This article is just about what one low level minister has said. It’s hardly news.
We can’t hold the rich and powerful accountable for the terrible things they do. Where will it end?
I’d sooner strip Jacob Rees-Mogg of his knighthood first. At least Blair actually made an attempt to do some good for the country.
I can’t believe he even got a knighthood in the first place.
Imo he might be abit of a cunt and committed war crimes but he was arguably the last prime minister we had that was actually good for the UK.
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I still have hope that he is tried for war crimes. If Putin is deposed and there is demand for him to be extradited to the Hague, Russians would have a good claim to say “Yes but you also have to send Blair and Bush”.
It’s amazing that he still gets a free reign to appear on TV, especially considering the last 2 years.
I feel like I’m going crazy. Yes he was a decent prime minister domestically but the whole war crimes shebang surely warrants prison let alone having his knighthood revoked
There’s many other people that should get theirs stripped first
Iraq clearly destroyed what would have been a very impressive legacy as Prime Minister. He was well respected internationally. He was unlucky really, we must support the US because they have supported us. We are allies. If America fucks up, we do too. That is the real world. We live in a world of hostile powers. It’s not a Disney movie.
Invading the middle east based on vibes seems to be a good reason
It will never happen. Liz Truss still got resignation honours. Boris and his friends never even paid a fine. Michelle Mone is sickeningly calling herself a victim and has never been brought to justice.
We’re just going to bomb the Yemenis and commit war crimes again,we killed many innocent civilians in Iraq “shuffle of this mortal coil you c**t” there and” just shoot there all Taliban” in Afghanistan.
It will be a cold day in hell before any justice for war crimes commited by western “coalitions” faces UN scrutiny or at the very most sanctions.
2003 was 20 years ago.
Ok, it’s another karma burn opportunity.
Best PM of my lifetime and it’s not close. Before you downvote, reply with your alternative pick.
Iraq obviously overshadowed everything else he did but there was a tonne of great stuff in there. I mean the GFA alone puts him in the upper echelons.
For the real ragebait though, I never doubted him intentions with Iraq either. Far removed and with the mists of history it’s easy to be black / white on it, but Hussein was a fucking horror show. He *was* starting to cozy up to Islamic terrorist groups (those who insist he was secular might want to consider that he had a Koran written in his own blood). He had many resources to offer them. With the WTC still smouldering, I absolutely get why there was motivation to get involved. The consequences, of course, where horrific, but I am still not convinced that there isn’t an alternative timeline where nothing was done and some chemical attacks occurred in London, and DC etc.
Today the chants and placards are easy to write… but this is all with the benefit of hindsight.
“yes he’s a war criminal but hes better than anything we’ve had since”
the state of our country
It’s hard to be a strong leader when you’re struggling for a majority and need to satisfy factions in your own party with opposing views. It’s a growing problem across the western world since 10-20 years ago.
If we’re stripping people of honours, please start will Lord Pig Fucker.
Blair has a remarkable number of achievements to his name during his time as PM.
Iraq was a massive foreign policy catastrophe, but his premiership shouldn’t be defined by that.
Iraq is also more nuanced than “the War Criminal who killed a million people”. People forget the state Iraq was in pre-invasion, and I think people would be hard-pressed to say what charges Blair would be convicted for at the Hague.
It’s a sad state of affairs when people are sticking up for a war criminal because of how poor leaders since have been.
He should be tried for war crimes. Instead he’s been raking in millions helping dictators, kleptocrats and other horrible people with their PR.
Easily the best prime minister we have had in the lifetime of most in the country, almost certainly too 3 of all time. To think where we would be but for the Blair years is terrifying. We are never going to have a positive vision of ourselves and our politics if we can’t even see the positives of the best living former prime minister.
“Sitting MP doesn’t like person from other party”
Fixed the headline.
Frankly I think all people who are decent and good and have a knighthood should hand them back.
Let’s have knighthoods be a symbol of shame, if the governments insist on ‘honouring’ the worst of us.
Should strip Jeffrey Donaldson of his title whilst they’re at it.
Don’t care if I receive downvotes but Blair was the best PM, having led the clean up op of the Tory mess.
He implemented many policies that helped the disadvantaged which have been demolished or “restructured” by this shitshow of a government in the last 15 years, hence why the average person is struggling now.
