It’s just a low hanging fruit claim for the tin foil hat band. No denying that these are rough times and isolating is zero Craic but it’s disgusting seeing them shouting this every chance they get.
The issue I have with the people pushing the claims is they’d started the narrative the very second restrictions were being discussed. They never had any intentions of waiting to see whether it was true or not. The entire discussion was starting with an end point and working backwards to justify their desire to ignore Covid.
Suicide in this country is a silent epidemic of it’s own, and more needs to be done to combat the situation. But weaponizing it in the way it was is sick and pathetic.
There’s also the antivax inventor of the mRNA vaccine technology claims too. They’ll say anything, there’s no line they won’t cross. Idiots.
From what I’ve read and heard quoted on radio, children aren’t suffering anxiety from lockdowns, missing school or training etc. either. But this keeps being repeated and is massively blown out of proportion or skewed by parent’s projection.
All the evidence says kids are anxious, but about the virus itself and the possibility of losing grandparents, high risk relations.
Can we sticky this for a while?
>The official annual stats are published about 20 months after any given
year’s end. Further to this around 15% of suicide deaths are registered
too late to be included in these official figures.
>
>“Unfortunately, it is necessary to wait three-four years to
get a close reflection of the number of suicide deaths in Ireland,” Dr
Corcoran said.
Absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence. We won’t know the full impact of the pandemic on Irish mental health until years after the pandemic is over.
Mostly business owners I’ve seen. Suddenly worried about mental health….of the customers….staff are grand and are needed for a shift today.
Rte had some lunatic on who bought a few filters claiming all his staff wanted to be back. I’d love to see an anonymous survey of that company.
Tell that to my therapist
Remember when gym nuts were claiming that closing the gyms would kill people?
We don’t log all deaths from suicide. In many cases it’s the families decision. Using the figure proves nothing, whichever way you look at it
All I can give is anecdotes, but my own suicidal thoughts resurfaced during 2020 after I came terrifyingly close to taking that plunge in 2011 and successfully kept the mere suggestion out of my head for almost ten years. I posted about this oublicly to my friends on social media and received a flood of DMs from others feeling similarly.
Whether or not it increased sucicides, it most certainly increased suicidal ideation, and that is terrifying. Even more terrifying that the mental health implications of being asked to live like hermits for almost two years are literally never talked about at a high level by either officials or the media.
Anecdotally I know 3 of my peers that took their own life in the first lockdown of 2020, all 3 men in their later 30s/early 40s. All 3 of whom I knew through music & gigs, I wonder when we do get out the other end of this how many more absent faces I’m going to miss on the dance floor.
It boils my piss that the anti-vax brigade are beating their drum with this stick
I hate this claim because even if it is true, any extra Covid would probably kill even more people – both directly and indirectly (doctors dying, patients with other diseases getting less treatment, caretakers dying and then their wards left no/insufficient/incorrect care, people commiting suicide from the pressure), along with the long term effects of Covid (permanent lung damage, a loss of taste, muscle weakness, etc.) leading to broken lives; which in turn could lead to depression and then possible suicide. So not only would more people be dying of Covid, but those who would have been save from suicide would have probably committed suicide anyway.
Is there evidence that suicide is a big problem in Ireland, pandemic or not?
Isnt that enough to do something about it regardless..
Something needs to change.
complete bullshit
Woah, it’s almost like, the news said that there would be something that would happen, and then that thing didn’t happen, this is such a strange turn of events for mainstream media.
Comcern about mental health is a social contagion.
Suicide rates tend to be negatively correlated with homicide rates. It’s possible that in times of high risk of death, suicide declines as people band together
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It’s just a low hanging fruit claim for the tin foil hat band. No denying that these are rough times and isolating is zero Craic but it’s disgusting seeing them shouting this every chance they get.
The issue I have with the people pushing the claims is they’d started the narrative the very second restrictions were being discussed. They never had any intentions of waiting to see whether it was true or not. The entire discussion was starting with an end point and working backwards to justify their desire to ignore Covid.
Suicide in this country is a silent epidemic of it’s own, and more needs to be done to combat the situation. But weaponizing it in the way it was is sick and pathetic.
There’s also the antivax inventor of the mRNA vaccine technology claims too. They’ll say anything, there’s no line they won’t cross. Idiots.
From what I’ve read and heard quoted on radio, children aren’t suffering anxiety from lockdowns, missing school or training etc. either. But this keeps being repeated and is massively blown out of proportion or skewed by parent’s projection.
All the evidence says kids are anxious, but about the virus itself and the possibility of losing grandparents, high risk relations.
Can we sticky this for a while?
>The official annual stats are published about 20 months after any given
year’s end. Further to this around 15% of suicide deaths are registered
too late to be included in these official figures.
>
>“Unfortunately, it is necessary to wait three-four years to
get a close reflection of the number of suicide deaths in Ireland,” Dr
Corcoran said.
Absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence. We won’t know the full impact of the pandemic on Irish mental health until years after the pandemic is over.
Mostly business owners I’ve seen. Suddenly worried about mental health….of the customers….staff are grand and are needed for a shift today.
Rte had some lunatic on who bought a few filters claiming all his staff wanted to be back. I’d love to see an anonymous survey of that company.
Tell that to my therapist
Remember when gym nuts were claiming that closing the gyms would kill people?
We don’t log all deaths from suicide. In many cases it’s the families decision. Using the figure proves nothing, whichever way you look at it
All I can give is anecdotes, but my own suicidal thoughts resurfaced during 2020 after I came terrifyingly close to taking that plunge in 2011 and successfully kept the mere suggestion out of my head for almost ten years. I posted about this oublicly to my friends on social media and received a flood of DMs from others feeling similarly.
Whether or not it increased sucicides, it most certainly increased suicidal ideation, and that is terrifying. Even more terrifying that the mental health implications of being asked to live like hermits for almost two years are literally never talked about at a high level by either officials or the media.
Anecdotally I know 3 of my peers that took their own life in the first lockdown of 2020, all 3 men in their later 30s/early 40s. All 3 of whom I knew through music & gigs, I wonder when we do get out the other end of this how many more absent faces I’m going to miss on the dance floor.
It boils my piss that the anti-vax brigade are beating their drum with this stick
I hate this claim because even if it is true, any extra Covid would probably kill even more people – both directly and indirectly (doctors dying, patients with other diseases getting less treatment, caretakers dying and then their wards left no/insufficient/incorrect care, people commiting suicide from the pressure), along with the long term effects of Covid (permanent lung damage, a loss of taste, muscle weakness, etc.) leading to broken lives; which in turn could lead to depression and then possible suicide. So not only would more people be dying of Covid, but those who would have been save from suicide would have probably committed suicide anyway.
Is there evidence that suicide is a big problem in Ireland, pandemic or not?
Isnt that enough to do something about it regardless..
Something needs to change.
complete bullshit
Woah, it’s almost like, the news said that there would be something that would happen, and then that thing didn’t happen, this is such a strange turn of events for mainstream media.
Comcern about mental health is a social contagion.
Suicide rates tend to be negatively correlated with homicide rates. It’s possible that in times of high risk of death, suicide declines as people band together