The south Korean government sounds just like my mother
Overworked and underpaid, like everyone else.
Don’t need to ask their own citizens. Me in a South East Asia country, to afford the best school so he can go over seas to study costs me a total of 1.5 million ringgit in total.
That means I need to save up a total of 6250 myr per month for the next 20 years PER CHILD (if we don’t factor in compounding interest). We haven’t factor in his medical insurance to food and what not. Also note our minimum wage is myr 1800/month.
Kids are fucking expensive if you wanna be a responsible parent.
This seems like the kind of question where after getting the answer, the government will go “No. That’s not it.” and ignore it.
Because there’s no merit in having kids. They cost your money, your time, your health, and your freedom.
SK govertment has trouble finding those young couples in the first place. Every one is busy struggling with their careers.
Hint: “Hell Joseon”
Civilizations goes through a 100 year cycle of generational change, lasting 20-25 years per generation.
Age of Heroes: People fighting for change.
Age of Builders: People trying to recover from the damages.
Age of Thinkers: People having the needed leisure time to progress into their new found world.
Age of the Lost: People not knowing what to accomplish when everything has been already done for them.
We’re in the “Age of the Lost”. Progress has moved faster than their ability to adapt, not knowing where to belong. People during this stage fall into easy escapism, desire to belong, and wanting someone, anyone, to show them the way. This is when madmen become leaders, wars start, people lose the desire to pursue a future, and inevitably, Age of Heroes will come again.
Japan, China and Korea seems to be taking the exact same approaches lol.
After they get their answers: Bah, this is why young people are stupid.
Kids cost money, money no one wants to pay them. This is the consequence. Fix the issues, don’t yell at people for being forced to choose.
Why do you refuse to give me money
South Korean special forces sneaking into houses, sticking needles through condoms and mixing testosterone gel onto gaming mics and joysticks.
The cause of it acting as they didn’t have a clue. The answer is corruption in form of inflation, specially in criminal real estate. Overexploiting the province areas and massifiing Seul with enormous income disparity. Recurrent problem in all Asia actually. Nothing else is needed but good policy to lower BASIC cost of living.
Incentivise having children – Free childcare. Lower taxes for families.
Free university. Cheaper housing or cheaper loans for families.
My general understanding as a non-Korean;
SK is ultra-capitalism without the huge amounts of land and resources that the US has. Chaebols (large companies like Samsung) bring in 60% or so of the entire nations GDP and have a massive influence on the government and economy. Surprise surprise you have a country that is hugely focused on individual success, work and money. What do you think Squid Game was a commentary about?
When everyone is in mountains of debt and working their fingers to the bone, there isn’t much time for fucking, let alone the financial and time commitment of raising children. Pile on the general shitty state of the world and prospects for the future? Fahgedaboudit
Did the goverment forget to think with their brain?
Housing is too expensive and small.
Working too many hours
Kids are expensive
There are barely any pediatricians left in Korea
Having a kid is stressful and time consuming
It’s a global problem, SK, and other developed countries are just the tip of the iceberg. Modern times and modern values, means fewer people in future generations to carry on those values.
Everywhere it’s nearly the same answers: financial instability and the prospect of humanity going down the shitter.
Although the answer is obvious, it’s good that the government is asking the question.
If only the government stop being so hell-bent on productivity and allow people more time, less stress and more support to couples willing to have baby…
Government: “Why no kids?”.
People: “No money”.
Government: “Wrong answer”.
give people salary from having children.
They wanted to implement a 69 hour work week. Yeah let’s spend all our time at work and see if you can have children then raise them. A modern country with a third world country mindset.
Fly me out there, I’m willing to serve.
It’s expensive and everybody is working
If the government have to ask that question then what are they doing in government?
Money.
The political class has detached itself and is living in its own protective bubble. This is clearly a global issue. And yet, they just refuse to see it.
Like those really obnoxious people who try extremely hard to convince you that having kids is the best thing you can do for your life. Birthrates are in such a decline because the average person can’t fit raising a child into their life. Time, money, happiness, it’s all factored into that choice as much as the annoying people trying to pry into your life don’t want it to be.
Even if my girl friend wanted to have kids we dont have the time, money, or patience to properly raise a kid in a nurturing environment like we’d want to. Saying, “Oh you’ll change your mind in a few years.” Isn’t going to change our minds. Now if you provided basic child care needs to people and financial support you might see a rise in birthrates, but no one wants to do that.
Outside of the economics there is a social issue that many are too afraid to talk about
There’s something called the behavioural sink where living becomes too stressful (usually through over population) and then the population collapses, but because of running out of resources, but because of a series of self destructive behaviours.
I wonder if this is what we are starting to witness.
For anyone wanting to move and work in Korea – it’s a very stressful environment where you are expected to do lots of unpaid overtime. This is the reason why Koreans themselves aren’t having kids.
I’ve heard Koreans call themselves “ants” because all they do is work work work.
Not even Korean but I can answer that. It’s too expensive to have children. Can’t even take care of themselves. Makes children out of the question
This is why the GOP took abortion away. They need unhappy workers
Sounds like the threat of robots and AI replacing us may be premature if they’re pearl clutching about citizens not procreating.
South Korea channeling Captain Holt with the “Why is no one having children? I specifically requested it”
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The south Korean government sounds just like my mother
Overworked and underpaid, like everyone else.
