Also, will Clarence Thomas recuse himself because his wife was neck deep in Trump’s lies?
Deciding nobody is above the law is mundane, the monumental thing would be agreeing he never took an oath of office because the Constitution calls it a presidential oath.
This is good news for Biden anyway. Or presidents are immune, and Biden then can get rid of Trump without consequences. Or they are not immune, and Trump can not be chosen president again.
They will come up with an excuse then say it is a one off excuse like in Bush v Gore and cannot be used as an excuse from then on.
I think it would be funny to use their hypocrisy against them and have several Democratic leaning states place Obama on a ballot for a third term.
btw the excuse they will use is Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment.
It is the excuse they used to rule in favor of Bush. Saying that he was harmed under the 14th Amendment. Except in the case it was the voters who were harmed by not allowing the recounts to continue.
If they stick to their own precedent, they’ll say states are within their rights to set their own rulings.
But it’s anyone’s guess if they’re going to stick with their own precedent.
Take him off every ballot!
Trump is fucking traitor to democracy.
Alito and Thomas will 100% say “trump is king” but the rest might not be so willing to toss their own power into the pyre.
I think they’ll leave him on the ballot; even trying to destroy the country can’t get you disqualified from future elections.
Yeah I’m not holding my breath. This “Supreme Court”manages to disappoint me time and time again.
SCOTUS is gonna say “Trump have been convicted of insurrection yet. So he stays.”
I’m calling it now.
having read about this a ton. I think they’re gonna say “It’s up to congress to determine the process for finding someone culpable of insurrection, every state can’t use a different process and definition.” it absolves them of any responsibility while giving Trump a free pass.
one thing that’s absolutely clear is that they’re not going to make an evaluation of whether or not trump committed an insurrection.
I also think it’s unlikely that a conservative court of originalists is going to define a standard like “must be criminally convicted in a federal court” which was very obviously not the intent when the 14th was written.
edit: the diversity of solid explanations in the replies make my point better than I ever could. the fact that we can debate “well colorado didn’t feel federal conviction of insurrection was necessary” and “other states say it is necessary” and others can say “well, there was an impeachment hearing and he wasn’t removed” and some courts are saying “well, it all applies, but he technically isn’t an officer” all points to an environment where there isn’t enough legal clarity on what the process is.
Why are we acting like the corrupt Supreme Court won’t rule in Trump’s favor? The fact that they owe Trump a favor seems to be more important that the Constitution.
The money that bought the US Supreme Court has and still is spending $$$$BILLIONS on the destruction of our democracy and replacing it with one party rule. It is the whole party even the corrupt republican members of all the courts nationwide. The big question, is dingy don far enough into his dementia that they can control him like THEY did raygoon. Yeah this is generational, these wealthy fucks do not care when they control America just that their family will. Why do you think they keep trying to destroy education, specifically State Universities. Children of working people should be trained to work and create wealth. NOT share in it. They’re dirty, stay away from them. That’s what Fred taught his family, maybe his sons won’t see it but some horrible KOCH family member will see the destruction of our democracy and an all on racist hate keeping us divided, while they get richer and will be extremely active in this destruction. WOKE, Project 2025 that is all conservative money and think tanks.
>In terms of potential impact, it’s a 10. It is excluding a former president from appearing on the ballot for engaging in insurrection.[. . .]But on the flip side, what are the odds of that actually happening? That’s more speculative. And so the number is probably less than 10.
This asshole thinks it’s only monumental if Colorado wins, allowing an insurrectionist wannabe dictator to run. How in the world did this get to 160 upvotes–nobody read the article?
If they side with democracy vs Trump who violated state law.
It will set prec…… what. Oh. Nevermind. Precedent is just a really flimsy word these days.
It’s just so amazing to me how much people want to make exceptions just for Donald Trump, a selfish, ugly, churlish man with the intellect of a psychotic stegosaurus and the morality of a trash-tier comic book supervillain.
And it’s amazing how conflicted they are when they have to hold him accountable to the same rules as everyone else.
And it will be amazing to see how the Supreme Court manages to interpret the constitution so that it applies to the president but it doesn’t apply to Donald Trump.
Because it will end it. I don’t trust this SCOTUS to do the obviously right thing
‘Monumental’ or ‘devastating.’
Every choice is a double edged sword. Any allowance they give Trump or Republicans is the same allowance they give Biden or Democrats. This exact behavior by Republicans have backfired in Republicans faces several times in the past. There is good reason why the Supreme Court is supposed to be non biased towards any political party or personal biases. Every single bias is a new double edged sword that both parties or any individual can exploit.
Without a shadow of doubt, they will rule in favor of Trump and he will call it a great triumph.
And we will get to hear about it every day until the decision is made. Speculations, opinions, them vs us… the media will milk this for all its worth. Call me when they issue a final decision.
With some of the most unqualified people for the job ever.
Sadly, I suspect we will see a 5-4 decision holding that Trump did not “engage in insurrection or rebellion.”
