That’s what I tell myself too. Lying to myself helps not being to sad about dying alone.
Thus Japanese people will go extinct.
No surprise. The Japanese concept of marriage is business-like: Man provides financial stability, woman raises kids and maintains the household. Love and companionship are just extras that they often sacrifice for the sake of having a family. In the Japanese mind “marriage=kids” and that’s it. Leading cause of divorce the past decade has been “mismatched personalities” which they should have figured out before even marrying.
There’s also immense social pressure—worse on women—to hit certain life stages by certain ages. The concept of DINKs still hasn’t really caught on, and those looking for a DINKs marriage are either harassed for not conforming, or avoid marriage altogether because—again discrimination against women—women often get fired or mishandled by companies after marriage because in their one-track mind the concept of a childfree marriage doesn’t exist.
(DINKs = Double Income No Kids)
Japanese society is still lagging behind because of rigid, biased and stereotyped expectations of what people should be or do, and anyone who doesn’t meet those expectations is ostracized, sometimes overtly but mostly covertly.
it’s not like the government and society were making marriage seem like a desirable or an achievable goal in Japan. There seems to be this belief that no matter the social and economical constraints, people (read : cogs in the machine that produce stuff/services, pay taxes and consume stuff/services for the benefit of employers, governments and corporations) will mindlessly have babies (because the point of getting married in Japan is to have kids; having kids out of wedlock is so taboo that it makes a very rare occurrence over there). But it’s not to the advantage of women (stuck in a gender role of stay-at-home wife and mother, which means no financial independence) and it’s not to the advantage of men (stuck in the gender role of provider, in an era where it’s now impossible for most people to support an entire ass family on one income, and (for those interested in that) no possibility to really live fatherhood). So why would anyone get married (and pop out babies)?
The government and corporations’ answer : because that’s what cogs do.
No matter what the economy or sociology specialists say, no one is willing to make marriage and parenthood desirable, accessible or affordable. Because tradition blablabla.
EDIT : Typos.
100% of Japan Baby Boomers angry at Gen Z for refusing to marry and have kids.
Yay capitalism
Huh. Maybe I am Japanese
Hell yeah, dude. Going through a divorce after 15 years together makes me wish I had never gotten married.
The only good thing it ever gave me were my two daughters.
Who would want to live with the older generation in heavy debt. Japan inheritance law is broken and it causes the younger generation to forsake the older ones. Now, it’s becoming an example to the younger generation that no matter what you do, you’ll end up alone.
They should have their parents conduct the surveys. See if they get the same results…
While America ruins people prospects of getting married economically, Japan just B lines to destroying straight for the soul.
That low rumbling you hear in the distance is Shinzo Abe rolling in his grave.
Damn, that’s so sad.
Because marriage and after that having children costs lot and peeps cannot afford them expenses because our government is so freakin corrupted rn.
On top of that, sex can be bought anywhere.
Not surprising tbh
Yeah they won’t say that once the have retired and there is not enough people to look after them
The concept of marriage is really outdated and totally unnecessary. You can be with someone, raise a family, etc. and never get married. And if you never want to settle down with someone or have kids, that is also your right. The societal pressure behind it really is unfair and luckily seems to be fading. Just let people live their lives (as long as they’re not hurting anyone). Don’t overthink this stuff. The end.
On top of the fact that just not everyone wants kids, there’s also:
1. Kids are very expensive, even with double income
2. In Japan specifically, their work culture is so insane there’s literally no time for people to have kids, let alone date/marry.
In this day and age a lot of Gen Z are struggling to afford rent/live. How the hell are they expected to throw a kid into that equation
Idk how many of you picked up on the fact that this was a survey covering 1000 people, split into 6 or so age groups so about 150 per group if evenly distributed which I doubt, it’s more likely 300 per 50 plus group and correspondingly less for the others. So representativity/margin of error given Japan’s population of +/- 120mn.?
I’m not disputing the conclusion, it’s unsurprising, but still…
Guess … it’s goodbye Japan … but it’s not that simple. I believe in Japan.
Very relatable
Yeah, me too… *sobs quietly*
We’ll see how long that lasts.
Universally, unmarried couples who’ve lived together long enough should have the same rights as married couples and the concept of marriage should be optional
It’s shitty to be a kid in Japan anyway. The environment is competitive from birth; some kids start attending Juku or cram school as early as kindergarten. Parents with financial means load their kids with various activities they believe will shape their future. In addition to regular schooling, children might attend English classes, cram schools for math, science, and Japanese. This preparation is for entrance exams, determining admission to middle school, high school, or university, depending on their age. Extracurricular activities, like band practice and sports, further fill their schedules, leaving little time for personal pursuits. Japan’s school system is criticised for its lack of creative thinking and reluctance to question authority, even when it’s wrong. Unfortunately, the high suicide rate among young children adds to these challenges.
I wonder how long it will take them to realize that it’s the fault of capitalism.
Marriage is antiquated. It’s left over from feudalism and kept alive because of religion.
We where supposed to have robots doing everything by now, having every need met, and humans could spend their time on science and art.
And now we’re even heading in the wrong direction for that, I am not signing someone else up for this shit.
Amazing trend. So happy to see people finally waking up.
