Never understand why people post from the hospital on Facebook.
“We do not need young and otherwise healthy people coming in with their wives or girlfriends to mop their brows while updating their Facebook profile at the same time. It is only leading to a further spread of influenza and Covid.”
As an extremely irregular visitor to hospitals, I am always amazed by the amount of people seemingly just hanging around.
Especially around the A&E.
People go to the A&E over the stupidest things sometimes
Had an unvaccinated antivaxxer coworker get Covid recently called an ambulance for himself
If you have an elderly relative you can’t just abandon them at the door.
EDIT : This should have been made clear in the article and the consultant might even have said it but it wasn’t reported.
Your loved one could be there for 12+ hours. You’re hardly going to dump them there to suffer alone, especially if they’re likely to fall asleep / pass out.
There should be a €10 fee for visiting any dr. Or hospital. Somewhat like Germany, just per person.
Ridiculous comment. Organise, fund and run the A&E better. Most people in A&E are there to advocate for someone sick and in pain. Considering we have children and young girls dying while their parents were screaming for help and not getting it, I would not trust leaving someone I cared about sick there.
I’d imagine a better set up of triage at an entry point would help with this. At the moment A&E seems to be just a landing zone for everyone, all dependent on one Doc to appear to see you. Nuts. At the very least find something more appropriate for people in mental health crisis to go. Divide and conquer.
Last year it took me 14 phone calls to get a same day GP appointment. My own GP told me there was no availability for 3 days. Maybe this is a big reason people are going to A&E’s.
The most important line in the article for those who didn’t/wouldn’t read it.
“if you are a relatively able-bodied person in good health presenting with respiratory problems, please leave your mammies and girlfriends at home,” he said.”
I can see both sides of the argument. If hospitals were better staffed and resourced most families wouldn’t need to hang around. Then there are certain families that seem to enjoy bringing all 14 members of their extended family to ED when their loved one is sick creating an entirely undesirable situation for all involved. There are also plenty of patients in ED that don’t need to be there in fairness.
I find it a bit off that he seemingly singles men out as the sole perpetrators of this behaviour (leave your girlfriends and mammies at home). Possibly he is including the LBGTQ crowd in that, but that may be giving him more credit than is due.
Fuck off! Had to wait 15hrs at the weekend with my gf to be seen as was fainting and low blood pressure etc You want me to leave her on her own there with violent drunks and druggies? Yeah right.
Last time I was in A&E with my partner, there was quite a few drunks and addicts, seemingly wandering around the place, roaring and shouting unchallenged by the nursing staff (who I don’t blame BTW). From what I’ve seen, you’re lucky to have a single security guard there, so in the same scenario I’d be accompanying them again.
I don’t know about anyone else here but my favourite way to spend a random 12 hrs is sitting around A&E at night with an ill friend/relative while surrounded by sick people and staring at a wall freezing my ass off
Fuck that. No one presents to A&E for the craic. I’ll decide on whether or not I am staying with an “able bodied” person because all patients need advocates.
I’ve seen the shit that goes on in these places with patients ignored for hours.. not because staff are busy but due to the lack of urgency in accident and emergency.
Maybe if patients were seen in a timely manner and actually listened to rather than be treated dismissively then they wouldn’t need to be accompanied.
Was in Vincent’s A&E with my partner two nights ago. Triage said that despite the case being high priority, they didn’t have an emergency doctor who could help with it so we’d have to wait until a ward doctor became available, so we were there 7 hours. Can’t fault the staff – triage nurses were reassuring and professional, check in staff very helpful, and when we saw the doctor she was a godsend. However this comment does rub me the wrong way, because in the waiting area, very little attempt was made to separate people with infection symptoms from those with other symptoms. We were sat beside one woman who was coughing uncontrollably and another who literally said “the doctors think it might be flu but I have to wait and find out”. Don’t get me wrong, in an emergency setting, I don’t really expect someone to spend a lot of time isolating patients or arranging seating charts or making sure everyone has their mask on – but it just makes it feel a bit “preachy” to say people should leave their loved ones alone for hours to prevent infection, if you’re not making those efforts yourselves.