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Also, will Clarence Thomas recuse himself because his wife was neck deep in Trump’s lies?
Deciding nobody is above the law is mundane, the monumental thing would be agreeing he never took an oath of office because the Constitution calls it a presidential oath.
This is good news for Biden anyway. Or presidents are immune, and Biden then can get rid of Trump without consequences. Or they are not immune, and Trump can not be chosen president again.
They will come up with an excuse then say it is a one off excuse like in Bush v Gore and cannot be used as an excuse from then on.
I think it would be funny to use their hypocrisy against them and have several Democratic leaning states place Obama on a ballot for a third term.
btw the excuse they will use is Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment.
It is the excuse they used to rule in favor of Bush. Saying that he was harmed under the 14th Amendment. Except in the case it was the voters who were harmed by not allowing the recounts to continue.
If they stick to their own precedent, they’ll say states are within their rights to set their own rulings.
But it’s anyone’s guess if they’re going to stick with their own precedent.
Take him off every ballot!
Trump is fucking traitor to democracy.
Alito and Thomas will 100% say “trump is king” but the rest might not be so willing to toss their own power into the pyre.
I think they’ll leave him on the ballot; even trying to destroy the country can’t get you disqualified from future elections.
Yeah I’m not holding my breath. This “Supreme Court”manages to disappoint me time and time again.
SCOTUS is gonna say “Trump have been convicted of insurrection yet. So he stays.”
I’m calling it now.
having read about this a ton. I think they’re gonna say “It’s up to congress to determine the process for finding someone culpable of insurrection, every state can’t use a different process and definition.” it absolves them of any responsibility while giving Trump a free pass.
one thing that’s absolutely clear is that they’re not going to make an evaluation of whether or not trump committed an insurrection.
I also think it’s unlikely that a conservative court of originalists is going to define a standard like “must be criminally convicted in a federal court” which was very obviously not the intent when the 14th was written.
edit: the diversity of solid explanations in the replies make my point better than I ever could. the fact that we can debate “well colorado didn’t feel federal conviction of insurrection was necessary” and “other states say it is necessary” and others can say “well, there was an impeachment hearing and he wasn’t removed” and some courts are saying “well, it all applies, but he technically isn’t an officer” all points to an environment where there isn’t enough legal clarity on what the process is.
Why are we acting like the corrupt Supreme Court won’t rule in Trump’s favor? The fact that they owe Trump a favor seems to be more important that the Constitution.
The money that bought the US Supreme Court has and still is spending $$$$BILLIONS on the destruction of our democracy and replacing it with one party rule. It is the whole party even the corrupt republican members of all the courts nationwide. The big question, is dingy don far enough into his dementia that they can control him like THEY did raygoon. Yeah this is generational, these wealthy fucks do not care when they control America just that their family will. Why do you think they keep trying to destroy education, specifically State Universities. Children of working people should be trained to work and create wealth. NOT share in it. They’re dirty, stay away from them. That’s what Fred taught his family, maybe his sons won’t see it but some horrible KOCH family member will see the destruction of our democracy and an all on racist hate keeping us divided, while they get richer and will be extremely active in this destruction. WOKE, Project 2025 that is all conservative money and think tanks.
>In terms of potential impact, it’s a 10. It is excluding a former president from appearing on the ballot for engaging in insurrection.[. . .]But on the flip side, what are the odds of that actually happening? That’s more speculative. And so the number is probably less than 10.
This asshole thinks it’s only monumental if Colorado wins, allowing an insurrectionist wannabe dictator to run. How in the world did this get to 160 upvotes–nobody read the article?
If they side with democracy vs Trump who violated state law.
It will set prec…… what. Oh. Nevermind. Precedent is just a really flimsy word these days.
It’s just so amazing to me how much people want to make exceptions just for Donald Trump, a selfish, ugly, churlish man with the intellect of a psychotic stegosaurus and the morality of a trash-tier comic book supervillain.
And it’s amazing how conflicted they are when they have to hold him accountable to the same rules as everyone else.
And it will be amazing to see how the Supreme Court manages to interpret the constitution so that it applies to the president but it doesn’t apply to Donald Trump.
Because it will end it. I don’t trust this SCOTUS to do the obviously right thing
‘Monumental’ or ‘devastating.’
Every choice is a double edged sword. Any allowance they give Trump or Republicans is the same allowance they give Biden or Democrats. This exact behavior by Republicans have backfired in Republicans faces several times in the past. There is good reason why the Supreme Court is supposed to be non biased towards any political party or personal biases. Every single bias is a new double edged sword that both parties or any individual can exploit.
Without a shadow of doubt, they will rule in favor of Trump and he will call it a great triumph.
And we will get to hear about it every day until the decision is made. Speculations, opinions, them vs us… the media will milk this for all its worth. Call me when they issue a final decision.
With some of the most unqualified people for the job ever.
Sadly, I suspect we will see a 5-4 decision holding that Trump did not “engage in insurrection or rebellion.”