PISA Study 2022: Estonia has the best educational system in Europe, and among the top in the world

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  4. As a Swede I would like to comment on the sharp downturn in the last 5 years but if I do I’ll be banned.

  5. Wow, Albania recording the biggest drop in all 3 categories. Does anyone has some insights on why?

  7. Vietnam’s performance is quite impressive considering it is a developing country.

  8. Poland drops due to having hundreds of thousands of kids from Ukraine enter the educational system. Many with barely any Polish language. That surely had an effect. Back in 2018 Poland was much higher in pretty much every metric. The war and Covid ruined everything. I don’t blame Ukrainian kids for not scoring as high due to the stress of war and moving to another country. But the statistics don’t care. The drop is there for a reason. This could be one of them. Along with Covid.

  9. What is most concerning here to me is that vast majority of countries experienced decline in their math score, while very few experienced increase in their score.

  10. The numbers are not very encouraging for Europe. Even if we can write this sea of decline as one-time effect of lockdown measures, many countries seem to display a clear long-term decline. Finnish media is definitely discussing this heavily, the most highlighted reason seems to be effect of smart devices.

  12. As the parent of kids in the Polish school system, it’s nice to see that it scores so well on these rankings.

    In reality, there are issues with it such as the politicisation and “catholicisation” of the curriculum, which a lot of people have an opinion on. I also think there is much too much emphasis on wrote learning rather than creative thinking. This may differ by school, but i find the sports education to be quite lacking, especially for girls.

  13. Ugh this downward trend is such an embarassment for the Netherlands

  15. What is wrong with China? Only Hong Kong and Macao (top 0.00001 wealthiest citizens) are on a chart.

  16. Is it me or the whole world is going down in education scores ?

  17. Why is Iceland doing so badly compared to other Nordic countries?

  19. Poland seeing a 27-point decline in maths over a period of four PiS-riddled years sounds about right.

    Fuck you Czarnek, and fuck you Kaczor.

  20. I still think we should be looking at this in a less myopic way. This is only testing for test passing abilities and not for actual value creation for society that the education provides.

  23. When I was at school, we had a PISA test and one of the guys from my class was selected to do it. When we asked him later about it, he was like, I did the math part, then the reading was so long that I just put answers at random. This is in Bulgaria, one of the nicer schools, and the guy is now a pretty good engineer. All I’ll say is, I think this test measures mostly the ability to do tests for the sake of tests.

  24. As a HS/gymnasium student in the Icelandic education system right now Im sadly not shocked in the slightest by that insane drop off…

    The amount of classmates who act almost like silent zombies (i.e. not even wanting to say their name in group projects, saying nothing in class) and who can barely write simple grammatically correct sentences in class is actually unbelieavable

    Add a 33% dropout rate for boys and 20% for girls despite a wide variety of trade and academic programmes available and you get the picture…

    I dont know if its COVID to blame (Iceland never locked down and schools were only shut for a few weeks), Tiktok frying their brains or just total apathy but this shows its reaching crisis point and its extremely worrying

  25. From Croatia… I know my friends who were selected for this didnt take it seriously

  27. -21 Holy you younger ones are getting dumber, you need to step up your studies.

  28. Darn how Finland has fallen. We really need to rethink if the open environments in our schools are working. In my humble opinion, middle-schoolers are not adults, and they should not be responsible in more than doing what the curriculum says they’ll need to do. There’s enough time for self-actualization once the kids have learned all the basics.

    It would be interesting to see if there’s any truth to the right-wingers’ claim that the rates or down due to so many immigrants not having adequate language skills. It would make sense if you only have a basic vocabulary, you’d have trouble with understanding more advanced topics. But I have trouble believing the minorities are really dragging the averages down this much.

  29. We might be the best in Europe but we used to be even higher previous years. This drop was communicated as a loss in our local news. Very shameful. 😀

  30. I’m surprised Canada is so high. There’s a directive at my kids school to make sure that math is taught with “social justice and equity” in mind. The Principal shared that she was trying to figure out how that can be done.

    I suppose that may have no impact to learning, but it sounds like it could become a distraction.

  31. The PISA studies aren‘t really representive. There is no „best“ educational system.

  32. It’s true we Americans suck at math. In my graduate level quantum mechanics class I added 1/4 + 1/4 into 1/8.

    Edit: Why the downvotes lol? It’s a joke (about something that actually happened). The tables are right. Good at science. Bad at math.

  34. The lower the number of non-European welfare immigrants, the better the PISA results.
    It’s a robust trend that can be plotted.

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