and truly shows Israel is doing its absolute best in minimizing casualties

  14. People really like to throw out “indiscriminate” without any understanding of what that means…

  15. I mean , what do you expect ? Hamas hides behind civilians and civilian unfractured and tells civilians not to leave. What are you guys expecting ? what should Israel response be according to you ?

  16. 2 civilians too many. Only psychopaths can accept this kind of rationale for innocents dying by their hands.

  17. IDF: “We successfully prevented Hamas from recruiting 10,000 people.”

  18. Wonder what they would say if the situation was reversed…..

  19. Feel like you’d have to be a sociopathic piece of shit to say what’s happening is Gaza is anywhere close to a good job… they’ve committed blatant war crimes… and they get the media arm of the world to dilute that into, “we’ve actually done great only killing twice the civilians as militants – and that’s by whatever fucked up measure we’re using to make children and anyone communicating dissent a terrorist.”

  21. What is the process in identifying Hamas? they are not wearing uniform and especially after an explosion it must be really hard to tell.

  22. The fucking lies we tell ourselves and others to justify actions.

  25. I’d be willing to bet that ratio is misrepresented to look better than it actually is, which is already pretty fuckin rough.

  26. How reliable is reporting of causalities by an invading force though. Aren’t all males of “combat age” legitimate targets ?

  27. To be frank im shocked it’s that low. It’s easy for western civilians who have no idea what they’re taking about to be aghast about this reality, while having no notion of the fact that the Iraq War closed out north of 70% civ casualty rate, and that was ***without the revolutionary guard intentionally using the entire civilian population as a meat shield.***

    Criticize Isreal all you want, but what is being done intentionally in Gaza by Palestinian combatants is one of the most disgusting war crimes we’ve seen in the past 50 years.

    When your goal has nothing to do with independence and everything to do with the eradication of Jews at any cost, all normal solutions and logic go out the window.

    How do you negotiate with someone who’s first terms are “I want you to be wiped from the face of the earth, then let’s talk”.

  28. They’re not even hiding it anymore. Lmao Netanyahu is such an unbelievable piece of shit. Should have stayed ousted.

  29. > Conricus added: “I can say that if that is true – and I think that our numbers will be corroborated – if you compare that ratio to any other conflict in urban terrain between a military and a terrorist organization using civilians as their human shields, and embedded in the civilian population, you will find that that ratio is tremendous, tremendously positive, and perhaps unique in the world.”

    > Contacted later by CNN, Conricus sought to clarify his remarks, saying that the IDF could not confirm the numbers cited by AFP and had only meant to say that he had seen the news agency’s report.

  30. Two state solution is a ratio of a lot less civilians killed on either side.

  31. **Narrator:** It was more than two civilians for every militant.

  32. This is, indeed, extraordinarily successful ratio.

    According to data from the United Nations, **the global civilian-to-combatant ratio is 9:1**, meaning that on average, wars produce nine civilian casualties for every combatant.

    According to data from the United States National Institutes of Health, the ratio produced by the United States in the 2003 Iraq War was 3:1, and in Afghanistan, various sources put the numbers at anywhere from 3:1 to 5:1 (sources include the Uppsala Conflict Data Program and Brown University’s Costs of War program).

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