The article states that the delivery schedule has always depended on the fulfilment of several conditions, including the successful training of Ukrainian pilots and the availability of sufficient logistics and infrastructure for servicing the F-16s in Ukraine, as stated by the ministry without providing more detailed information.
by HarakenQQ
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The timeline always felt slightly optimistic so it’s not that surprising. Would make no sense to rush the pilots and mechanics if they’re not ready. The last thing Ukraine needs is pilots who can’t manage the aircrafts or F-16s sitting around waiting for maintenances.
It’s slower than we all would like but it’s the right call.
Modern western fighters are very hard to maintain compared to ex-soviet aircraft. Likewise, experience has shown that pilots trained extensively on ex-Soviet fighters struggle to transition to western ones. Ukraine has both problems.
Well, that sucks. At this rate it feels like Bir Tawil will get F-16s before Ukraine ever sees them.
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I hoped that the F-16s would be ready when the weather allows new offensive actions this year. Another 6 months seems to be to late to offer support for a Ukrainian spring offensive or to help fending off a Russian one.
But yes, it makes sense that a lot of time is needed to introduce such a complex weapon system to an army. In normal circumstances takes many years.
F16 training should have started the same time the western Allies announced MBTs to Ukraine.
We lost almost a year I don’t know why and here we are.
It’s not like this is going to change the course of war, I fully expect all this buzz and then Ukraine receive a dozen f16 that help in defensive roles and not much else, but it’s so annoying to see how much the allies drag their feet.
Give Ukraine long range stuff, IFVs, MBTs and mine cleaning equipment. Massive amounts of suicide drones. Give meaningful numbers of theses things.
Let’s give them a chance to win. Every day that passes more and more Ukrainian lives are lost.
Why announce?
Or maybe its just obfuscation.
Keep wondering Orc, keep wondering.
One step forwards, two steps back…
I don’t think F-16’s make that much of a difference. It is a morale boost, for sure.
The main issue is that Ukraine is running out of anti-air ammo. Soon all their stock of soviet era anti-air will be gone forever, so the west has to supply them enough replacement units and ammo.
NASAMS firing IRIS-T and SLAMRAAMs for example are far more important. As for offensive capability, F-16’s would have limited survivability in the front lines… drones and cruise missiles are far more effective. We are in the era of saturation unmanned aerial combat… air to air and air to ground from small to large size.
Ruzzia is getting ammo, rockets and all kind of shit from NK and Iran and Europe needs to meet special conditions. Just let them die(ukrainians) and be done with it
which countries are giving F16?
Evolution of lost in translation:
Q2 – half a year – six months
Not sure what to make of this anymore. The West isn’t doing remotely close to everything it can for Ukraine to win, but it is doing a lot to ensure the stalemate remains.
come onnnnnnnn
Denmark has been great, so it’s very frustrating to hear this from them. 😑
On the bright side, the pilots and maintenance crews will have more time to train…