People who think he is a war criminal clearly had no idea of the state of the UKs relationship with the US. Only 50 years prior to him becoming PM the UK started its mission to recover from WW2 that recovery process involved borrowing a significant amount of money from the US that helped built infrastructure of new services such as the NHS.
When any country borrows money from the states it’s never just money it ultimately means “if we call you for help you have no place to say No” Blair nor any PM that would of being in the position at the time would NOT of had a choice.
An Alba Party member said it? Most people in Scotland couldn’t even name an Alba party MSP or MP. Why is this being spun as somehow worth listening to?
It’s someone from the Alba party, an MP whose opinions on Tony Blair is not worth reporting on
Let’s strip him of the title and give it to Bojo’s father. That will show them!
The war on Iraq is a complete shambles from beginning to end.
These papers help shine a new light on dark days for Britain’s role as a world player and unquestioning follower of American might: false pretenses, lies, (dodgy dossier/ undue intervention and pressure on experts) cover up and death of David Kelly, subsequent carnage, birth of Isis, destruction of the country which remains unstable and dominated by Iran to this day etc. etc.
There’s no denying that the Blair administration carries a huge responsibility for this, Tony Blair primarily. There are reasons to admire the man ( outlined below) but clearly he has been exposed and I understand the calls to strip him of his titles. It’s not a single issue by the way, parliament and the British public were misled, and we feel the impact of the Iraq war to this day in relations with the global South.
Yet I can only applaud Britain for carrying out an extensive inquiry on the matter to its conclusion, and opening sensitive papers to public scrutiny. The US never did anything of the sort and President Obama’s administration, so often ‘sainted’, decreed that the previous Bush administration would be free of any such enquiry let alone prosecution.
Whilst that may go some way towards explaining the cosiness between the Obamas and the Bush family, lauded by some as a sign of healthy democracy, I can only draw the conclusion that Britain is a much sounder and healthier democracy than the US.
Not only did I lose respect in US foreign affairs since that war and its aftermath, it only takes seeing US democracy through that prism, to expose its hypocrisy and cynicism.
Isn’t the Garter the pure gift of the monarch and outwith government control?
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This article is just about what one low level minister has said. It’s hardly news.
We can’t hold the rich and powerful accountable for the terrible things they do. Where will it end?
I’d sooner strip Jacob Rees-Mogg of his knighthood first. At least Blair actually made an attempt to do some good for the country.
I can’t believe he even got a knighthood in the first place.
Imo he might be abit of a cunt and committed war crimes but he was arguably the last prime minister we had that was actually good for the UK.
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I still have hope that he is tried for war crimes. If Putin is deposed and there is demand for him to be extradited to the Hague, Russians would have a good claim to say “Yes but you also have to send Blair and Bush”.
It’s amazing that he still gets a free reign to appear on TV, especially considering the last 2 years.
I feel like I’m going crazy. Yes he was a decent prime minister domestically but the whole war crimes shebang surely warrants prison let alone having his knighthood revoked
There’s many other people that should get theirs stripped first
Iraq clearly destroyed what would have been a very impressive legacy as Prime Minister. He was well respected internationally. He was unlucky really, we must support the US because they have supported us. We are allies. If America fucks up, we do too. That is the real world. We live in a world of hostile powers. It’s not a Disney movie.
Invading the middle east based on vibes seems to be a good reason
It will never happen. Liz Truss still got resignation honours. Boris and his friends never even paid a fine. Michelle Mone is sickeningly calling herself a victim and has never been brought to justice.
We’re just going to bomb the Yemenis and commit war crimes again,we killed many innocent civilians in Iraq “shuffle of this mortal coil you c**t” there and” just shoot there all Taliban” in Afghanistan.
It will be a cold day in hell before any justice for war crimes commited by western “coalitions” faces UN scrutiny or at the very most sanctions.
2003 was 20 years ago.
Ok, it’s another karma burn opportunity.
Best PM of my lifetime and it’s not close. Before you downvote, reply with your alternative pick.
Iraq obviously overshadowed everything else he did but there was a tonne of great stuff in there. I mean the GFA alone puts him in the upper echelons.