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That’s what I tell myself too. Lying to myself helps not being to sad about dying alone.
Thus Japanese people will go extinct.
No surprise. The Japanese concept of marriage is business-like: Man provides financial stability, woman raises kids and maintains the household. Love and companionship are just extras that they often sacrifice for the sake of having a family. In the Japanese mind “marriage=kids” and that’s it. Leading cause of divorce the past decade has been “mismatched personalities” which they should have figured out before even marrying.
There’s also immense social pressure—worse on women—to hit certain life stages by certain ages. The concept of DINKs still hasn’t really caught on, and those looking for a DINKs marriage are either harassed for not conforming, or avoid marriage altogether because—again discrimination against women—women often get fired or mishandled by companies after marriage because in their one-track mind the concept of a childfree marriage doesn’t exist.
(DINKs = Double Income No Kids)
Japanese society is still lagging behind because of rigid, biased and stereotyped expectations of what people should be or do, and anyone who doesn’t meet those expectations is ostracized, sometimes overtly but mostly covertly.
it’s not like the government and society were making marriage seem like a desirable or an achievable goal in Japan. There seems to be this belief that no matter the social and economical constraints, people (read : cogs in the machine that produce stuff/services, pay taxes and consume stuff/services for the benefit of employers, governments and corporations) will mindlessly have babies (because the point of getting married in Japan is to have kids; having kids out of wedlock is so taboo that it makes a very rare occurrence over there). But it’s not to the advantage of women (stuck in a gender role of stay-at-home wife and mother, which means no financial independence) and it’s not to the advantage of men (stuck in the gender role of provider, in an era where it’s now impossible for most people to support an entire ass family on one income, and (for those interested in that) no possibility to really live fatherhood). So why would anyone get married (and pop out babies)?
The government and corporations’ answer : because that’s what cogs do.
No matter what the economy or sociology specialists say, no one is willing to make marriage and parenthood desirable, accessible or affordable. Because tradition blablabla.
EDIT : Typos.
100% of Japan Baby Boomers angry at Gen Z for refusing to marry and have kids.
Yay capitalism
Huh. Maybe I am Japanese
Hell yeah, dude. Going through a divorce after 15 years together makes me wish I had never gotten married.
The only good thing it ever gave me were my two daughters.
Who would want to live with the older generation in heavy debt. Japan inheritance law is broken and it causes the younger generation to forsake the older ones. Now, it’s becoming an example to the younger generation that no matter what you do, you’ll end up alone.
They should have their parents conduct the surveys. See if they get the same results…
While America ruins people prospects of getting married economically, Japan just B lines to destroying straight for the soul.
That low rumbling you hear in the distance is Shinzo Abe rolling in his grave.
Damn, that’s so sad.
Because marriage and after that having children costs lot and peeps cannot afford them expenses because our government is so freakin corrupted rn.
On top of that, sex can be bought anywhere.
Not surprising tbh
Yeah they won’t say that once the have retired and there is not enough people to look after them
The concept of marriage is really outdated and totally unnecessary. You can be with someone, raise a family, etc. and never get married. And if you never want to settle down with someone or have kids, that is also your right. The societal pressure behind it really is unfair and luckily seems to be fading. Just let people live their lives (as long as they’re not hurting anyone). Don’t overthink this stuff. The end.
On top of the fact that just not everyone wants kids, there’s also:
1. Kids are very expensive, even with double income
2. In Japan specifically, their work culture is so insane there’s literally no time for people to have kids, let alone date/marry.
In this day and age a lot of Gen Z are struggling to afford rent/live. How the hell are they expected to throw a kid into that equation
Idk how many of you picked up on the fact that this was a survey covering 1000 people, split into 6 or so age groups so about 150 per group if evenly distributed which I doubt, it’s more likely 300 per 50 plus group and correspondingly less for the others. So representativity/margin of error given Japan’s population of +/- 120mn.?
I’m not disputing the conclusion, it’s unsurprising, but still…
Guess … it’s goodbye Japan … but it’s not that simple. I believe in Japan.
Very relatable
Yeah, me too… *sobs quietly*
We’ll see how long that lasts.
Universally, unmarried couples who’ve lived together long enough should have the same rights as married couples and the concept of marriage should be optional
It’s shitty to be a kid in Japan anyway. The environment is competitive from birth; some kids start attending Juku or cram school as early as kindergarten. Parents with financial means load their kids with various activities they believe will shape their future. In addition to regular schooling, children might attend English classes, cram schools for math, science, and Japanese. This preparation is for entrance exams, determining admission to middle school, high school, or university, depending on their age. Extracurricular activities, like band practice and sports, further fill their schedules, leaving little time for personal pursuits. Japan’s school system is criticised for its lack of creative thinking and reluctance to question authority, even when it’s wrong. Unfortunately, the high suicide rate among young children adds to these challenges.
I wonder how long it will take them to realize that it’s the fault of capitalism.
Marriage is antiquated. It’s left over from feudalism and kept alive because of religion.
We where supposed to have robots doing everything by now, having every need met, and humans could spend their time on science and art.
And now we’re even heading in the wrong direction for that, I am not signing someone else up for this shit.
Amazing trend. So happy to see people finally waking up.