NCAs are terrible. It allows the employer to abuse the employee without compensation or to prevent the employee from being bale to negotiate better terms of employment.
It is basically indentured servitude.
Source: Once in my career I was hired by a start up who never told me there was an NCA as a term of employment. I accepted the original offer and quit my prior job. Day one the NCA was forced on me. The job was misrepresented and I decided to leave so they told me I couldn’t do my line of work in any form with anyone they “deemed” an issue. Seems almost every company was an issue since they wanted to do business with all many of the companies in the area.
I luckily had a friend who was a corporate lawyer who wrote them a nice letter regarding how we would be more than happy to take this to court and sue for denying me my means of livelihood. I kept my sign on bonus and walk into a new job I lined up, but I was lucky because most people would have to hire a lawyer and it costs money and time.
NCAs are used as threats and punishment. They prevent you from leaving to get a better job and gives the employer leverage to deny wage increases and suck your leverage away. It gives companies the ability to deny to offering monetary incentives and employee treatment. They serve no purpose and in fact are anti-capitalist.
Not even pretending she’s not in Wall Street’s pocket.
“I love the free market!”
“So you think it is important for labor should be able to change jobs without unnecessary restriction to ensure that the most desirable employees can go to the most competitive companies?”
“Well, no.”
This asshole.
Roald Dahl villainy. And hair and makeup.
That’s not very cash money of you
I thought I had a pretty clear understanding of, and support for, these agreements. Then I read that Jimmy John sandwich people were required to sign them? BS!
Im sorry but this woman is a Republican looking out for the donor class first and foremost
Maybe someone will enforce this on the wrong person and then have they’re hand’s beaten off will a ball hammer.
Well damn what a piece of garbage
When people make the “both sides” argument, this is who they’re talking about.
Well it’s not like Lee Zeldin would have supported this, but we can try for a better Democrat.
Between her and Adams in NYC, New Yorks primary season is gonna be crazy
Man- after hearing people say ‘vote blue no matter who’ the last few years, living in NY has left me jaded as hell.
“You are not allowed to go to another place that will pay you more, this helps your owners in giant corporation X not have to pay you what you are worth. Submit peasant”
Something something about what the market will bear should be what the price is…….
“Nope, that’s just for wealthy people, kneel serf!”
This is way more important than the culture war garbage that fills this subreddit. Non-competes are bad for workers and bad for the economy.
One of the main reasons California is so successful is banning them.
What a joke!
If you haven’t figured out that the government does not represent the average person and only represents the top 10% of the wealthiest citizens, you haven’t figured out what’s wrong with the country.
“You get to be a wage slave! And you get to be a wage slave! Everyone look under your chairs! You all get to be wage slaves!”
Speaking as someone who’s underpaid and the subject of an NCA, that’s super fucked up.
Non-competes are the most anti-worker shit so of course, it’s going to take forever to repeal.
Perpetually disappointed by New York politicians
Is there actually a possible middle ground or is she just vetoing it because of Wall Street and is making excuses? Also, kinda funny that she’s okay with creating a reparations task force, which is completely unrealistic but vetoes this bill that could have led to tangible benefits for working class people. Weird priorities.
What’s her problem?
New York Dems, what are you doing?
Worst New York governor in my lifetime. And I’m a lifelong Democrat.
Anyone know if there’s any hope of the legislature overcoming the veto??
New York Dems sure are something else
Non-compete agreements are basically “you can treat me like shit because if I lose this job I can’t make a living”. Add to that the “you can treat me like shit because if I leave this job in X years, I owe you thousands and thousands for the bogus training you cobbled together”, and you are effectively a wage slave.
Dems do shit like this and then wonder why everyone hates them lol it’s so exhausting how the politicians we get elected are truly never acting in the interest of their constituents. Conservatives are fucking awful but there’s a reason their base has is so ingrained, their politicians actually do the shit they want them to do.
“…called the bill “a one-size-fits-all-approach” for New York companies legitimately trying to retain top talent.”
Why isn’t compensation the key to retain top talent, rather than some arbitrary period of professional hibernation?
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NCAs are terrible. It allows the employer to abuse the employee without compensation or to prevent the employee from being bale to negotiate better terms of employment.
It is basically indentured servitude.
Source: Once in my career I was hired by a start up who never told me there was an NCA as a term of employment. I accepted the original offer and quit my prior job. Day one the NCA was forced on me. The job was misrepresented and I decided to leave so they told me I couldn’t do my line of work in any form with anyone they “deemed” an issue. Seems almost every company was an issue since they wanted to do business with all many of the companies in the area.