Don’t need to ask their own citizens. Me in a South East Asia country, to afford the best school so he can go over seas to study costs me a total of 1.5 million ringgit in total.
That means I need to save up a total of 6250 myr per month for the next 20 years PER CHILD (if we don’t factor in compounding interest). We haven’t factor in his medical insurance to food and what not. Also note our minimum wage is myr 1800/month.
Kids are fucking expensive if you wanna be a responsible parent.
This seems like the kind of question where after getting the answer, the government will go “No. That’s not it.” and ignore it.
Because there’s no merit in having kids. They cost your money, your time, your health, and your freedom.
SK govertment has trouble finding those young couples in the first place. Every one is busy struggling with their careers.
Hint: “Hell Joseon”
Civilizations goes through a 100 year cycle of generational change, lasting 20-25 years per generation.
Age of Heroes: People fighting for change.
Age of Builders: People trying to recover from the damages.
Age of Thinkers: People having the needed leisure time to progress into their new found world.
Age of the Lost: People not knowing what to accomplish when everything has been already done for them.
We’re in the “Age of the Lost”. Progress has moved faster than their ability to adapt, not knowing where to belong. People during this stage fall into easy escapism, desire to belong, and wanting someone, anyone, to show them the way. This is when madmen become leaders, wars start, people lose the desire to pursue a future, and inevitably, Age of Heroes will come again.
Japan, China and Korea seems to be taking the exact same approaches lol.
After they get their answers: Bah, this is why young people are stupid.
Kids cost money, money no one wants to pay them. This is the consequence. Fix the issues, don’t yell at people for being forced to choose.
Why do you refuse to give me money
South Korean special forces sneaking into houses, sticking needles through condoms and mixing testosterone gel onto gaming mics and joysticks.
The cause of it acting as they didn’t have a clue. The answer is corruption in form of inflation, specially in criminal real estate. Overexploiting the province areas and massifiing Seul with enormous income disparity. Recurrent problem in all Asia actually. Nothing else is needed but good policy to lower BASIC cost of living.
Incentivise having children – Free childcare. Lower taxes for families.
Free university. Cheaper housing or cheaper loans for families.
My general understanding as a non-Korean;
SK is ultra-capitalism without the huge amounts of land and resources that the US has. Chaebols (large companies like Samsung) bring in 60% or so of the entire nations GDP and have a massive influence on the government and economy. Surprise surprise you have a country that is hugely focused on individual success, work and money. What do you think Squid Game was a commentary about?
When everyone is in mountains of debt and working their fingers to the bone, there isn’t much time for fucking, let alone the financial and time commitment of raising children. Pile on the general shitty state of the world and prospects for the future? Fahgedaboudit
Did the goverment forget to think with their brain?
Housing is too expensive and small.
Working too many hours
Kids are expensive
There are barely any pediatricians left in Korea
Having a kid is stressful and time consuming
It’s a global problem, SK, and other developed countries are just the tip of the iceberg. Modern times and modern values, means fewer people in future generations to carry on those values.
Everywhere it’s nearly the same answers: financial instability and the prospect of humanity going down the shitter.
Although the answer is obvious, it’s good that the government is asking the question.
If only the government stop being so hell-bent on productivity and allow people more time, less stress and more support to couples willing to have baby…
Government: “Why no kids?”.
People: “No money”.
Government: “Wrong answer”.
give people salary from having children.
They wanted to implement a 69 hour work week. Yeah let’s spend all our time at work and see if you can have children then raise them. A modern country with a third world country mindset.
Fly me out there, I’m willing to serve.
It’s expensive and everybody is working
If the government have to ask that question then what are they doing in government?
Money.
The political class has detached itself and is living in its own protective bubble. This is clearly a global issue. And yet, they just refuse to see it.
Like those really obnoxious people who try extremely hard to convince you that having kids is the best thing you can do for your life. Birthrates are in such a decline because the average person can’t fit raising a child into their life. Time, money, happiness, it’s all factored into that choice as much as the annoying people trying to pry into your life don’t want it to be.
Even if my girl friend wanted to have kids we dont have the time, money, or patience to properly raise a kid in a nurturing environment like we’d want to. Saying, “Oh you’ll change your mind in a few years.” Isn’t going to change our minds. Now if you provided basic child care needs to people and financial support you might see a rise in birthrates, but no one wants to do that.
Outside of the economics there is a social issue that many are too afraid to talk about
There’s something called the behavioural sink where living becomes too stressful (usually through over population) and then the population collapses, but because of running out of resources, but because of a series of self destructive behaviours.
I wonder if this is what we are starting to witness.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink
For anyone wanting to move and work in Korea – it’s a very stressful environment where you are expected to do lots of unpaid overtime. This is the reason why Koreans themselves aren’t having kids.
I’ve heard Koreans call themselves “ants” because all they do is work work work.
Not even Korean but I can answer that. It’s too expensive to have children. Can’t even take care of themselves. Makes children out of the question
This is why the GOP took abortion away. They need unhappy workers
Sounds like the threat of robots and AI replacing us may be premature if they’re pearl clutching about citizens not procreating.
South Korea channeling Captain Holt with the “Why is no one having children? I specifically requested it”