A lot of American allies are allies only on paper; so it’s not all that surprising
There are no allies in intelligence, nobody
They are very lucky they were caught in Spain, in any other country the will be facing several years of jail.
“We are friends, let me see your notes”
Well then. I think we can expect Spain to ask a lot of question to US diplomats in the coming week or so.
secret service is a bit misleading as some people might think it’s similar to the secret service in the US. I think National intelligence center is a better translation
The photo of defense Minister and the US ambassador it’s ofensive. I don’t expect a friendly and happily reunion after the spy event.
Only UK and Israel re USs allies. So staying away from US is critical.
expel?, they should have gone to jail. they will just try again else where.
The CIA will not take this lightly prepare to be overthrown and a authoritarian regime installed!
What are you hiding Spain?!?!
Yo soy español. Puedes confiar en mi.
CIA >>>> TIA
If they infiltrated in secret service already should they be imprisoned for long time or maybe even executed after all they probably stole some informations?
This is a crazy story. Even the article mentions that Spain openly shares info with the US. I wonder what they were after. Surprised it’s not a bigger story.
On behalf of an American, sorry thats a dick move. But know that we will be the first ones there if someone threatens you, which i think is very important to have from an ally.
The only reason they were expelled was because they were exposed by the media. These types of intelligence activities are very common between all countries, and are even quite helpful in advancing diplomacy as they give a clearer picture of what each country’s intentions are as well as building trust, which is why governments generally turn a blind eye to them (until they get publicly exposed of course)
Strange that they needed physical spies too!
I thought that the thousands of devices with proprietary (closed-source) software from Microsoft (Windows, Office, SharePoint), Facebook (Messenger, WhatsApp, Instagram), Google (Android, Chrome), Apple (iOS) did almost all the spying work.
It’s not like somebody can really know what a closed-source software is doing and is sending from a device.
Especially when it using secured connections and show something like “Checking for updates”.
But I guess no matter how many thousands and millions of devices and software have spying for them, the US is really greedy on data collection.
But now let’s see the downvotes and appologetic comments from people who think that the US are our “allies”, “friends”, etc and that their behavior should be condoned.
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Damn, I thought we had em this time.
A lot of American allies are allies only on paper; so it’s not all that surprising
There are no allies in intelligence, nobody
They are very lucky they were caught in Spain, in any other country the will be facing several years of jail.
“We are friends, let me see your notes”
Well then. I think we can expect Spain to ask a lot of question to US diplomats in the coming week or so.
secret service is a bit misleading as some people might think it’s similar to the secret service in the US. I think National intelligence center is a better translation
The photo of defense Minister and the US ambassador it’s ofensive. I don’t expect a friendly and happily reunion after the spy event.
Only UK and Israel re USs allies. So staying away from US is critical.
expel?, they should have gone to jail. they will just try again else where.
The CIA will not take this lightly prepare to be overthrown and a authoritarian regime installed!
What are you hiding Spain?!?!
Yo soy español. Puedes confiar en mi.
CIA >>>> TIA
If they infiltrated in secret service already should they be imprisoned for long time or maybe even executed after all they probably stole some informations?
This is a crazy story. Even the article mentions that Spain openly shares info with the US. I wonder what they were after. Surprised it’s not a bigger story.
On behalf of an American, sorry thats a dick move. But know that we will be the first ones there if someone threatens you, which i think is very important to have from an ally.
The only reason they were expelled was because they were exposed by the media. These types of intelligence activities are very common between all countries, and are even quite helpful in advancing diplomacy as they give a clearer picture of what each country’s intentions are as well as building trust, which is why governments generally turn a blind eye to them (until they get publicly exposed of course)
Strange that they needed physical spies too!
I thought that the thousands of devices with proprietary (closed-source) software from Microsoft (Windows, Office, SharePoint), Facebook (Messenger, WhatsApp, Instagram), Google (Android, Chrome), Apple (iOS) did almost all the spying work.
It’s not like somebody can really know what a closed-source software is doing and is sending from a device.
Especially when it using secured connections and show something like “Checking for updates”.
But I guess no matter how many thousands and millions of devices and software have spying for them, the US is really greedy on data collection.
But now let’s see the downvotes and appologetic comments from people who think that the US are our “allies”, “friends”, etc and that their behavior should be condoned.