Kind of amazing how big of an impact these cultural products can have. This story broke ages ago. Made a little traction in the news cycle and faded off. A gripping TV drama gets made in a prime time slot and the zeitgeist becomes enraged and demands action
These accusations persisted for 16 years from 1999 to 2015. That is an average of more than one person charged per week.
Alison Hall, from Liversedge in West Yorkshire, was fired from her job at Hightown Post Office on Christmas Eve in 2010 and convicted of false accounting and was sentenced to a community order. For her, seeing the ITV drama “brought back a few memories of how they treated us and it’s been awful, totally awful.”
Janet Skinner, from Bransholme in Hull, was sentenced to nine months in prison in 2007 over an alleged shortfall of nearly £60,000. “We’ll never get that time back and we’ll have to live with what’s happened and try and move on.”
Both the Post Office and its Implementation partner, knew that they did not properly test the new system. They knew there were problems. Yet blamed the small post offices.
Would love to see them prosecuted and imprissioned. Would send shocks through the IT industry.
Anyone who has worked with this implementation partner, will know that they are shoddy.
There will be no restitution. Nothing will happen. And in their hearts the Grenfell campaigners for justice know nothing will happen, there will be no justice.
Still cant get over the fact that the CEO was a priest.
Imagine believing and preaching about heaven and hell and then doing what she did. God dam.
They’re all vile. The restitution/compensation was and still is laughable even with the Gov final offer.
I also, (for anyone smarter than me) dont understand how solicitors/court case can cost the best part of, what? £30/£40mill?
Like they had £12mill left from £58mill. Insane.
I started reading up on some of the issues. One of them – named the Dalmellington Bug after the location it was discovered – caused a sub-postmaster to be accused of stealing £24,000:
> [This] entailed a user repeatedly hitting a key when the system froze as she was trying to acknowledge receipt of a consignment of £8,000 in cash. Unknown to her each time she struck the key she accepted responsibility for a further £8,000. The bug created a discrepancy of £24,000 for which she was held
Wonder if the execs were watching it? Managers in those sorts of companies see lying as part of their job and continued that into court actions. Which they really should have thought about, instead of getting palm greasing bonuses to continue working there to do it.
The new flagship of injustice. Pay these people right now. Don’t let anymore die before they get the compensation they are due. Hang your head in shame post office. And all the boses who allowed this, I hope your millions are cursed.
Did anyone else see the forensic investigators intro. He should be a chaser with that kind of introduction
It’s important that as many people as possible know about the central role that Paula Vennells played in this scandal.
The Tories won’t take her gong away. But the campaign to highlight that and put pressure on Vennells in any way possible needs to continue.
I wish all the reporting stated the name of Paula Vennells. She was very enthusiastic that the victims be persecuted as severely as possible.
It’s the biggest miscarriage of justice in our country’s history and no one has been jailed for it yet. Paula Vennells especially needs to answer for her inaction in all this. She might not have been in charge when issues first started arising but she did all she could to help keep this story quiet and to prevent people getting appropriate compensation. That alone should see her in front of a jury explaining why she, as a priest, thinks that is fair.
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Kind of amazing how big of an impact these cultural products can have. This story broke ages ago. Made a little traction in the news cycle and faded off. A gripping TV drama gets made in a prime time slot and the zeitgeist becomes enraged and demands action
The Post Office wrongly prosecuted 736 sub-postmasters for theft, false accounting and related charges because of technical faults in the Horizon IT system. [[The Conversation](https://theconversation.com/mr-bates-vs-the-post-office-depicts-one-of-the-uks-worst-miscarriages-of-justice-heres-why-so-many-victims-didnt-speak-out-220513)]
These accusations persisted for 16 years from 1999 to 2015. That is an average of more than one person charged per week.
Alison Hall, from Liversedge in West Yorkshire, was fired from her job at Hightown Post Office on Christmas Eve in 2010 and convicted of false accounting and was sentenced to a community order. For her, seeing the ITV drama “brought back a few memories of how they treated us and it’s been awful, totally awful.”
Janet Skinner, from Bransholme in Hull, was sentenced to nine months in prison in 2007 over an alleged shortfall of nearly £60,000. “We’ll never get that time back and we’ll have to live with what’s happened and try and move on.”
Harjinder Butoy, who ran a post office in Sutton-in-Ashfield in Nottinghamshire, served 18 months in prison before he was released and is still waiting for compensation. “A lot of people know what we’ve been through, but the [televised] drama means they can physically see what happened to us.” [[ITV](https://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2024-01-04/its-their-turn-victim-of-post-office-scandal-demands-prosecutions)]
Both the Post Office and its Implementation partner, knew that they did not properly test the new system. They knew there were problems. Yet blamed the small post offices.
Would love to see them prosecuted and imprissioned. Would send shocks through the IT industry.
Anyone who has worked with this implementation partner, will know that they are shoddy.
There will be no restitution. Nothing will happen. And in their hearts the Grenfell campaigners for justice know nothing will happen, there will be no justice.
Still cant get over the fact that the CEO was a priest.
Imagine believing and preaching about heaven and hell and then doing what she did. God dam.
They’re all vile. The restitution/compensation was and still is laughable even with the Gov final offer.
I also, (for anyone smarter than me) dont understand how solicitors/court case can cost the best part of, what? £30/£40mill?
Like they had £12mill left from £58mill. Insane.
I started reading up on some of the issues. One of them – named the Dalmellington Bug after the location it was discovered – caused a sub-postmaster to be accused of stealing £24,000:
> [This] entailed a user repeatedly hitting a key when the system froze as she was trying to acknowledge receipt of a consignment of £8,000 in cash. Unknown to her each time she struck the key she accepted responsibility for a further £8,000. The bug created a discrepancy of £24,000 for which she was held
https://clarotesting.wordpress.com/2020/05/27/the-post-office-horizon-it-scandal-part-1-errors-and-accuracy/
Wonder if the execs were watching it? Managers in those sorts of companies see lying as part of their job and continued that into court actions. Which they really should have thought about, instead of getting palm greasing bonuses to continue working there to do it.
The new flagship of injustice. Pay these people right now. Don’t let anymore die before they get the compensation they are due. Hang your head in shame post office. And all the boses who allowed this, I hope your millions are cursed.
Did anyone else see the forensic investigators intro. He should be a chaser with that kind of introduction
It’s important that as many people as possible know about the central role that Paula Vennells played in this scandal.
The Tories won’t take her gong away. But the campaign to highlight that and put pressure on Vennells in any way possible needs to continue.
I wish all the reporting stated the name of Paula Vennells. She was very enthusiastic that the victims be persecuted as severely as possible.
It’s the biggest miscarriage of justice in our country’s history and no one has been jailed for it yet. Paula Vennells especially needs to answer for her inaction in all this. She might not have been in charge when issues first started arising but she did all she could to help keep this story quiet and to prevent people getting appropriate compensation. That alone should see her in front of a jury explaining why she, as a priest, thinks that is fair.
https://www.private-eye.co.uk/special-reports/justice-lost-in-the-post
More to the point why aren’t there _already_ prosecutions?
WTF did it take a primetime TV show to get the police to do their jobs?