> George Eustice insists UK farmers are better off since Brexit.
It used to be a big deal when a government minister lied.
All the better for Tory donors to buy up their land I guess. It’s all going to plan.
I don’t understand how wales and farmers, who were guaranteed income from schemes like the Eu development fund and CAP decided to vote out under a Tory government ?
A Tory government that champions austerity and ‘the big society’
A Tory government that said they wanted to reduce the government size to that of the early 20th century
What did they expect???
Massive mega farms are on the way to a countryside near you, they’ll probably be run by foreign companies with a little bit of that cash making it back into a Tory ministers back pocket, the party coffers or in kind with directorships and places on the board. It’s the Tory way.
An island state deciding to rely even more heavily on food imports. What can possibly go wrong?
Nobody could have predicted this, absolutely nobody, out of nowhere it came. Total shock!
How could a “leave voting” farmer not see the consequences of their actions.
Obviously its not just their voting causing this.
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oh no they’ll have to sell their assets for rock bottom prices to corporate entites with large amounts of special private money.
Actual farmer here, I receive about £26,000 a year of subsidy for not really doing anything, we’re tenants but the farm we rent is worth £1.5-2 million, if we weren’t renting it the landowner would receive that. How is that right? That’s was the scheme of CAP managed by the EU.
The new scheme will see me earning slightly less about £20,000 a year, and for that I need to provide public good, through habitat creation or promoting public access.
There will be winners and losers in this but there has to be some attrition in farming as the average age is 59. A few less older farmers will give younger more forward thinking farmers myself an opportunity to expand.
Of all the things wrong and right with Brexit. The changes to farming policy are probably the best, don’t let the big institutional landowners and vested interests like the NFU convince you otherwise.
City investors feel that nice warm glow and smile inwardly as they wait….
They don’t need that cash. They can sell us the goods and (add brexit logic here)
Brexit dividends! Maybe we should all clap for our farmers, that might help them?
Well, they knew what they voted for, or so I have been told. You won, get over it.
The farmer who lives opposite my parents has been harassing them, watching them and vandalising the house for years. I hope he suffers the worst from this
This is Brexit. The only winners are the Tories and their chums. The rest of us are just collateral damage.
Hang on, so we cut ourselves off from a large market with lots of food then start shitting on the guys that will keep us fed?
Brexit – the UK belief that immigration was the reason the country is fucked.
Weirdly, the tories have been in charge and still are and it’s still as fucked. Wonder if that’s the issue 🤔
Farmers go bust. Farms are bought up by Tory friends and donors.
Then the planning rules are changed and many of those fields are turned into housing estates……
Brexit was always marketed on the basis of new opportunities and it’s completely true. If you have personal connections within the Tory inner circle, you can make a mint out of it!
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“No, really, I’m stuffed. I couldn’t eat another one.”
-A. Leopard
Farmer from Wales here. For context we have 340 acres of hill farm and 34 acres of lowland pasture. Beef and lamb producers. Our industry has taken a hammering over the years and continues to do so.
In particular the Welsh assembly has done more harm to us than good. The rules involving TB testing, movement restrictions,which after years they are no further along in getting any kind of solution,there have been shifts and cuts in subsidy for us hill farmers. Couple that with meteoric rises in fuel,feed and fertilizer costs,it’s becoming nearly impossible to make a living.
There is an active push to create more and more feed lot style farms or industrial units. We have seen a small rise in carcass prices but no where near the inflated rises in our costs. I have to work two jobs to make a living.I’ve actively discouraged my kids to find different careers because I can’t see a future in our type of farming.
It’s precisely what many of these farmers planned and absolutely what they wanted to happen to themselves.
I’m talking about the ones that voted for Brexit. They were warned of economic stuff like this before the vote, they voted for it, it happened. So they wanted this.
What’s the alternative? The people that voted for Brexit didn’t know what the fuck they were doing and shouldn’t ever be listened to because they fail at their own hands and those morons are dragging everyone else down with them because they’re as thick as pig shit?
No.
That’s just insulting and probably some reaction to pRoJeCt FeAr or something. I’m never going to say they’re fucking morons that have no clue what they’re doing as they head to calamity through their not-thought-out choices. That’s just insulting. Better to say that they voted for it because they were the ones that knew what they were talking about. Which means they knew this would happen to them. Which means they wanted this to happen to them.
