And the cracks continue to widen. Now the question is only when germany finally flips. Once that happens, thats the whole EU turning around on Israels response isnt it?
I’m sure the comments on this page will be totally respectful and not at all veer into islamophobia or antisemitism.
So what Izrael response should be? Macron is a 🤡 who cant even deal with terrorist inside his country
Did hamas surrender, no.
Did they release the hostages, no.
Some pretty clear objectives.
‘It’s impossible to eradicate hamas’. Somebody should tell the same to hamas: trying to eradicate israel is impossible and will only lead to their own destruction.
Urban fighting destroys cities. Do you want to see Berlin in 45. Nagasaki, Tokyo… or parts off ukraine today?
To be fair what is going on, is israel showing how costly these terrorist attacks are. So that the people in charge will think twice before they start acting as barbarians again.
Is that just, for the people suffering right now, no. War rarely is.
Around 70% of palestinians supported the oktober attacks. So now they get to know if it was worth it. A very real example of fuck around and find out.
Hey guys, we can recognise both Hamas and Israel as bad without dehumanising the civilians on both sides, hope this helped 🙂
Hamas should surrender and give up the hostages 🤷♀️
Yes it is necessary to flatten gaza, eradicate hamas and others threatening them as much as possible.
Why, just get that poll in mind where over 75%(the reality is probably more than 90%) approved of Hamas killing of Israeli.
And they shouldn’t stop with Gaza, eradicate Hamas/Terrorists al over the World.
They woke up the Dragon…
The astroturfing in this sub is astonishing.
Macron is clearly being antisemitic here.
Israel has the right to commit war crimes because of Hamas.
That’s what I have learned after reading all the responses,
from all the totally legit accounts.
After Oct. 7th, Macron proposed to make a NATO-like coalition to fight Hamas. Does he think it would bring less destruction? Lmao
Emmanuel should mind his business and take care of his country. French people are not happy.
Macron shouldn’t go preaching about the correct way to fight terrorism when France seems to suffer a terror attack every few weeks and appears utterly incapable of preventing them.
People who live glass houses shouldn’t throw stones after all.
But that seaside real estate though
I still haven’t heard a single plausible alternative on how to eradicate Hamas, which most who are remotely rational agree needs to happen. People then call for a ceasefire but it’s silence after that. Israel rightly will never negotiate with a group that doesn’t recognise their existence, who has vowed to do everything they can to end it. The blockade will remain and Israel will continue to respond to threats in Gaza as they have for the last nearly 20 years. That has led to sometimes thousands of deaths a year. How is decades more of that better than this? At least this operation achieves something that might get them closer to peace.
The main thing I wish that Israel did that they aren’t is opening a field hospital to take the load off the hospitals in Gaza along with letting in more food, water and medical supplies. There isn’t really any downside to flooding Gaza with those items (well there is but that’s rather unsavoury).
Oh and the entire West needs to reject settlement expansion in the West Bank. That shit is unhinged and needs to stopped. Biden was right to start imposing visa bans on violent settlers. Israelis need to wake up to the damage it is doing to their own security from a purely pragmatic perspective let alone a moral one.
That’s rich, especially coming from the guy who can neither deal with the terrorist in his country nor knows how to deal with the Russians. He literally said (without any need that is) that France won’t trigger a nuclear response against Russia if Russia uses nukes in Europe as long as they are not directly hitting France. There was absolutely no reason to say that and it would’ve been better staying somewhat vague about this topic or not saying anything at all. This guy is a joke and everything he says should be take with a huge grain of salt.
I CANNOT believe most comments in this post. Falling prey to the US fallacies of the “war on terror”. Justifying a genocidal campaign. Most of them translate to “but they (civilians) deserve to die”. After all, it’s easy to justify killing when the other side is not human. We’ve done it before countless times.
Human rights EU… shame on us!
Stop supporting them you cretin
Yesterday, while toying with my phone, people warned me that I will break it if I continue, which eventually happened. But i said “it shouldn’t have been broken” and it got magically repaired.
“Fighting Nazism did not mean Allies had to flatten half of German cities.” Or perhaps it did if nothing short of unconditional surrender is acceptable and the enemy refuses to surrender. I think after 20 years of terror coming from Hamas in Gaza, seeking unconditional surrender is completely reasonable and acceptable by Israel.
Sort of crazy that amount of comments that are fine with violating rule of war, mass killing civilians, driving tens of millions from their homes, bombing hospitals, and the list goes on.
There is a scary level of “what else should they do?” going on – not massacre the civilian population maybe? If there is a hostage situation and the police show up, and kill 3 random bystanders to get to the hostage, do you think the police are doing a good job? Come on.
At least France is not deep in the bitch position like Germany is.
Shouldn’t he first stop the killing of french people in his country before he talks about other countries ?
Idk, kinda means exactly that if (officially) 37% of the population support the Hamas party, and about double that percentage want a one state solution.
I do not understand the notion that no one except official hamas “soldiers” are a problem here. they did not evolve the way they did because none of the civilians support them.
