Lemme get this straight: the dude who helped hire mercs for Shell, buddied up to Erdogan, opposes minimum wage, wants to raise homeowners’ property tax to cut them for big businesses, and sees everything through the lens of one giant global market, thinks the UK should have sold its infrastructure to the Chinese Communist Party for a few extra bucks?
One stack, Vince, or two?
Take back control, am I right? This just proves that American “allies” are in reality their satellite states.
Big surprise 😀
Who’s surprised?
We knew this at the time, so not really news. Aside from that, why would you want a communist regime deep inside critical infrastructure? It was absolutely the correct decision. Fuck the CCP.
Good boy
The problem is that the crypto layer allows for end-to-end encryption as well as encryption between handset and towers, and also allows handsets to relay off each other to reach a 5G tower. The Intel agencies hate the encryption layer because it makes vacuuming too hard. The police liked the built in law enforcement layer because it made warrant-based interception easier to do, but hated the handset relay feature because it could make it difficult to identify the true user (and required expensive new equipment).
The truth is that 5G is secure by design, and neither the security agencies or the police were happy when they realised the implications. Then the anti-China thing began so that western manufactured equipment had to be used – just a coincidence I’m sure.
So, is the implication that they did it so that the UK would buy American? Did the UK buy American?
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Good, now ban Xiaomi and Oneplus.
Doesn’t make it wrong. Fuck China.
*”And if the US told you to jump from a cliff, would you do it too??”*
— My mom to the UK.
Let’s be fair here, they banned Huawei because the US paid them to. They allowed Huawei in the first place because they paid them to.
Everyone’s equal if they got money 😛
UK being an American protectorate, what a surprise
A truly independent country.
Yeah, that must be the Post-Brexit british Independence they’re always talking about.
🤣 loving the comments here and the lack of awareness.
For sure there was probably US pressure but Vince Cable was nowhere near government at the time. He left government in 2015. I like the man but seriously what insight does he have as a member of a minority party?
Not just UK, it’s very broadly applied across Europe.
Not wanting to have China in control of the 5G infrastructure of your country seems smart to me. It should have never been allowed in the first place.
Good measure, shit justification.
The general view I’ve seen on the Liberal Democrat sub is that Vince Cable views around China are awful and generally an embarrassment to the party.
Lol at everyone taking Vince Cables words at face value the man constantly simps for china.
The US probably asked due to security concerns and due to sanctions, not like Huawei was ever a serious contender for critical 5g infrastructure. It was all a song and dance to appease both Chinese and American interests
Good. Whether the US told us or not we should of done it anyway
This isn’t surprising. The security services of both the us and uk were worried about it and there was us pressure to ban them.
This was very public at the time.
This is a great example of a subtly misleading headline.
Vince Cable was a minister in the Cameron government from 2010-15.
His access to the details of this case is nil. He wasn’t a minister for 4 years leading up to the decision. He wasn’t a member of the governing party. Hell, for the relevant time period, he wasn’t even an MP.
‘Former minister’ makes it seem like he might have some priviliged knowledge, when in fact his claims on this have as much basis and backing as the any other OAP’s paranoid rantings.
If it was that simple, we would have banned them originally instead of ignoring US pleas. We didn’t.
People bring up against Huawei that it is state owned. Guess what, most telecommunication companies are largely owned by their own country. It’s just in shares, on the stock market. Also, US has the same surveillance and censorship problems, but not by the state, they have it privatized to facebook, twitter, iphone, etc.
Its something similar happening here in lithuania, US told lithuania to name “taiwan representative office” instead of usual around the world “taipei representative office”, and now we are at trade war with china over this.
Can you expect anything else from a vassal?
UK is US’s little bitch. No shit.
Except this isn’t true. UK didn’t ban Huawei despite many requests until after Covid and the China non reporting shennigans.
Not a bad reason tbh. If your neighbors tells you about a legitimate problem would you just leave it in your house because it’s your rich and bossy neighbor?
UK is US bitch lol
That’s just dumb lol. Especially hearing that from the US. Didn’t Snowden literally expose the CIA and everybody was shocked for a second and then forgot it? Many people don’t even know him nowadays.
The US is just mad that they’re not the only ones who spy on people
Only thing worst than politicians are former politicians.
