Congo? Fucking hell that’s about as dangerous as Gaza right now.
On Tuesday, during a conference held in the Knesset to examine possibilities for postwar Gaza, Gamliel said: “At the end of the war Hamas rule will collapse. There are no municipal authorities; the civilian population will be entirely dependent on humanitarian aid. There will be no work, and 60% of Gaza’s agricultural land will become security buffer zones.”
If Gaza is effectively unlivable, then “Voluntary” isn’t really the word I’d use.
“voluntary”
Imagine if Russia said that about Ukrainians
Russians in talk with Kadyrov on Ukrainian children “voluntary migration ” plan.
WHICH CONGO?
There’s quite a difference
Yeah I’m sure they’re thrilled to move to the other side of the planet to the freaking Congo of all places.
Could they make this look a bit less like a certain something which was going on before and during WW2? We’re at the “nobody wants to take in these undesirables, maybe shove them somewhere in Africa” phase
“voluntary” if you believe
“Would you like to voluntarily move to Congo?”
“Eh… no I live here”
*cocking of a gun*
“How about now?”
Gazans belong in their homeland not in the Congo.
It is obviously voluntary (with a gun pointing at your head after they have shot your kids)
And Israel’s end game is what? Rebuild Palestine and welcome back Palestinians? Because there’s no way that’s happening.
Hey Israel? Yeah, the Brits tried this with Rwanda and let me tell you right now; It’s not going to work, you can’t make it work and the idea of this being thrown around by the nation that was almost placed in Uganda is not lost. Ridiculous.
It’s not an ethnic cleansing guys, pinky promise. We only destroyed 70% of the houses and 70% of their agricultural land.
What? Was Madagascar too on the nose?
I guess Madagascar is still impractical
How ironic. Israel has rediscovered the Madagascar Plan.
some of the darkest chapters in the history of my world involved the forced relocation of a small group of people to satisfy the demands of a large one. I’d hoped that we had learned from our mistakes, but it seems some of us haven’t. How many people does it take before it becomes wrong?
Jean Luc Picard
Given the fact that Palestinian refugees in Lebanon and Jordan do not generally have right of return, there’s zero chance anyone leaving Gaza would be allowed to come back. This is more ethnic cleansing than “refugee resettlement”, despite the whatever fancy language is used.
Likud needs to go. These talks are an affront to human rights and if Netenyahu tries to take these actions, the U.S. will have to respond forcefully. If nothing else because this will be a huge blow to U.S. moral authority in the region and abroad.
Even talk of a “voluntary” ethnic cleansing is way too far.
Madagascar must be a little sad. It used to be considered as a nice place to resettle folks.
Is it really voluntary when they got guns pointed at them?
That was Israel’s plan all along. Why do you think they dropped more bombs than the U.S. did the entire time in Afghanistan?
Extremely Voluntary™
Nope, that’s it for me. That’s my line.
I can accept Israel’s desire to eliminate Hamas after 10/7. I can even, to a degree, accept the realities of urban warfare and the inevitable civilian casualties that come with it and the harsh realities of living next to a neighbor who launches terrorist attacks against you regularly.
But I am a *firm* believer of a two-state solution. I have always condemned the military-backed settlers in the West Bank, and any plan less than a robust nation-building effort after Israel’s campaign in Gaza turns the entire affair unforgivable in my eyes.
The *only* saving grace is that this is a yet-unapproved proposal within the Israeli government. I have no faith that Netanyahu government will do the right thing, but I can still hope that Israel will.
But I was told yesterday that these talks of resettlement of palestinians in other countries were done by rogue agents in the Israeli government and that to think about Israel doing anything clo to ethnic cleansing was a disgusting anti-semitic thought.
A senior official is denying this proposal saying that, “There are those in Israel who think that there is a willingness on the part of Gazans to emigrate voluntarily,” he says. “It’s a baseless illusion in my opinion. No country will absorb 2 million people, or 1 million, or 100,000, or 5,000. I don’t know where that idea came from.”
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Congo? Fucking hell that’s about as dangerous as Gaza right now.
On Tuesday, during a conference held in the Knesset to examine possibilities for postwar Gaza, Gamliel said: “At the end of the war Hamas rule will collapse. There are no municipal authorities; the civilian population will be entirely dependent on humanitarian aid. There will be no work, and 60% of Gaza’s agricultural land will become security buffer zones.”
