The government are loving this. They want as many delays and loud protests as possible to demonstrate how ‘broken’ the system is, as they present they privatised American backed replacement. Makes me sick.
Lol can you imagine is Labour doesn’t actually give them what they want?
I support the doctors in their strike. Despite my appointment tomorrow being cancelled.
We either pay them, or the US, Australia and Germany will.
The media are allowing the tories to get away with this. Anyone claiming the pay request is unaffordable needs to be reminded – on air – that doctors are an internationally recognised commodity. If we don’t pay them a market rate, other countries will. Put more simply, claiming we can’t afford to pay them properly means we can’t afford an NHS. Let’s get some politicians quoted saying that and see how it helps their election chances.
We are too essential to strike.
Except when it comes to treating us well, have decent opportunities of training without having to throw a conniption about it. To have a fair system of training where we aren’t expected to sacrifice the demons that are family and friendship in order to attain it. In the old days you could just entertain your partner through hot pool boy money and nice holidays but we can’t do that anymore so I guess I have to be a present and involved father and loving husband. Guess my kids aren’t going to have daddy issues.
To be paid fairly even by the calculus of the NHS’s non doctor practitioners.
Monday there’s no escalation despite 2/5 positions on the arrest team not being filled for a 700 bed hospital. Today it’s a deadly risk. A national crisis created by my greed. Monday it wasn’t and was perfectly safe.
We were seeing patients in hospital corridors. Not A&E corridor. Hospital. Like the spaces between wards. That’s safe apparently.
The issue is social care. Which is privatised. Where standards provided are shocking. We have patients that are waiting for 6 weeks and this isn’t a NHS problem. It’s a social problem. You can’t expect people to care for their families in many of the homes they live in. Or with children. Or with two jobs. Especially considering family often don’t live as close. Elderly people often can’t live in terraced houses (single floor living, dangerous steps, small living room that can’t hold a hospital bed and often new families not having space to take them). So we need more social care. But we don’t want to spend any money on this or invest in it.
Let’s be clear. These bed shortages are entirely down to social. If we discharged patients who needed to go somewhere for therapy, carers and social? We would have no queues in A&E. Per on call? Out of 730 beds? 360 beds were social or mental health awaiting placement. If you ignore surgical and ICU and maternity? This is 70 percent of medicine beds. Some of these are just waiting for family to fix the property… But around half have been waiting over a week to be placed in care.
Me being on strike just means that there’s no one to write “medically optimised for discharge, bowels and diet good”.
My only gripe with this is that according to the article, emergency C sections are being cancelled. That is just insane, don’t drag unborn babies into this.
The health service needs sorting out, and their workers be paid a living wage for the amount of long selfless hours they do.
Otherwise, it will be an American style “oh you’re poor? You don’t get healthcare” situation. And the only people who will be rich in that scenario are the tory c*nts and their mates.
Good! NHS staff have got 25%+ pay cuts over the last 10 years.
Maybe the members of the public bitching and complaining shouldn’t have voted Tory or actually got off their arses to vote.
I encourage ALL junior doctors to go and get jobs in other countries. Once only the rich cab afford medical cover in the UK, three idiots voting tory might learn their lesson
My appointments cancelled. Not arsed, support ghe junior doctors and the NHS
It’s a good job Labour aren’t in power. There would be economic turmoil, inflation would be through the roof and strikes every other day
I’d have more sympathy if I hadn’t been the victim of medical neglect that nearly killed me. They do need paying but cancelling appointments and leaving sick people in need doesn’t sit well with me.
Any sane person considers their health the most important thing. So why on earth does this government not pay our health professionals what they deserve. They cannot make us turn against our doctors and nurses.
This is really worrying as my wife developed a chronic illness after pregnancy. The NHS workers aren’t to blame.
I would happily pay more NI and tax contributions to ensure that our NHS and valuable staff that work in it are paid what they want and is needed.
I would also have a full investigation into the dodgy stuff that has been going on and reverse the things Boris Johnson and Cameron brought in that allowed more carving up of services by private companies.
Our country paid out billions in dubious PPE delivery contracts during Covid. This needs to be clawed back and paid into the NHS.
If we had the money to do that then we should be able to pay our NHS staff.
We need to revive and reform the NHS and put it back on it’s feet.
I don’t think I’m alone in that sentiment.