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Lemme get this straight: the dude who helped hire mercs for Shell, buddied up to Erdogan, opposes minimum wage, wants to raise homeowners’ property tax to cut them for big businesses, and sees everything through the lens of one giant global market, thinks the UK should have sold its infrastructure to the Chinese Communist Party for a few extra bucks?
One stack, Vince, or two?
Take back control, am I right? This just proves that American “allies” are in reality their satellite states.
Big surprise 😀
Who’s surprised?
We knew this at the time, so not really news. Aside from that, why would you want a communist regime deep inside critical infrastructure? It was absolutely the correct decision. Fuck the CCP.
Good boy
The problem is that the crypto layer allows for end-to-end encryption as well as encryption between handset and towers, and also allows handsets to relay off each other to reach a 5G tower. The Intel agencies hate the encryption layer because it makes vacuuming too hard. The police liked the built in law enforcement layer because it made warrant-based interception easier to do, but hated the handset relay feature because it could make it difficult to identify the true user (and required expensive new equipment).
The truth is that 5G is secure by design, and neither the security agencies or the police were happy when they realised the implications. Then the anti-China thing began so that western manufactured equipment had to be used – just a coincidence I’m sure.
So, is the implication that they did it so that the UK would buy American? Did the UK buy American?
[deleted]
Good, now ban Xiaomi and Oneplus.
Doesn’t make it wrong. Fuck China.
*”And if the US told you to jump from a cliff, would you do it too??”*
— My mom to the UK.
Let’s be fair here, they banned Huawei because the US paid them to. They allowed Huawei in the first place because they paid them to.
Everyone’s equal if they got money 😛
UK being an American protectorate, what a surprise
A truly independent country.
Yeah, that must be the Post-Brexit british Independence they’re always talking about.
🤣 loving the comments here and the lack of awareness.
For sure there was probably US pressure but Vince Cable was nowhere near government at the time. He left government in 2015. I like the man but seriously what insight does he have as a member of a minority party?
Not just UK, it’s very broadly applied across Europe.
From same source [most European countries ](https://www.euractiv.com/section/digital/news/eu-countries-keep-different-approaches-to-huawei-on-5g-rollout/) limit or ban access of Huawei (and often ZTE) to 5G infrastructure due to security concerns.
Not wanting to have China in control of the 5G infrastructure of your country seems smart to me. It should have never been allowed in the first place.
Good measure, shit justification.
The general view I’ve seen on the Liberal Democrat sub is that Vince Cable views around China are awful and generally an embarrassment to the party.
Lol at everyone taking Vince Cables words at face value the man constantly simps for china.
The US probably asked due to security concerns and due to sanctions, not like Huawei was ever a serious contender for critical 5g infrastructure. It was all a song and dance to appease both Chinese and American interests
Good. Whether the US told us or not we should of done it anyway
This isn’t surprising. The security services of both the us and uk were worried about it and there was us pressure to ban them.
This was very public at the time.
This is a great example of a subtly misleading headline.
Vince Cable was a minister in the Cameron government from 2010-15.
His access to the details of this case is nil. He wasn’t a minister for 4 years leading up to the decision. He wasn’t a member of the governing party. Hell, for the relevant time period, he wasn’t even an MP.
‘Former minister’ makes it seem like he might have some priviliged knowledge, when in fact his claims on this have as much basis and backing as the any other OAP’s paranoid rantings.
If it was that simple, we would have banned them originally instead of ignoring US pleas. We didn’t.
People bring up against Huawei that it is state owned. Guess what, most telecommunication companies are largely owned by their own country. It’s just in shares, on the stock market. Also, US has the same surveillance and censorship problems, but not by the state, they have it privatized to facebook, twitter, iphone, etc.
Its something similar happening here in lithuania, US told lithuania to name “taiwan representative office” instead of usual around the world “taipei representative office”, and now we are at trade war with china over this.
Can you expect anything else from a vassal?
UK is US’s little bitch. No shit.
Except this isn’t true. UK didn’t ban Huawei despite many requests until after Covid and the China non reporting shennigans.
Not a bad reason tbh. If your neighbors tells you about a legitimate problem would you just leave it in your house because it’s your rich and bossy neighbor?
UK is US bitch lol
That’s just dumb lol. Especially hearing that from the US. Didn’t Snowden literally expose the CIA and everybody was shocked for a second and then forgot it? Many people don’t even know him nowadays.
The US is just mad that they’re not the only ones who spy on people
Only thing worst than politicians are former politicians.