If Gaza is effectively unlivable, then “Voluntary” isn’t really the word I’d use.
“voluntary”
Imagine if Russia said that about Ukrainians
Russians in talk with Kadyrov on Ukrainian children “voluntary migration ” plan.
WHICH CONGO?
There’s quite a difference
Yeah I’m sure they’re thrilled to move to the other side of the planet to the freaking Congo of all places.
Could they make this look a bit less like a certain something which was going on before and during WW2? We’re at the “nobody wants to take in these undesirables, maybe shove them somewhere in Africa” phase
“voluntary” if you believe
“Would you like to voluntarily move to Congo?”
“Eh… no I live here”
*cocking of a gun*
“How about now?”
Gazans belong in their homeland not in the Congo.
It is obviously voluntary (with a gun pointing at your head after they have shot your kids)
And Israel’s end game is what? Rebuild Palestine and welcome back Palestinians? Because there’s no way that’s happening.
Hey Israel? Yeah, the Brits tried this with Rwanda and let me tell you right now; It’s not going to work, you can’t make it work and the idea of this being thrown around by the nation that was almost placed in Uganda is not lost. Ridiculous.
It’s not an ethnic cleansing guys, pinky promise. We only destroyed 70% of the houses and 70% of their agricultural land.
What? Was Madagascar too on the nose?
I guess Madagascar is still impractical
How ironic. Israel has rediscovered the Madagascar Plan.
some of the darkest chapters in the history of my world involved the forced relocation of a small group of people to satisfy the demands of a large one. I’d hoped that we had learned from our mistakes, but it seems some of us haven’t. How many people does it take before it becomes wrong?
Jean Luc Picard
Given the fact that Palestinian refugees in Lebanon and Jordan do not generally have right of return, there’s zero chance anyone leaving Gaza would be allowed to come back. This is more ethnic cleansing than “refugee resettlement”, despite the whatever fancy language is used.
“***Voluntary***” exactly like the [Nakba](https://www.un.org/unispal/about-the-nakba/#:~:text=The%20Nakba%2C%20which%20means%20%E2%80%9Ccatastrophe,ethnic%20and%20multi%2Dcultural%20society).
Big surprise Bibi plans to Annex Gaza. What makes this different from Putin and Ukraine though?
Holy shit, it’s like history just repeats itself, over and over again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan
It’s absolutely disgusting what Israel is doing.
If thats not ethnic cleansing, I dunno what is.
Likud needs to go. These talks are an affront to human rights and if Netenyahu tries to take these actions, the U.S. will have to respond forcefully. If nothing else because this will be a huge blow to U.S. moral authority in the region and abroad.
Even talk of a “voluntary” ethnic cleansing is way too far.
Madagascar must be a little sad. It used to be considered as a nice place to resettle folks.
Is it really voluntary when they got guns pointed at them?
That was Israel’s plan all along. Why do you think they dropped more bombs than the U.S. did the entire time in Afghanistan?
Extremely Voluntary™
Nope, that’s it for me. That’s my line.
I can accept Israel’s desire to eliminate Hamas after 10/7. I can even, to a degree, accept the realities of urban warfare and the inevitable civilian casualties that come with it and the harsh realities of living next to a neighbor who launches terrorist attacks against you regularly.
But I am a *firm* believer of a two-state solution. I have always condemned the military-backed settlers in the West Bank, and any plan less than a robust nation-building effort after Israel’s campaign in Gaza turns the entire affair unforgivable in my eyes.
The *only* saving grace is that this is a yet-unapproved proposal within the Israeli government. I have no faith that Netanyahu government will do the right thing, but I can still hope that Israel will.
But I was told yesterday that these talks of resettlement of palestinians in other countries were done by rogue agents in the Israeli government and that to think about Israel doing anything clo to ethnic cleansing was a disgusting anti-semitic thought.
A senior official is denying this proposal saying that, “There are those in Israel who think that there is a willingness on the part of Gazans to emigrate voluntarily,” he says. “It’s a baseless illusion in my opinion. No country will absorb 2 million people, or 1 million, or 100,000, or 5,000. I don’t know where that idea came from.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/denying-report-of-talks-with-congo-official-says-gazan-resettlement-an-illusion/
Considering Israel is at the ICC right now fighting against claims of ethnic cleansing this would be virtual suicide.