Its just joining the long list of other unaffordable items
Edit: spelling
That’s the point I think
“People having craic?? Quick hike up the prices”
I don’t think alcohol is meant to be affordable.
I’d say we where already well up there in prices, so it’s no surprise. They’re using very oddball measurement systems in that article as well.
Worked in scotland for 4 years. Minimum unit pricing didn’t stop binge drinking there, and they’re as bad as us. Just more miserable and less craic about their unhealthy relationship with alcohol as a people.
A government might get away with insurance _or_ alcohol, _or_ electricity, _or_ car tax, _or_ rent _or_ public transport fares _or_ tobacco _or_ medicines being amongst the most expensive in Europe.
When you switch all of those ors to ands, people will seek to change the government.
We’re not a simple people dancing at crossroads any more. We’re a sophisticated European population who travel to other European countries and see how normal Europeans live, and the realisation is beginning to strike an awful lot of people that what we’re subjected to by a Government which draws amongst the highest salaries in Europe isn’t normal.
Taxes are only going one direction for the foreseeable future too. Somebody is gonna hafta pay the bill for the pandemic. We’ll have a tax on going to the toilet soon.
Don’t worry it will go up again and again and again.
So if you are okay with it now, you might not like it the next time it goes up or even the time after but this will keep going up till people say no, like everything, when people are pushing boundaries and stop saying it’s a tax, it’s not it’s price fixing.
Irish government: “But the sweet, sweet taxes, lads!”
Question: will this affect pricing in pubs and if not will pubs increase prices themselves anyway ?
Note: I’m not Irish.
But isn’t making alcohol more expensive just…..saying it’s exclusively for the wealthy?
What can be done can be undone, taxing people to oblivion is not going to win votes
what i don’t understand is how a country like Portugal can sell 1 litre of beer for 2 euro and not have a drinking problem among them.
This has just spurred me on to opening another bottle of whiskey. Don’t fancy paying these prices for beers and the spirits aren’t hit quite as hard (for decent brands anyway).
Sadly, my old man was a litre of vodka a day kind of guy… and a boat load of fags. This MUP wouldn’t have had any impact, he always found money for booze and fags, while staying in the most horrific accommodation and then moved back in with my Nan not long before he passed. Alcoholism is a horrific disease and this isn’t the fix
Every year I’m more satisfied that I don’t drink.
There’s clearly only one solution to this bullshit. The popularisation of home stills so we can make our own alcohol.
So what’s the most affordable thing in Ireland? Surely, there must be something?
The really pushed this one past us. Jayzuz, the pain of the housing crisis is becoming more expensive to numb
Would “western Europe” be Ireland, UK, France, Spain, Portugal?
Car fuel is taxed out the hole, so you can’t go anywhere. You can’t go anywhere so you have to stay home in your skyhigh rental. Can’t have a smoke because they’re taxed out the hole, can’t go out because the pubs are 6 euro a pint for something that probably cost a euro to make at best. At least a bag of cans is cheap.
Wait whats minimum unit pricing?
At what point do we stand up and say no more?
I’m not living in Ireland now, but I find the panic about the MUP a bit much. If your drinking is within reasonable limits, it’s fine. As far as I know, price increases do decrease levels of substance abuse, although obviously it’s not a magic bullet.
I have a bigger issue with the fact that the extra money is going mostly to the retailer, rather than as a straight tax to the government (if I understood it correctly). That’s crazy to me, it’s like the opposite of what a government should do.
It’s like they really really want people to emigrate
Quite tragic seeing irish people creating more drama due to alcohol prices than everything happening for past 3 years. Not surprising though
Far too much of the argument against MUP has been whether it impacts alcoholics, more focus should be how it denies adults personal liberty
How high can the misery meter go up
Far too much of the argument against MUP has been whether it impacts alcoholics, more focus should be how it denies adults personal liberty
Anyone up for organizing a protest on Saturday against MUP?