They fucking love it. In fact, they won so everyone should just get over it.
Oh no, who could have predicted this? Not the farmers who overwhelmingly voted Brexit. Enjoy lads!
That’s odd as I live in a very rural, farming area and the two local farmers around us both drive around in £60k Range Rovers and also have at least a couple pickups north of £45k. I can’t see much suffering going on there.
I’ve been buying a lot more French cheese since Brexit. It tastes a lot less bitter than anything produced by Brexit voting farmers.
Arable Farmer here, my family farms 500 acres of land, we were receiving roughly £25k before the government started withdrawing funding and this will decrease every year until 2027 I believe when it completely gets scrapped.
The funding withdrawal started before Brexit and was always going to happen, there were two main tiers of EU funding in the UK and the main part was for research, conservation and the environment and the smaller part was for paying farmers to achieve these things.
The eu subsidy program was the worst thing to happen to uk farmers, it supported landowners and poor farming practices and allowed supermarkets to squeeze the producer and force them to rely on government funding.
It’s sad to see most of these comments attacking farmers. Most of the people commentating are actually talking about the large landowners and speculators that never actually work on the land and see farming as an easy way to avoid taxes, these people are not farmers! They are leeches on our corrupt system. The true farmers are too busy working all year round to make ends meet just like any other common man in this country while being squeezed by the government for all we are worth.
It will be a tough few years in farming as it has been for a while but we are hard to finish off because most will take these heavy punches just for the chance of our families legacy continuing.
The number of anecdotal “I know a farmer” or “my neighbour was a farmer” posts is just absurd. 9/10 people here shouldn’t have the right to an opinion on this.
Living in Kent, I doubt there’s a farm that wasn’t advertising leave or the Tories in the last twenty years. They knew what they were getting
I hope we transition far away from the unsustainable practices of animal agriculture. There really is no question that a plant-based diet is better for the environment.
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I feel sorry for the minority who [didn’t vote for it](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S074301671930436X). For the majority, well…you reap what you sow.
> George Eustice insists UK farmers are better off since Brexit.
It used to be a big deal when a government minister lied.
All the better for Tory donors to buy up their land I guess. It’s all going to plan.
I don’t understand how wales and farmers, who were guaranteed income from schemes like the Eu development fund and CAP decided to vote out under a Tory government ?
A Tory government that champions austerity and ‘the big society’
A Tory government that said they wanted to reduce the government size to that of the early 20th century
What did they expect???
Massive mega farms are on the way to a countryside near you, they’ll probably be run by foreign companies with a little bit of that cash making it back into a Tory ministers back pocket, the party coffers or in kind with directorships and places on the board. It’s the Tory way.
An island state deciding to rely even more heavily on food imports. What can possibly go wrong?
Nobody could have predicted this, absolutely nobody, out of nowhere it came. Total shock!
How could a “leave voting” farmer not see the consequences of their actions.
Obviously its not just their voting causing this.
[removed]
oh no they’ll have to sell their assets for rock bottom prices to corporate entites with large amounts of special private money.
Actual farmer here, I receive about £26,000 a year of subsidy for not really doing anything, we’re tenants but the farm we rent is worth £1.5-2 million, if we weren’t renting it the landowner would receive that. How is that right? That’s was the scheme of CAP managed by the EU.
The new scheme will see me earning slightly less about £20,000 a year, and for that I need to provide public good, through habitat creation or promoting public access.
There will be winners and losers in this but there has to be some attrition in farming as the average age is 59. A few less older farmers will give younger more forward thinking farmers myself an opportunity to expand.
Of all the things wrong and right with Brexit. The changes to farming policy are probably the best, don’t let the big institutional landowners and vested interests like the NFU convince you otherwise.
City investors feel that nice warm glow and smile inwardly as they wait….
They don’t need that cash. They can sell us the goods and (add brexit logic here)
Brexit dividends! Maybe we should all clap for our farmers, that might help them?
Well, they knew what they voted for, or so I have been told. You won, get over it.