I luckily had a friend who was a corporate lawyer who wrote them a nice letter regarding how we would be more than happy to take this to court and sue for denying me my means of livelihood. I kept my sign on bonus and walk into a new job I lined up, but I was lucky because most people would have to hire a lawyer and it costs money and time.
NCAs are used as threats and punishment. They prevent you from leaving to get a better job and gives the employer leverage to deny wage increases and suck your leverage away. It gives companies the ability to deny to offering monetary incentives and employee treatment. They serve no purpose and in fact are anti-capitalist.
Not even pretending she’s not in Wall Street’s pocket.
“I love the free market!”
“So you think it is important for labor should be able to change jobs without unnecessary restriction to ensure that the most desirable employees can go to the most competitive companies?”
“Well, no.”
This asshole.
Roald Dahl villainy. And hair and makeup.
That’s not very cash money of you
I thought I had a pretty clear understanding of, and support for, these agreements. Then I read that Jimmy John sandwich people were required to sign them? BS!
Im sorry but this woman is a Republican looking out for the donor class first and foremost
Maybe someone will enforce this on the wrong person and then have they’re hand’s beaten off will a ball hammer.
Well damn what a piece of garbage
When people make the “both sides” argument, this is who they’re talking about.
Well it’s not like Lee Zeldin would have supported this, but we can try for a better Democrat.
Between her and Adams in NYC, New Yorks primary season is gonna be crazy
Man- after hearing people say ‘vote blue no matter who’ the last few years, living in NY has left me jaded as hell.
“You are not allowed to go to another place that will pay you more, this helps your owners in giant corporation X not have to pay you what you are worth. Submit peasant”
Something something about what the market will bear should be what the price is…….
“Nope, that’s just for wealthy people, kneel serf!”
This is way more important than the culture war garbage that fills this subreddit. Non-competes are bad for workers and bad for the economy.
One of the main reasons California is so successful is banning them.
What a joke!
If you haven’t figured out that the government does not represent the average person and only represents the top 10% of the wealthiest citizens, you haven’t figured out what’s wrong with the country.
Vote blue no matter who! /s
Hochul is about as shit as Cuomo. In this same session she also [vetoed a bill that would allow one to challenge a conviction with evidence other than DNA.](https://apnews.com/article/new-york-guilty-pleas-challenges-bill-8597ae74b6b40419054272b072a5c472) Also let’s remember how she went out of her way to [cripple the right-to-repair law](https://www.techdirt.com/2023/02/17/more-details-on-how-tech-lobbyists-lobotomized-nys-right-to-repair-law-with-governor-kathy-hochuls-help/) for her political donors at the literal last moment, passing a “right-to-repair” law in-name only. Actual scumbag politician.
“You get to be a wage slave! And you get to be a wage slave! Everyone look under your chairs! You all get to be wage slaves!”
Speaking as someone who’s underpaid and the subject of an NCA, that’s super fucked up.
Non-competes are the most anti-worker shit so of course, it’s going to take forever to repeal.
Perpetually disappointed by New York politicians
Is there actually a possible middle ground or is she just vetoing it because of Wall Street and is making excuses? Also, kinda funny that she’s okay with creating a reparations task force, which is completely unrealistic but vetoes this bill that could have led to tangible benefits for working class people. Weird priorities.
What’s her problem?
New York Dems, what are you doing?
Worst New York governor in my lifetime. And I’m a lifelong Democrat.
Anyone know if there’s any hope of the legislature overcoming the veto??
New York Dems sure are something else
Non-compete agreements are basically “you can treat me like shit because if I lose this job I can’t make a living”. Add to that the “you can treat me like shit because if I leave this job in X years, I owe you thousands and thousands for the bogus training you cobbled together”, and you are effectively a wage slave.
Dems do shit like this and then wonder why everyone hates them lol it’s so exhausting how the politicians we get elected are truly never acting in the interest of their constituents. Conservatives are fucking awful but there’s a reason their base has is so ingrained, their politicians actually do the shit they want them to do.
“…called the bill “a one-size-fits-all-approach” for New York companies legitimately trying to retain top talent.”
Why isn’t compensation the key to retain top talent, rather than some arbitrary period of professional hibernation?
This needs to be national.
Dems need to win both chambers next year.