For the real ragebait though, I never doubted him intentions with Iraq either. Far removed and with the mists of history it’s easy to be black / white on it, but Hussein was a fucking horror show. He *was* starting to cozy up to Islamic terrorist groups (those who insist he was secular might want to consider that he had a Koran written in his own blood). He had many resources to offer them. With the WTC still smouldering, I absolutely get why there was motivation to get involved. The consequences, of course, where horrific, but I am still not convinced that there isn’t an alternative timeline where nothing was done and some chemical attacks occurred in London, and DC etc.
Today the chants and placards are easy to write… but this is all with the benefit of hindsight.
“yes he’s a war criminal but hes better than anything we’ve had since”
the state of our country
It’s hard to be a strong leader when you’re struggling for a majority and need to satisfy factions in your own party with opposing views. It’s a growing problem across the western world since 10-20 years ago.
If we’re stripping people of honours, please start will Lord Pig Fucker.
Blair has a remarkable number of achievements to his name during his time as PM.
Iraq was a massive foreign policy catastrophe, but his premiership shouldn’t be defined by that.
Iraq is also more nuanced than “the War Criminal who killed a million people”. People forget the state Iraq was in pre-invasion, and I think people would be hard-pressed to say what charges Blair would be convicted for at the Hague.
It’s a sad state of affairs when people are sticking up for a war criminal because of how poor leaders since have been.
He should be tried for war crimes. Instead he’s been raking in millions helping dictators, kleptocrats and other horrible people with their PR.
Easily the best prime minister we have had in the lifetime of most in the country, almost certainly too 3 of all time. To think where we would be but for the Blair years is terrifying. We are never going to have a positive vision of ourselves and our politics if we can’t even see the positives of the best living former prime minister.
“Sitting MP doesn’t like person from other party”
Fixed the headline.
Frankly I think all people who are decent and good and have a knighthood should hand them back.
Let’s have knighthoods be a symbol of shame, if the governments insist on ‘honouring’ the worst of us.
Should strip Jeffrey Donaldson of his title whilst they’re at it.
Don’t care if I receive downvotes but Blair was the best PM, having led the clean up op of the Tory mess.
He implemented many policies that helped the disadvantaged which have been demolished or “restructured” by this shitshow of a government in the last 15 years, hence why the average person is struggling now.
People who think he is a war criminal clearly had no idea of the state of the UKs relationship with the US. Only 50 years prior to him becoming PM the UK started its mission to recover from WW2 that recovery process involved borrowing a significant amount of money from the US that helped built infrastructure of new services such as the NHS.
When any country borrows money from the states it’s never just money it ultimately means “if we call you for help you have no place to say No” Blair nor any PM that would of being in the position at the time would NOT of had a choice.
An Alba Party member said it? Most people in Scotland couldn’t even name an Alba party MSP or MP. Why is this being spun as somehow worth listening to?
It’s someone from the Alba party, an MP whose opinions on Tony Blair is not worth reporting on
Let’s strip him of the title and give it to Bojo’s father. That will show them!
The war on Iraq is a complete shambles from beginning to end.
These papers help shine a new light on dark days for Britain’s role as a world player and unquestioning follower of American might: false pretenses, lies, (dodgy dossier/ undue intervention and pressure on experts) cover up and death of David Kelly, subsequent carnage, birth of Isis, destruction of the country which remains unstable and dominated by Iran to this day etc. etc.
There’s no denying that the Blair administration carries a huge responsibility for this, Tony Blair primarily. There are reasons to admire the man ( outlined below) but clearly he has been exposed and I understand the calls to strip him of his titles. It’s not a single issue by the way, parliament and the British public were misled, and we feel the impact of the Iraq war to this day in relations with the global South.
Yet I can only applaud Britain for carrying out an extensive inquiry on the matter to its conclusion, and opening sensitive papers to public scrutiny. The US never did anything of the sort and President Obama’s administration, so often ‘sainted’, decreed that the previous Bush administration would be free of any such enquiry let alone prosecution.
Whilst that may go some way towards explaining the cosiness between the Obamas and the Bush family, lauded by some as a sign of healthy democracy, I can only draw the conclusion that Britain is a much sounder and healthier democracy than the US.
Not only did I lose respect in US foreign affairs since that war and its aftermath, it only takes seeing US democracy through that prism, to expose its hypocrisy and cynicism.
Isn’t the Garter the pure gift of the monarch and outwith government control?