The farmer who lives opposite my parents has been harassing them, watching them and vandalising the house for years. I hope he suffers the worst from this
This is Brexit. The only winners are the Tories and their chums. The rest of us are just collateral damage.
Hang on, so we cut ourselves off from a large market with lots of food then start shitting on the guys that will keep us fed?
Brexit – the UK belief that immigration was the reason the country is fucked.
Weirdly, the tories have been in charge and still are and it’s still as fucked. Wonder if that’s the issue 🤔
Farmers go bust. Farms are bought up by Tory friends and donors.
Then the planning rules are changed and many of those fields are turned into housing estates……
Brexit was always marketed on the basis of new opportunities and it’s completely true. If you have personal connections within the Tory inner circle, you can make a mint out of it!
[deleted]
“No, really, I’m stuffed. I couldn’t eat another one.”
-A. Leopard
Farmer from Wales here. For context we have 340 acres of hill farm and 34 acres of lowland pasture. Beef and lamb producers. Our industry has taken a hammering over the years and continues to do so.
In particular the Welsh assembly has done more harm to us than good. The rules involving TB testing, movement restrictions,which after years they are no further along in getting any kind of solution,there have been shifts and cuts in subsidy for us hill farmers. Couple that with meteoric rises in fuel,feed and fertilizer costs,it’s becoming nearly impossible to make a living.
There is an active push to create more and more feed lot style farms or industrial units. We have seen a small rise in carcass prices but no where near the inflated rises in our costs. I have to work two jobs to make a living.I’ve actively discouraged my kids to find different careers because I can’t see a future in our type of farming.
It’s precisely what many of these farmers planned and absolutely what they wanted to happen to themselves.
I’m talking about the ones that voted for Brexit. They were warned of economic stuff like this before the vote, they voted for it, it happened. So they wanted this.
What’s the alternative? The people that voted for Brexit didn’t know what the fuck they were doing and shouldn’t ever be listened to because they fail at their own hands and those morons are dragging everyone else down with them because they’re as thick as pig shit?
No.
That’s just insulting and probably some reaction to pRoJeCt FeAr or something. I’m never going to say they’re fucking morons that have no clue what they’re doing as they head to calamity through their not-thought-out choices. That’s just insulting. Better to say that they voted for it because they were the ones that knew what they were talking about. Which means they knew this would happen to them. Which means they wanted this to happen to them.
They fucking love it. In fact, they won so everyone should just get over it.
Oh no, who could have predicted this? Not the farmers who overwhelmingly voted Brexit. Enjoy lads!
That’s odd as I live in a very rural, farming area and the two local farmers around us both drive around in £60k Range Rovers and also have at least a couple pickups north of £45k. I can’t see much suffering going on there.
I’ve been buying a lot more French cheese since Brexit. It tastes a lot less bitter than anything produced by Brexit voting farmers.
Arable Farmer here, my family farms 500 acres of land, we were receiving roughly £25k before the government started withdrawing funding and this will decrease every year until 2027 I believe when it completely gets scrapped.
The funding withdrawal started before Brexit and was always going to happen, there were two main tiers of EU funding in the UK and the main part was for research, conservation and the environment and the smaller part was for paying farmers to achieve these things.
The eu subsidy program was the worst thing to happen to uk farmers, it supported landowners and poor farming practices and allowed supermarkets to squeeze the producer and force them to rely on government funding.
It’s sad to see most of these comments attacking farmers. Most of the people commentating are actually talking about the large landowners and speculators that never actually work on the land and see farming as an easy way to avoid taxes, these people are not farmers! They are leeches on our corrupt system. The true farmers are too busy working all year round to make ends meet just like any other common man in this country while being squeezed by the government for all we are worth.
It will be a tough few years in farming as it has been for a while but we are hard to finish off because most will take these heavy punches just for the chance of our families legacy continuing.
The number of anecdotal “I know a farmer” or “my neighbour was a farmer” posts is just absurd. 9/10 people here shouldn’t have the right to an opinion on this.
Living in Kent, I doubt there’s a farm that wasn’t advertising leave or the Tories in the last twenty years. They knew what they were getting
I hope we transition far away from the unsustainable practices of animal agriculture. There really is no question that a plant-based diet is better for the environment.