This is about flight hours and flight maintenance.
Unlike a building, an aircraft requires M insane amount of maintenance.
There are laws regarding sale, transfer and export of military equipment. It’s not as simple as just giving stuff away.
For reference, the NH90 helicopter has issues. Norway actually returned all of the NH90s they had and demanded a refund. Sweden and Belgium are both planning to partially retire their NH90 fleets.
This helicopter is an albatross with extremely high maintenance costs which would take way too large a chunk of the foreign aid funds for Ukraine to keep it flying– That foreign aid can be better utilized in acquiring other more reliable systems for Ukraine.
Yeah it probably boils down to maintenance.
Parts availability, training for mechanics etc.
Sadly it’s not just a case of handing things over.
Because they fucking *suck*. Seriously, it’d be a better idea to donate them to Russia, that should give you an idea of how much of a disaster they’ve been.
We are supposed to be aiding Ukraine… not giving them those things 😀
The dam things keep falling out of the sky, give them to the Russian’s. 
Didn’t we lose two of them not so far apart? They have issues.
Have you ever thought of how Ukraine would maintain those helicopters? Establishing functioning logistics support? Getting available spare parts for them? Plan B to acquire components no longer manufactured?
Military hardwares are not an outdated lawnmower you can just give away to your nextdoor neighbor and forget. Besides, NH-90(at least the early models) had several critical flaws that directly affected its combat readiness, like vulnerable rampdoor and compressor oil cooler issues.
IIRC the helicopters were plagued with maintenence issues for the longest times
Australian here
Trust me, they’re better off in Russian hands.
The continuous cries to just “give ___ to Ukraine” are very tiresome. It’s like the appeal to give regular, *non-super* Tucanos to Ukraine early on; yes, let’s send an unarmed propeller driven plane into a war fought by jets and drones.
These helicopters aren’t in *perfect condition* or else they wouldn’t be being scrapped. There has to be *an* issue making them more of a burden than a benefit.
You wanna look for a nation that could potentially send helicopters to Ukraine? Start begging Japan to transfer their rotorcraft fleet as it begins transferring to drones. It’s not going to happen for another 2-3 years, potentially at that point being post-war, but it could net Ukraine some decent helicopters *and logistical support for them due to interoperability* in the long term.
Because they killed our men. As much as I’d like to give Ukraine helicopters, Taipans are not going anywhere near
I don’t know how useful they’d be. They have serious problems
Seriously if we gave these to Ukraine they would be one of Russia’s best assets. And fuck Russia.
Earlier this year there was an incident in the northern part of Australia where one crashed and the whole crew died at sea
Dont think you want this. They are team kill generators here in Australia, and we are at peacetime!
We are getting rid of them because they keep falling out of the sky, this is in peacetime and you don’t give bad shit to your friend.
I am ok with giving them to Ukraine so they can turn them into flying bombs on a one way trip to Moscow….if they make it that far.
A crappy helicopter still can carry more grenades than a little drone.
Ukrainians sure could figure something out to turn them into UAVs?
Because we have idiots running Australia with no brains.
Make them into one way helidrones, i am Aussie and yes these suck hard but could be useful in Ukraine.
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unbelievable. Come Australia give them to Ukrain.
This is about flight hours and flight maintenance.
Unlike a building, an aircraft requires M insane amount of maintenance.
There are laws regarding sale, transfer and export of military equipment. It’s not as simple as just giving stuff away.
For reference, the NH90 helicopter has issues. Norway actually returned all of the NH90s they had and demanded a refund. Sweden and Belgium are both planning to partially retire their NH90 fleets.
This helicopter is an albatross with extremely high maintenance costs which would take way too large a chunk of the foreign aid funds for Ukraine to keep it flying– That foreign aid can be better utilized in acquiring other more reliable systems for Ukraine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHIndustries_NH90
Yeah it probably boils down to maintenance.
Parts availability, training for mechanics etc.
Sadly it’s not just a case of handing things over.
Because they fucking *suck*. Seriously, it’d be a better idea to donate them to Russia, that should give you an idea of how much of a disaster they’ve been.
We are supposed to be aiding Ukraine… not giving them those things 😀
The dam things keep falling out of the sky, give them to the Russian’s. 
Didn’t we lose two of them not so far apart? They have issues.
Have you ever thought of how Ukraine would maintain those helicopters? Establishing functioning logistics support? Getting available spare parts for them? Plan B to acquire components no longer manufactured?
Military hardwares are not an outdated lawnmower you can just give away to your nextdoor neighbor and forget. Besides, NH-90(at least the early models) had several critical flaws that directly affected its combat readiness, like vulnerable rampdoor and compressor oil cooler issues.
IIRC the helicopters were plagued with maintenence issues for the longest times
Australian here
Trust me, they’re better off in Russian hands.
The continuous cries to just “give ___ to Ukraine” are very tiresome. It’s like the appeal to give regular, *non-super* Tucanos to Ukraine early on; yes, let’s send an unarmed propeller driven plane into a war fought by jets and drones.
These helicopters aren’t in *perfect condition* or else they wouldn’t be being scrapped. There has to be *an* issue making them more of a burden than a benefit.
You wanna look for a nation that could potentially send helicopters to Ukraine? Start begging Japan to transfer their rotorcraft fleet as it begins transferring to drones. It’s not going to happen for another 2-3 years, potentially at that point being post-war, but it could net Ukraine some decent helicopters *and logistical support for them due to interoperability* in the long term.
Because they killed our men. As much as I’d like to give Ukraine helicopters, Taipans are not going anywhere near
I don’t know how useful they’d be. They have serious problems
Seriously if we gave these to Ukraine they would be one of Russia’s best assets. And fuck Russia.
Earlier this year there was an incident in the northern part of Australia where one crashed and the whole crew died at sea
Dont think you want this. They are team kill generators here in Australia, and we are at peacetime!
We are getting rid of them because they keep falling out of the sky, this is in peacetime and you don’t give bad shit to your friend.
I am ok with giving them to Ukraine so they can turn them into flying bombs on a one way trip to Moscow….if they make it that far.
A crappy helicopter still can carry more grenades than a little drone.
Ukrainians sure could figure something out to turn them into UAVs?
Because we have idiots running Australia with no brains.
Make them into one way helidrones, i am Aussie and yes these suck hard but could be useful in Ukraine.