> 35 per cent pay rise.
Clowns, I’m sure the people that keep threatening to leave will do it for real this time.
> There are many different ways of using these figures to calculate an average hourly rate, and there is some uncertainty in the data, but in general it suggests a range of roughly £20-30 per hour.
This is what the government wants to happen. They will tell you they want the strikes to end and go back to normal pronto to mainstream media news companies which then pass onto the public.
But the reality is this is what they want to happen, making the nhs crumble at its knees, make it so bad that it becomes easier to PRIVATISE health care. These strikes dont affect the MP’s/Politicians because they all use private healthcare anyway.
The tories really have destroyed this country, haven’t they?
I think it’s easy to support the strikers on Reddit. We’re mostly young and healthy and as such it’s a minor inconvenience.
To older people in poorer health I imagine young doctors appearing to refuse to treat their stressful, painful and debilitating illnesses looks very different.
I can’t help but think this is playing into the Tories hands considering it just seems like they want to fuck the NHS. Wouldn’t suprise me if half of parliament have shares in private health care companies when the NHS goes tits up.
My nephew is a junior doctor. First in the family. We’re very proud. But he’s gone to Australia to scope it out.
From our last text he seems to be very happy there and would likely stay.
I’m happy for him. He work his ass off to learn and do what he wants to do.
But I’m also very sadden. I’ll have to get on a 18 hour plane to see each other our chats aren’t as spontaneous and immediate as it could.
We are loosing doctors because our government treats them like shit.
Pay them their fair worth.
You cringey clapped for them. Now pay for them.
Worth pointing out close to 50 billion of the 70 billion that the tories gave said has been put into the NHS is unaccounted for. The PPE contract to Michelle Mone is included in the 20 billion that has been accounted for.
Strikes are effecting people, but people in England are too stupid to demand the government to participate in negotiations and find a solution. Yes we know that the tori governments want the system to fail, but people of England, you can actually control the government if you stop being lazy cunts!
In hospital on a trolley. Mine is a planned admission as well. I haven’t a clue as to when I’ll end up on my ward in a proper Hospital bed but I’ll always support the NHS staff.
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The government are loving this. They want as many delays and loud protests as possible to demonstrate how ‘broken’ the system is, as they present they privatised American backed replacement. Makes me sick.
Lol can you imagine is Labour doesn’t actually give them what they want?
I support the doctors in their strike. Despite my appointment tomorrow being cancelled.
We either pay them, or the US, Australia and Germany will.
The media are allowing the tories to get away with this. Anyone claiming the pay request is unaffordable needs to be reminded – on air – that doctors are an internationally recognised commodity. If we don’t pay them a market rate, other countries will. Put more simply, claiming we can’t afford to pay them properly means we can’t afford an NHS. Let’s get some politicians quoted saying that and see how it helps their election chances.
We are too essential to strike.
Except when it comes to treating us well, have decent opportunities of training without having to throw a conniption about it. To have a fair system of training where we aren’t expected to sacrifice the demons that are family and friendship in order to attain it. In the old days you could just entertain your partner through hot pool boy money and nice holidays but we can’t do that anymore so I guess I have to be a present and involved father and loving husband. Guess my kids aren’t going to have daddy issues.
To be paid fairly even by the calculus of the NHS’s non doctor practitioners.
Monday there’s no escalation despite 2/5 positions on the arrest team not being filled for a 700 bed hospital. Today it’s a deadly risk. A national crisis created by my greed. Monday it wasn’t and was perfectly safe.
We were seeing patients in hospital corridors. Not A&E corridor. Hospital. Like the spaces between wards. That’s safe apparently.
The issue is social care. Which is privatised. Where standards provided are shocking. We have patients that are waiting for 6 weeks and this isn’t a NHS problem. It’s a social problem. You can’t expect people to care for their families in many of the homes they live in. Or with children. Or with two jobs. Especially considering family often don’t live as close. Elderly people often can’t live in terraced houses (single floor living, dangerous steps, small living room that can’t hold a hospital bed and often new families not having space to take them). So we need more social care. But we don’t want to spend any money on this or invest in it.
Let’s be clear. These bed shortages are entirely down to social. If we discharged patients who needed to go somewhere for therapy, carers and social? We would have no queues in A&E. Per on call? Out of 730 beds? 360 beds were social or mental health awaiting placement. If you ignore surgical and ICU and maternity? This is 70 percent of medicine beds. Some of these are just waiting for family to fix the property… But around half have been waiting over a week to be placed in care.
