42 Überlebende des Massakers von Nova Rave verklagten die israelischen Sicherheitskräfte wegen Fahrlässigkeit und behaupteten, dass die Tragödie weitgehend hätte abgewendet werden können

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  1. I see a lot of people are hung up on the “intelligence” aspect with whether or not Israel knew it was coming or not, but what about the fact that even if Israel knew about it, or didn’t know about it, the attack should never have gotten the point it did with Hamas raping and killing their way around southern Israel.

    Like, why did Israel put so much of the IDFs resources in the West Bank, vs on the border with Gaza, which as late as 2021-22 was launching rockets at Israel and proved that they were a far greater threat to Israeli security than the West Bank was. If a region was run by a group of people who openly declare they want to murder everybody, would it not be more wise to put more forces there?

  2. This isn’t about money.

    It’s about forcing disclosure in the discovery phase of the lawsuit.

    These plaintiffs — these families — need to know for themselves and Israel.

  3. 110% there was negligence on the military side and that not only includes the Intelligence side of the house. I watched all the videos and they were absolutely disgusting. Fuck HAMAS and anyone who supports them. But what was shocking was how they just rolled right over all of the IDF’s security fences and none of the soldier’s were ready. How was there no one in the guard towers? All they had were automatic weapon systems which were taken out by drones. **Combat readiness was at a Zero**. You would think that even on a holiday they would have picked up things due to what happened in the past. Combat readiness and discipline is a huge and very real thing for a military force. How were there not secondary and third levels of security and or alarm systems in case of failure and second and third level layers of comms etc? **Security in depth?** Apparently there was none which is beyond shocking. Source of my opinions: I’m a 2 x Iraq war vet

  4. The idea that Hamas just waltzed in through an unguarded border is not an accurate representation of Oct 7. Almost 400 IDF and police were killed on Oct 7 and most of them were not sleeping in their barracks. Oct 7 wasn’t just a security failure, it was a military failure. It took days for the army to take back the areas Hamas took over and the IDF killed dozens and possibly hundreds of Israeli civilians.

  5. If the IDF had installed a minefield at least 10 meters wide on the border of the Gaza Strip, Hamas would have needed hours to make safe passages through it and most of the casualties would have been avoided.
    Well, we shouldn’t forget that October 6th was the 50th anniversary of the Yom Kippur War, and on these days it would be worth doubling our vigilance.

  6. TBH everyone knew there were some murderous Hamas people, but thousands of them, including ordinary citizens joining, who were sociopathic rapists was shocking. Yes it was a massive failure that needs to be learned from , but so much hatred is hard to comprehend.

  7. I can’t image how horrific that was. They are there for a festival, and suddenly terrorists parasail in and just start raping and murdering people.

  8. Surely the wildly unpopular right wing PM wouldnt sacrifice his own citizens to whip the populous into a nationalistic frensy in order to try to cling to power. Surely not.

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