This day, 29 years ago, Budapest Memorandum was signed. Ukraine gave up nuclear weapons in exchange for Security Assurances from Russia, the UK, and the USA. All nukes were given under Kremlin control, as the US believed it was easier to deal with one big nuclear state. ⚰️

by Orcasystems99

9 comments
  1. Have to give UK credit, they signed in good faith and have kept their part of the deal. The other two countries attacked, russia from the front and the USA in the back.

  2. Good luck getting any nation, to give up nuclear weapons ever again.

    And is the “USA assurance of security” worth the paper its printed on ?

  3. You have to plan longterm, when signing treaties.

    But I assume that only very few people predicted the course of events. The guarantees were vague and insubstantial and had they been stronger, Russia would have bent them to justify their invasion.

    With hindsight only NATO-like or keeping the nukes would have prevented Russia from invading.

  4. The problem is not getting Ukraine to sign it, the problem is not doing anything of significance after 2014 to help Ukraine. Yes, some measures were taken, but they were half-hearted and basically showed the world that a piece of paper means nothing when facing down a large army. F-16s should have been supplied in 2015-2016.

  5. Meanwhile by now really Germany is saving Ukraine from losing. Fucking US politicians…

  6. Only a traitor and a fascist would withhold the aid officially guaranteed to Ukraine in writing as leverage for unrelated border policy.
    A man who believes the US should be like Russia, an unreliable, backstabbing mafia state.
    A man without honor.

  7. The feeling then was more likely that Ukraine would collapse and mafia would steal the nukes if left in Ukraine, while Russia was getting nicer and had better technical capability to keep them safe.

    As it turned out, the mafia did steal the nukes.

  8. In Democratic countries like USA, signed documents don’t mean anything unless they also include the means to pay for the response. Congress holds that authority.

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