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And the cracks continue to widen. Now the question is only when germany finally flips. Once that happens, thats the whole EU turning around on Israels response isnt it?
I’m sure the comments on this page will be totally respectful and not at all veer into islamophobia or antisemitism.
So what Izrael response should be? Macron is a 🤡 who cant even deal with terrorist inside his country
Did hamas surrender, no.
Did they release the hostages, no.
Some pretty clear objectives.
‘It’s impossible to eradicate hamas’. Somebody should tell the same to hamas: trying to eradicate israel is impossible and will only lead to their own destruction.
Urban fighting destroys cities. Do you want to see Berlin in 45. Nagasaki, Tokyo… or parts off ukraine today?
To be fair what is going on, is israel showing how costly these terrorist attacks are. So that the people in charge will think twice before they start acting as barbarians again.
Is that just, for the people suffering right now, no. War rarely is.
Around 70% of palestinians supported the oktober attacks. So now they get to know if it was worth it. A very real example of fuck around and find out.
Hey guys, we can recognise both Hamas and Israel as bad without dehumanising the civilians on both sides, hope this helped 🙂
Hamas should surrender and give up the hostages 🤷♀️
Yes it is necessary to flatten gaza, eradicate hamas and others threatening them as much as possible.
Why, just get that poll in mind where over 75%(the reality is probably more than 90%) approved of Hamas killing of Israeli.
And they shouldn’t stop with Gaza, eradicate Hamas/Terrorists al over the World.
They woke up the Dragon…
The astroturfing in this sub is astonishing.
Macron is clearly being antisemitic here.
Israel has the right to commit war crimes because of Hamas.
That’s what I have learned after reading all the responses,
from all the totally legit accounts.
After Oct. 7th, Macron proposed to make a NATO-like coalition to fight Hamas. Does he think it would bring less destruction? Lmao
Emmanuel should mind his business and take care of his country. French people are not happy.
Macron shouldn’t go preaching about the correct way to fight terrorism when France seems to suffer a terror attack every few weeks and appears utterly incapable of preventing them.
People who live glass houses shouldn’t throw stones after all.
But that seaside real estate though
I still haven’t heard a single plausible alternative on how to eradicate Hamas, which most who are remotely rational agree needs to happen. People then call for a ceasefire but it’s silence after that. Israel rightly will never negotiate with a group that doesn’t recognise their existence, who has vowed to do everything they can to end it. The blockade will remain and Israel will continue to respond to threats in Gaza as they have for the last nearly 20 years. That has led to sometimes thousands of deaths a year. How is decades more of that better than this? At least this operation achieves something that might get them closer to peace.
The main thing I wish that Israel did that they aren’t is opening a field hospital to take the load off the hospitals in Gaza along with letting in more food, water and medical supplies. There isn’t really any downside to flooding Gaza with those items (well there is but that’s rather unsavoury).
Oh and the entire West needs to reject settlement expansion in the West Bank. That shit is unhinged and needs to stopped. Biden was right to start imposing visa bans on violent settlers. Israelis need to wake up to the damage it is doing to their own security from a purely pragmatic perspective let alone a moral one.
That’s rich, especially coming from the guy who can neither deal with the terrorist in his country nor knows how to deal with the Russians. He literally said (without any need that is) that France won’t trigger a nuclear response against Russia if Russia uses nukes in Europe as long as they are not directly hitting France. There was absolutely no reason to say that and it would’ve been better staying somewhat vague about this topic or not saying anything at all. This guy is a joke and everything he says should be take with a huge grain of salt.
I CANNOT believe most comments in this post. Falling prey to the US fallacies of the “war on terror”. Justifying a genocidal campaign. Most of them translate to “but they (civilians) deserve to die”. After all, it’s easy to justify killing when the other side is not human. We’ve done it before countless times.
Human rights EU… shame on us!
Stop supporting them you cretin
Yesterday, while toying with my phone, people warned me that I will break it if I continue, which eventually happened. But i said “it shouldn’t have been broken” and it got magically repaired.
“Fighting Nazism did not mean Allies had to flatten half of German cities.” Or perhaps it did if nothing short of unconditional surrender is acceptable and the enemy refuses to surrender. I think after 20 years of terror coming from Hamas in Gaza, seeking unconditional surrender is completely reasonable and acceptable by Israel.
Sort of crazy that amount of comments that are fine with violating rule of war, mass killing civilians, driving tens of millions from their homes, bombing hospitals, and the list goes on.
There is a scary level of “what else should they do?” going on – not massacre the civilian population maybe? If there is a hostage situation and the police show up, and kill 3 random bystanders to get to the hostage, do you think the police are doing a good job? Come on.
At least France is not deep in the bitch position like Germany is.
Shouldn’t he first stop the killing of french people in his country before he talks about other countries ?
Idk, kinda means exactly that if (officially) 37% of the population support the Hamas party, and about double that percentage want a one state solution.
I do not understand the notion that no one except official hamas “soldiers” are a problem here. they did not evolve the way they did because none of the civilians support them.
I mean,
He’s not wrong