So he’s lived here for nearly 30 years and never bothered to get a passport? Instead he gets into drug dealing. Don’t let the door hit you on your way out, mate.
Moral of this story… Before doing something dodgy, you’d better go check your parents birth certificates !!!
Brexit Benefits…
I don’t understand why someone in this position (born here, has been an adult for a while, considers themselves completely British) doesn’t actually get citizenship.
Should of used your drug money to get a passport. Come on.
The guy is 100% British and should never face deportation, regardless of his occupation.
The punishment may well make people think twice about carrying weapons and drug pushing. Born and bred isn’t a defence.
Presumably only the home secretary could grant citizenship and none would, regardless of party for fear of backlash for granting citizenship to a drug dealer.
I don’t think people here are aware of how detrimental this is for the man. It seems like he doesn’t have Portuguese citizenship either, so if he’s deported, i.e have his British citizenship right stripped away, he’ll be stateless forever. Stateless people can’t access jobs/housings/benefits the same way most people do. His life will be done and dusted if deported. He should complete his sentence, like any other British citizen would.
He served his time. No point in flinging him to a country where he can’t speak the language.
Reminder that ‘British born’ doesn’t mean ‘British person’. We’re not the yanks. We don’t do the whole ‘Anyone born on our soil, is our people’ stuff.
>after serving a prison sentence for drugs offences and for carrying a Taser.
Tasers are classed as a section 1 firearm in the UK.
So this should read ‘Drug and firearms offenses’..
Hard to feel too sorry for him, tbh. I wish we could just deport all our British criminals. Just so happens due to a bit of a loophole, we actually can with this fella.
Bye!
Be a contributing memeber of society next time 🙂
I expect more situations like this, including with people with no or tenuous links to foreign countries and people not convicted for crimes, very soon.
The Guardian curiously leaves out the important bit from the headline about him committing drug offences and carrying a taser…
Not to say that he should be deported, obviously not, but this is a very selective headline
‘Lima was convicted on two counts of possession with intent to supply a class A drug and for possession of a prohibited weapon in August 2020’
The people knew what they were voting for. Sending Brits to a random foreign country after the government has spent lots of legal fees. That’s freedom
This government will do everything except actually deport the illegal immigrants arriving in the tens of thousands every year on rubber dinghie (rapids)
He’s probably better off leaving the country anyway.
Its interesting that people are happy with a “deport the criminals” attitude and don’t seem to appreciate that this policy is likely to be reciprocated if it ramps up too much.
How many scumbags with British citizenship or, even worse just a British parent but never having had any association with Britain, are lingering jail cells in Spain, Portugal, the US, Canada, New Zealand or Australia?
Tread lightly.
Honestly anyone born in a country who lives there until a certain age (certainly by adulthood) – regardless of parentage – should be be a citizen. Even the U.S. does this, without the age requirement
Is the government trying to close off legal loopholes (and somehow use him as a example here) or is it just being a massive tool here?
I don’t quite understand how this is a thing for them to pursue?
Sunak’s broken the law as well, can he be deported to the US where he had a green card?
Yeah but… It’s getting close to “man gets gifted asylum”
So first the Guardian want to generate outrage the italian who never applied for citizenship.
Now its the criminal with dual citizenship and deportation options.
What a rag, must be coming up election time…
Can someone explain this to me? He was born here, but never applied for British passport, so that means he doesn’t have citizenship? If he was born here he still had to actively apply for citizenship? I was born in the UK to non-British (at the time) parents and never faced this hurdle.
I think any adult who’s spend the majority of their life in this country should automatically be granted citizenship. They’re more british than anything else. Criminal or not we’re the ones that have raised them and they are our problem when they fuck up
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So he’s lived here for nearly 30 years and never bothered to get a passport? Instead he gets into drug dealing. Don’t let the door hit you on your way out, mate.
Moral of this story… Before doing something dodgy, you’d better go check your parents birth certificates !!!
Brexit Benefits…
I don’t understand why someone in this position (born here, has been an adult for a while, considers themselves completely British) doesn’t actually get citizenship.
Should of used your drug money to get a passport. Come on.
The guy is 100% British and should never face deportation, regardless of his occupation.
The punishment may well make people think twice about carrying weapons and drug pushing. Born and bred isn’t a defence.
Presumably only the home secretary could grant citizenship and none would, regardless of party for fear of backlash for granting citizenship to a drug dealer.
I don’t think people here are aware of how detrimental this is for the man. It seems like he doesn’t have Portuguese citizenship either, so if he’s deported, i.e have his British citizenship right stripped away, he’ll be stateless forever. Stateless people can’t access jobs/housings/benefits the same way most people do. His life will be done and dusted if deported. He should complete his sentence, like any other British citizen would.
He served his time. No point in flinging him to a country where he can’t speak the language.
Reminder that ‘British born’ doesn’t mean ‘British person’. We’re not the yanks. We don’t do the whole ‘Anyone born on our soil, is our people’ stuff.
>after serving a prison sentence for drugs offences and for carrying a Taser.
Tasers are classed as a section 1 firearm in the UK.
So this should read ‘Drug and firearms offenses’..
Hard to feel too sorry for him, tbh. I wish we could just deport all our British criminals. Just so happens due to a bit of a loophole, we actually can with this fella.
Bye!
Be a contributing memeber of society next time 🙂
I expect more situations like this, including with people with no or tenuous links to foreign countries and people not convicted for crimes, very soon.
The Guardian curiously leaves out the important bit from the headline about him committing drug offences and carrying a taser…
Not to say that he should be deported, obviously not, but this is a very selective headline
‘Lima was convicted on two counts of possession with intent to supply a class A drug and for possession of a prohibited weapon in August 2020’
The people knew what they were voting for. Sending Brits to a random foreign country after the government has spent lots of legal fees. That’s freedom
This government will do everything except actually deport the illegal immigrants arriving in the tens of thousands every year on rubber dinghie (rapids)
He’s probably better off leaving the country anyway.
Its interesting that people are happy with a “deport the criminals” attitude and don’t seem to appreciate that this policy is likely to be reciprocated if it ramps up too much.
How many scumbags with British citizenship or, even worse just a British parent but never having had any association with Britain, are lingering jail cells in Spain, Portugal, the US, Canada, New Zealand or Australia?
Tread lightly.
Honestly anyone born in a country who lives there until a certain age (certainly by adulthood) – regardless of parentage – should be be a citizen. Even the U.S. does this, without the age requirement
Is the government trying to close off legal loopholes (and somehow use him as a example here) or is it just being a massive tool here?
I don’t quite understand how this is a thing for them to pursue?
Sunak’s broken the law as well, can he be deported to the US where he had a green card?
Yeah but… It’s getting close to “man gets gifted asylum”
So first the Guardian want to generate outrage the italian who never applied for citizenship.
Now its the criminal with dual citizenship and deportation options.
What a rag, must be coming up election time…
Can someone explain this to me? He was born here, but never applied for British passport, so that means he doesn’t have citizenship? If he was born here he still had to actively apply for citizenship? I was born in the UK to non-British (at the time) parents and never faced this hurdle.
I think any adult who’s spend the majority of their life in this country should automatically be granted citizenship. They’re more british than anything else. Criminal or not we’re the ones that have raised them and they are our problem when they fuck up