Tom Holland had to learn Irish for his role as an Irish monk in the film ‘Pilgrimage’
Tom Holland had to learn Irish for his role as an Irish monk in the film ‘Pilgrimage’ from ireland
Tom Holland had to learn Irish for his role as an Irish monk in the film ‘Pilgrimage’
Tom Holland had to learn Irish for his role as an Irish monk in the film ‘Pilgrimage’ from ireland
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Seems excessive. Would he not just have memorised his lines instead?
Jaysus he speaks more Irish then me. Is that Jon Bernthal?
I’d go gay for this lad.
Btw if anyone is looking for a good movie arracht is great and even better it’s in Irish
Spider-man/Punisher crossover confirmed
I wonder if Jon Bernthal speaks any eyerish
I had to learn Irish for my role in the leaving cert. It did equally poorly at the box office.
His pronunciation seems alright, but at the same time it doesn’t sound like he’s speaking Irish.
Is it not dubbed?
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Finally a use case for the language
Sort of weird Scottish hints to his accent. The rhythm is all weird, a little like when you’d have a computer speaking a sentence, like there is no extra weight or stress put on any part. It seems like he tried so hard to make sure he was doing a good job of the pronunciation of every word that it fucked up the flow of the sentences.
All that said, I take my hat off to him for taking on a part in a language he didn’t speak. Fair fucks to him.
He has nothing on Charlie Day
whats the “curse you” at the start “mallacht duit”? Is that just a reverse translation or a real curse used in irish?
You mean he had to memorise his lines
Is the film any use?
Hmm it is really cool to see this and fair play to him, but it is that bit off. I think the guttural ‘cchh’ sounds are too exaggerated or too separated from the words themselves.
Sounds like Arabic
Fair play to him. He’s clearly worked on his pronunciation, even if the accent isn’t quite right. Check out Hellboy 2: The Golden Army for an example of actors not caring how they sounded
He’ll be on the Late Late now getting asked what he thinks of Ireland
You don’t have to learn a language to speak the dialogue in a movie I would think
Did we really hire a English actor to play an Irish monk?
Not quite, he learned the script. Big difference.
Is it an old movie? Or a new spider man one😂
They cast the wrong spiderman for satan’s alley
Many are pointing that it doesn’t sound right and that’s basically because he’s speaking it as a “learned” second language and missing much of the sounds and rythmn Irish has. It’s very annunciated and slow on top to be clearer for audience which adds to that issue. .
His pronunciation is basically the English sounds of Irish words. Like how English speaking folks says Caoimhe completely wrong as the sound doesn’t exist in English.
It’s great to see Irish getting love in cinema these days though. It does wonders for the language.
Saw somewhere it’s meant to be middle Irish lads, his pronunciation might not be perfect but it’s also not meant to sound like modern Irish
James frecheville was genuinely outstanding in his use of Irish.Genuinely thought he was Irish and fluent until I looked it up and it was the lad from animal kingdom(great Aussie film), he will also appear in upcoming peaky blinders season.
While Tom hollands doesn’t sound as good, still appreciate the effort of any actor to give it a whack.
Fair play
Bet he didn’t have a priest beating the shit out of him if he didn’t get it right
Sure the movie isn’t called Satan’s Alley by any chance, is it?
Poor basterd
Tom Holland has definitely watched Yu Ming is ainm dom
no chance of them casting an actual irish actor?
To me it feels like Tom got the pronunciation down and even the pronunciation of how one Irish word changes radically in a sentence based on meaning and tense, but I think he based the affectation and emphasis on the words in a way that seems Arabic or Welsh maybe? The way he’s speaking just seems like a more ancient dialect that seems very foreign, where as people in Ireland who witnessed regular fluent Irish through school or family have a more modern understanding the emphasis is placed in relativity to English sentences, maybe his version could be more similar to an ancient Irish setting.
Tom is so cute I love that man with all my heart
Where was this filmed? I was on a beach near Donegal a few years back and this looks like the exact spot
I always find it funny that i can understand the irish of people who can’t speak irish fluently with the stuttery pauses between words. I then i get some notions that my irish isn’t that bad till I hear someone who is actually fluent speak it and it’s back to realising i’ve forsaken my language and am too lazy to do anything about.
I suppose it has to do with people forcing english speech patterns on irish when it is ment to flow alot quicker and of course the use of a common limited vocabulary.
It is nice to see Jon Bernthal as something other than an angry American cop.
Remember he’s doing an old Irish accent, not a modern one so of course it sounds different to anything we’ve heard, historians can make inferences about ancient accents using the written language of the day based on how some of the words are written(some are bound to be written phonetically and are accents influence how something would be written phonetically)
He’s no Charlie Day but it sounds alright.
Jaysus, is he in everything?
Ill wager he learned the lines and that was it