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Brilliant line in the article.
Never understand why people post from the hospital on Facebook.
“We do not need young and otherwise healthy people coming in with their wives or girlfriends to mop their brows while updating their Facebook profile at the same time. It is only leading to a further spread of influenza and Covid.”
As an extremely irregular visitor to hospitals, I am always amazed by the amount of people seemingly just hanging around.
Especially around the A&E.
People go to the A&E over the stupidest things sometimes
Had an unvaccinated antivaxxer coworker get Covid recently called an ambulance for himself
If you have an elderly relative you can’t just abandon them at the door.
EDIT : This should have been made clear in the article and the consultant might even have said it but it wasn’t reported.
Your loved one could be there for 12+ hours. You’re hardly going to dump them there to suffer alone, especially if they’re likely to fall asleep / pass out.
There should be a €10 fee for visiting any dr. Or hospital. Somewhat like Germany, just per person.
Ridiculous comment. Organise, fund and run the A&E better. Most people in A&E are there to advocate for someone sick and in pain. Considering we have children and young girls dying while their parents were screaming for help and not getting it, I would not trust leaving someone I cared about sick there.
I’d imagine a better set up of triage at an entry point would help with this. At the moment A&E seems to be just a landing zone for everyone, all dependent on one Doc to appear to see you. Nuts. At the very least find something more appropriate for people in mental health crisis to go. Divide and conquer.
Last year it took me 14 phone calls to get a same day GP appointment. My own GP told me there was no availability for 3 days. Maybe this is a big reason people are going to A&E’s.
The most important line in the article for those who didn’t/wouldn’t read it.
“if you are a relatively able-bodied person in good health presenting with respiratory problems, please leave your mammies and girlfriends at home,” he said.”
I can see both sides of the argument. If hospitals were better staffed and resourced most families wouldn’t need to hang around. Then there are certain families that seem to enjoy bringing all 14 members of their extended family to ED when their loved one is sick creating an entirely undesirable situation for all involved. There are also plenty of patients in ED that don’t need to be there in fairness.
I find it a bit off that he seemingly singles men out as the sole perpetrators of this behaviour (leave your girlfriends and mammies at home). Possibly he is including the LBGTQ crowd in that, but that may be giving him more credit than is due.
Fuck off! Had to wait 15hrs at the weekend with my gf to be seen as was fainting and low blood pressure etc You want me to leave her on her own there with violent drunks and druggies? Yeah right.
Last time I was in A&E with my partner, there was quite a few drunks and addicts, seemingly wandering around the place, roaring and shouting unchallenged by the nursing staff (who I don’t blame BTW). From what I’ve seen, you’re lucky to have a single security guard there, so in the same scenario I’d be accompanying them again.
I don’t know about anyone else here but my favourite way to spend a random 12 hrs is sitting around A&E at night with an ill friend/relative while surrounded by sick people and staring at a wall freezing my ass off
Fuck that. No one presents to A&E for the craic. I’ll decide on whether or not I am staying with an “able bodied” person because all patients need advocates.
I’ve seen the shit that goes on in these places with patients ignored for hours.. not because staff are busy but due to the lack of urgency in accident and emergency.
Maybe if patients were seen in a timely manner and actually listened to rather than be treated dismissively then they wouldn’t need to be accompanied.
Was in Vincent’s A&E with my partner two nights ago. Triage said that despite the case being high priority, they didn’t have an emergency doctor who could help with it so we’d have to wait until a ward doctor became available, so we were there 7 hours. Can’t fault the staff – triage nurses were reassuring and professional, check in staff very helpful, and when we saw the doctor she was a godsend. However this comment does rub me the wrong way, because in the waiting area, very little attempt was made to separate people with infection symptoms from those with other symptoms. We were sat beside one woman who was coughing uncontrollably and another who literally said “the doctors think it might be flu but I have to wait and find out”. Don’t get me wrong, in an emergency setting, I don’t really expect someone to spend a lot of time isolating patients or arranging seating charts or making sure everyone has their mask on – but it just makes it feel a bit “preachy” to say people should leave their loved ones alone for hours to prevent infection, if you’re not making those efforts yourselves.