What does measure would actually look like? The UK doesn’t conventionally arm the police yet alone the rental cops that you’ll get in venues.
If the are actionable threats the government should provide the protection or the events should be scrapped.
Anything else would be nothing more than security theater.
What kind of measures can venues put in place to stop someone detonating a bomb in the lobby?
Using the Manchester arena bombing as their example is cute, given that the attacker was connected to UK backed militia groups in Libya.
>A consultation, launched in February 2021, found that seven in 10 of the 2,755 respondents agreed those responsible for publicly accessible locations should take appropriate and proportionate measures to protect the public from attacks. This included ensuring staff were trained to respond appropriately.
“appropriate and proportionate”
Given the number of terrorist attacks in the UK in recent years, proportionate would be… no real change.
Most non-stab/vehicle ones have been on public transport, and few and far between at that. And much historically has been outside places using car bombs, and that was mostly the IRA.
What is proportionate for a venue to do against terror attacks? Absolutely nothing, from a proportionate response perspective. Much like my proportionate response to 38.725c heat is to do absolutely nothing, because that was the record set on one single day in one part of the country.
On the one hand you have a bunch of donkeys, desperate that *something* MUST be done…
On the other, a populist government who knowing they can pass on the effort and any blame to the private sector, are more than happy to “deliver” this kind of idiocy.
No doubt we’ll have “terrorist safe” venues just like we’ve had covid safe workplaces.
If I was a member of ISIS, I’d be celebrating at this headline lol.
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What does measure would actually look like? The UK doesn’t conventionally arm the police yet alone the rental cops that you’ll get in venues.
If the are actionable threats the government should provide the protection or the events should be scrapped.
Anything else would be nothing more than security theater.
What kind of measures can venues put in place to stop someone detonating a bomb in the lobby?
Using the Manchester arena bombing as their example is cute, given that the attacker was connected to UK backed militia groups in Libya.
>A consultation, launched in February 2021, found that seven in 10 of the 2,755 respondents agreed those responsible for publicly accessible locations should take appropriate and proportionate measures to protect the public from attacks. This included ensuring staff were trained to respond appropriately.
“appropriate and proportionate”
Given the number of terrorist attacks in the UK in recent years, proportionate would be… no real change.
Most terrorist attacks are stabbings or vehicular, per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain#2020s
Most non-stab/vehicle ones have been on public transport, and few and far between at that. And much historically has been outside places using car bombs, and that was mostly the IRA.
What is proportionate for a venue to do against terror attacks? Absolutely nothing, from a proportionate response perspective. Much like my proportionate response to 38.725c heat is to do absolutely nothing, because that was the record set on one single day in one part of the country.
On the one hand you have a bunch of donkeys, desperate that *something* MUST be done…
On the other, a populist government who knowing they can pass on the effort and any blame to the private sector, are more than happy to “deliver” this kind of idiocy.
No doubt we’ll have “terrorist safe” venues just like we’ve had covid safe workplaces.
If I was a member of ISIS, I’d be celebrating at this headline lol.