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Its just joining the long list of other unaffordable items
Edit: spelling
That’s the point I think
“People having craic?? Quick hike up the prices”
I don’t think alcohol is meant to be affordable.
I’d say we where already well up there in prices, so it’s no surprise. They’re using very oddball measurement systems in that article as well.
Worked in scotland for 4 years. Minimum unit pricing didn’t stop binge drinking there, and they’re as bad as us. Just more miserable and less craic about their unhealthy relationship with alcohol as a people.
A government might get away with insurance _or_ alcohol, _or_ electricity, _or_ car tax, _or_ rent _or_ public transport fares _or_ tobacco _or_ medicines being amongst the most expensive in Europe.
When you switch all of those ors to ands, people will seek to change the government.
We’re not a simple people dancing at crossroads any more. We’re a sophisticated European population who travel to other European countries and see how normal Europeans live, and the realisation is beginning to strike an awful lot of people that what we’re subjected to by a Government which draws amongst the highest salaries in Europe isn’t normal.
Taxes are only going one direction for the foreseeable future too. Somebody is gonna hafta pay the bill for the pandemic. We’ll have a tax on going to the toilet soon.
Don’t worry it will go up again and again and again.
So if you are okay with it now, you might not like it the next time it goes up or even the time after but this will keep going up till people say no, like everything, when people are pushing boundaries and stop saying it’s a tax, it’s not it’s price fixing.
Irish government: “But the sweet, sweet taxes, lads!”
Question: will this affect pricing in pubs and if not will pubs increase prices themselves anyway ?
Note: I’m not Irish.
But isn’t making alcohol more expensive just…..saying it’s exclusively for the wealthy?
What can be done can be undone, taxing people to oblivion is not going to win votes
what i don’t understand is how a country like Portugal can sell 1 litre of beer for 2 euro and not have a drinking problem among them.
This has just spurred me on to opening another bottle of whiskey. Don’t fancy paying these prices for beers and the spirits aren’t hit quite as hard (for decent brands anyway).
Sadly, my old man was a litre of vodka a day kind of guy… and a boat load of fags. This MUP wouldn’t have had any impact, he always found money for booze and fags, while staying in the most horrific accommodation and then moved back in with my Nan not long before he passed. Alcoholism is a horrific disease and this isn’t the fix
Every year I’m more satisfied that I don’t drink.
There’s clearly only one solution to this bullshit. The popularisation of home stills so we can make our own alcohol.
So what’s the most affordable thing in Ireland? Surely, there must be something?
The really pushed this one past us. Jayzuz, the pain of the housing crisis is becoming more expensive to numb
Would “western Europe” be Ireland, UK, France, Spain, Portugal?
Car fuel is taxed out the hole, so you can’t go anywhere. You can’t go anywhere so you have to stay home in your skyhigh rental. Can’t have a smoke because they’re taxed out the hole, can’t go out because the pubs are 6 euro a pint for something that probably cost a euro to make at best. At least a bag of cans is cheap.
Wait whats minimum unit pricing?
At what point do we stand up and say no more?
I’m not living in Ireland now, but I find the panic about the MUP a bit much. If your drinking is within reasonable limits, it’s fine. As far as I know, price increases do decrease levels of substance abuse, although obviously it’s not a magic bullet.
I have a bigger issue with the fact that the extra money is going mostly to the retailer, rather than as a straight tax to the government (if I understood it correctly). That’s crazy to me, it’s like the opposite of what a government should do.
It’s like they really really want people to emigrate
Quite tragic seeing irish people creating more drama due to alcohol prices than everything happening for past 3 years. Not surprising though
Far too much of the argument against MUP has been whether it impacts alcoholics, more focus should be how it denies adults personal liberty
How high can the misery meter go up
Far too much of the argument against MUP has been whether it impacts alcoholics, more focus should be how it denies adults personal liberty
Anyone up for organizing a protest on Saturday against MUP?
I like Northern Irish alcohol 😉