McEntee tells newest citizens economy would ‘contract’ without them [over 6,000 people from 142 countries to gain citizenship this week]

by badger-biscuits

19 comments

  1. Legal immigrants are a plus for most countries, it’s the illegals and economic migrants that are the problem in most first world countries.

  5. Someone has gotta work purely to pay the landlords alright.

  7. Welcome newest Indentured Citizen! You will now contribute to our tax base. Many thanks!

  10. As great as it is that we have new citizens that will contribute plenty to Ireland, she needs to resign due to her utter lack of focusing on policing the streets. She’ll talk about literally anything else. Sick of her.

  11. Welcoming them by telling them of their use to us as economic statistics.

    How very uplifting for them.

  12. This is great news. Legal migrants who can work and contribute, very welcome.

    Dumping 74 male asylum seekers in the middle of nowhere, prohibiting them from working, ensuring they’ve nothing to do all day, is a bad idea.

  13. MeN oF fIgHtInG AgE!! wHeRe ArE tHe WoMeN aNd KiDs?

    /s

  14. So are they doing it for the economy or is it humanitarian I don’t understand

  15. Ahhh so that’s why we’re bringing in people and handing them a sleeping bag. Knew these politicians weren’t just in it for the good of humanity.

  16. What’s the point of even becoming a citizen? I’m an Irish citizen, live on the island and can’t vote for the president, can’t take out a loan to buy property in Dublin or the other side of the border, can’t even take out a pay month phone plan in the south. Citizenship is a crock of shit these days.

  17. I am going to keep reposting these statistics as people seem not to be aware of them:

    The problem these days is everyone seems to want to make their idealogical take on immigration policy (you can even see it with the FG minister only seeing new citizens as units of economic output here, all fits very well with the FG world view). This is also the case for the far right and their hateful views, or the left and their “Oh, just let everyone in” views.

    If we’re honest, the government isn’t using any data when they pass remark or make a statement, it’s all smoke and mirrors.

    The data however is public on the CSO website. Immigration by non-EU/UK/Irish citizens as a percentage of the population of Ireland in the year that the immigrant arrived has been on average 0.49% in the period since 1996.

    Since then, there have been 10 years in which we have had immigration by non-EU/UK/Irish citizens as a percentage of the population above this, nearly all of these years have been consecutively since 2016. In fact the only year below this average since 2016 was 2021 due to covid (which brought it down to 0.32% which more or less what it was prior to 2016 as the average from 1996 to 2015 was 0.37%). Since 2017, the percentage hasn’t dropped below 0.75% of the population.

    See: [https://data.cso.ie/table/PEA01](https://data.cso.ie/table/PEA01)

    You can see this exact same trend when you look at the raw immigration stats as well (so we know the above is not just related to just the resident population decreasing). The vast majority of years before 2016 were below the average immigration intake between 1996 and 2023 (which is 22,690 people a year). Now, this year, we have taken in 257.38% than the average (with the average intake per year since 2016 being 79.85% more than the average intake across all years from 1996 to 2023).

    Below is the data with the number of non-EU/UK/Irish citizen immigrants per year since 1996. Beside it is the percentage difference from the average for this period (i.e. negative is below, 0 is the average, positive is above).

    |Year|Number|Percentage Difference From The Average|
    |:-|:-|:-|
    |1996|8200|-63.87%|
    |1997|9700|-57.26%|
    |1998|7000|-69.15%|
    |1999|7000|-69.15%|
    |2000|11100|-51.09%|
    |2001|17300|-23.76%|
    |2002|24400|7.52%|
    |2003|24500|7.96%|
    |2004|21100|-7.02%|
    |2005|13700|-39.63%|
    |2006|16400|-27.73%|
    |2007|19000|-16.27%|
    |2008|18600|-18.04%|
    |2009|14100|-37.87%|
    |2010|6000|-73.56%|
    |2011|12400|-45.36%|
    |2012|17700|-22.00%|
    |2013|19800|-12.75%|
    |2014|19000|-16.27%|
    |2015|21900|-3.49%|
    |2016|23600|4.00%|
    |2017|35500|56.44%|
    |2018|36900|62.61%|
    |2019|37100|63.49%|
    |2020|37400|64.81%|
    |2021*|16100*|-29.05%*|
    |2022|58800|159.11%|
    |2023|81100|257.38%|

    *Year of covid lockdowns

    Notice how every year with the exception of the COVID year is above the average since 2016? And by more than 50% in every case since 2017? It’s not unreasonable to say this is a trend.

    See: [https://data.cso.ie/table/PEA24](https://data.cso.ie/table/PEA24)

    Why has this change happened? What exactly is going on that caused this sudden and very significant spike? What government policy has allowed this to happen? And most importantly, why is it that nobody seems to be able to articulate this trend in any reasonable way without dragging in relatively unrelated groups like asylum seekers (because if you look at the figures for asylum seekers, they only make up around 10-15% of the total number of immigrants in any given year, even in 2023)?

    Like if we zoom in on the last 2 years:

    There are 757,000 non-citizens in Ireland currently according to the CSO ([https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-pme/populationandmigrationestimatesapril2023/](https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-pme/populationandmigrationestimatesapril2023/)), 141,600 have come in the last 12 months of which 81,100 were non-Irish, EU or UK and 112,000 were non-Irish citizens. More than 1/7 non-Irish people in Ireland have statistically arrived in the last 12 months (14.8%).

    The previous 12 months ([https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-pme/populationandmigrationestimatesapril2022/keyfindings/](https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-pme/populationandmigrationestimatesapril2022/keyfindings/)) saw 120,700 immigrants, with 91,800 of those non-Irish citizens and 63,000 non-Irish, non-EU and non-UK. That would mean in total 203,800 non-Irish immigrants or 144,100 non-Irish/EU/UK immigrants have arrived in 2 years.

    Literally therefore 26.92% or more than a quarter of all non-Irish citizen residents have arrived in the last 2 years. That’s nearly 4% of Irelands normally resident population (5,281,600) or 1 in 26 people in Ireland have arrived in the last 2 years. Some yes are Ukrainians but even with that, this is all part of a longer trend of above average immigration patterns since 2016. Why? They aren’t on the whole asylum seekers, so why haven’t we done anything about this with the housing crisis? Especially when it’s the one group (non-EU/non-UK/non-Irish Citizens/non-asylum seekers) that we actually can control the numbers of.

  18. These people are not the same ones that are getting off boats in Greece and Italy and travelling through Europe to pick a country of their choosing. I would also say that the ones working in hospitals are not the same. The government likes to brush them all into one group as if you’re against some you must be against all.

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