Me being on strike just means that there’s no one to write “medically optimised for discharge, bowels and diet good”.
My only gripe with this is that according to the article, emergency C sections are being cancelled. That is just insane, don’t drag unborn babies into this.
The health service needs sorting out, and their workers be paid a living wage for the amount of long selfless hours they do.
Otherwise, it will be an American style “oh you’re poor? You don’t get healthcare” situation. And the only people who will be rich in that scenario are the tory c*nts and their mates.
Good! NHS staff have got 25%+ pay cuts over the last 10 years.
Maybe the members of the public bitching and complaining shouldn’t have voted Tory or actually got off their arses to vote.
I encourage ALL junior doctors to go and get jobs in other countries. Once only the rich cab afford medical cover in the UK, three idiots voting tory might learn their lesson
My appointments cancelled. Not arsed, support ghe junior doctors and the NHS
It’s a good job Labour aren’t in power. There would be economic turmoil, inflation would be through the roof and strikes every other day
I’d have more sympathy if I hadn’t been the victim of medical neglect that nearly killed me. They do need paying but cancelling appointments and leaving sick people in need doesn’t sit well with me.
Any sane person considers their health the most important thing. So why on earth does this government not pay our health professionals what they deserve. They cannot make us turn against our doctors and nurses.
This is really worrying as my wife developed a chronic illness after pregnancy. The NHS workers aren’t to blame.
I would happily pay more NI and tax contributions to ensure that our NHS and valuable staff that work in it are paid what they want and is needed.
I would also have a full investigation into the dodgy stuff that has been going on and reverse the things Boris Johnson and Cameron brought in that allowed more carving up of services by private companies.
Our country paid out billions in dubious PPE delivery contracts during Covid. This needs to be clawed back and paid into the NHS.
If we had the money to do that then we should be able to pay our NHS staff.
We need to revive and reform the NHS and put it back on it’s feet.
I don’t think I’m alone in that sentiment.
> 35 per cent pay rise.
Clowns, I’m sure the people that keep threatening to leave will do it for real this time.
I see that the BMA still lying about the £14 per hour though.
https://fullfact.org/health/bma-junior-doctors-hourly-pay/
> There are many different ways of using these figures to calculate an average hourly rate, and there is some uncertainty in the data, but in general it suggests a range of roughly £20-30 per hour.
This is what the government wants to happen. They will tell you they want the strikes to end and go back to normal pronto to mainstream media news companies which then pass onto the public.
But the reality is this is what they want to happen, making the nhs crumble at its knees, make it so bad that it becomes easier to PRIVATISE health care. These strikes dont affect the MP’s/Politicians because they all use private healthcare anyway.
The tories really have destroyed this country, haven’t they?
I think it’s easy to support the strikers on Reddit. We’re mostly young and healthy and as such it’s a minor inconvenience.
To older people in poorer health I imagine young doctors appearing to refuse to treat their stressful, painful and debilitating illnesses looks very different.
I can’t help but think this is playing into the Tories hands considering it just seems like they want to fuck the NHS. Wouldn’t suprise me if half of parliament have shares in private health care companies when the NHS goes tits up.
My nephew is a junior doctor. First in the family. We’re very proud. But he’s gone to Australia to scope it out.
From our last text he seems to be very happy there and would likely stay.
I’m happy for him. He work his ass off to learn and do what he wants to do.
But I’m also very sadden. I’ll have to get on a 18 hour plane to see each other our chats aren’t as spontaneous and immediate as it could.
We are loosing doctors because our government treats them like shit.
Pay them their fair worth.
You cringey clapped for them. Now pay for them.
Worth pointing out close to 50 billion of the 70 billion that the tories gave said has been put into the NHS is unaccounted for. The PPE contract to Michelle Mone is included in the 20 billion that has been accounted for.
Strikes are effecting people, but people in England are too stupid to demand the government to participate in negotiations and find a solution. Yes we know that the tori governments want the system to fail, but people of England, you can actually control the government if you stop being lazy cunts!
In hospital on a trolley. Mine is a planned admission as well. I haven’t a clue as to when I’ll end up on my ward in a proper Hospital bed but I’ll always support the NHS staff.