I think my expectation is no country is going to take truly meaningful actions to halt climate change altogether. We’ll most likely breach 2.0C permanently in the next few decades. The best we can do as individuals is to slow down the effects of climate change so that there are fewer catastrophic disasters in the future.
Until today it definitely felt like the warmest winter I can remember.
Thought the summer was a bit naff last year though tbh.
We are fucked.
My technical and scientific analysis.
Millions are going to die and for the most of us remaining, our living standards are going to drop dramatically.
War, mass-migration, famine will become the norm. People will move north and south from the equator.
Democracies will become Police states as governments try to manage the multitude of problems that climate change will cause.
As an aside, if you hate immigration now, you haven’t seen shit yet.
I think one of our contemporary issues is that most of the public do not have the education needed to fully grasp just how many elements of modern society will be affected by climate change over the next half a century and beyond. The imagination (intelligence) needed to fully appreciate the impact this will cause is just not there in enough people.
For example, logistics and supply chains. They’re going to be so much more difficult to manage, and pricing will just rise and rise. This will impact prices of everything else.
Materials will fail and need re-engineering. Farming. Housing. Diseases. Sewage. Insurance. These are just a few things off the top of my head. The current cost of living crisis will seem like something from a golden age.
So I repeat, we are fucked. Just give it a little time for everyone to catch up.
Edit: I think it’s going to take another 30-50 years for the realisation of quite how fucked we are to fully hit the majority of the population. Only once that happens will we be able to implement meaningful change. But of course by then it will be too late.
Hottest year on record, but he will be one of the coldest of the century.
We’re going to have to do something to mitigate rising temperatures beyond just reducing emissions. We literally have to spray some untested shit (sulphate) into the stratosphere to reflect the sun’s rays. We need bold action. Yesterday. Also to reduce emissions.
If we stopped emissions today the temperature would still rise 0.6 degrees. We need to mitigate the damage we’ve already done. Pronto!
Not a huge surprise really.
I feel sad, anxious, angry and depressed by this and everything else. Humanity as a whole is headed for a big fall one way or another.
The worst part is however it goes down it will be entirely preventable.
My children and any potential grandchildren will bear the full weight of this. (Sorry our not my) Whilst we grew fat, apathetic and stupid (fiddled) while the world burned.
If (large if) there is a future history of the world, people of the future will look back on the last 50 years of the 20th century and the first 30 of the 21st and see nothing but vanity, greed,deceit and hubris. We will be cursed and hated and deserve it.
Yep, that was really a cheerful comment.
Toodle pip
I live in Scotland. We had a whole week of summer. I had the electric heater on in June and for a few days in August too. I’m so looking forward to a warm summer.
Best we as a species will do, is build a series of arks, only available for the super rich. The rest of us will live the rest of our days, mad max style.
So the Earth is supposedly 4.5 billion years old, we have temperature data for only 150 of those 4.5 billion years, and we are now getting in a flap over that 150 year data set? We know full well the earth has cycles which will cause the climate on this plant to change, sometimes warmer, sometimes cooler, hence the ice age, when things were a lot cooler.
Not great, not terrible. The flip side from this is at least we know we have an increasingly severe global problem and the leaders of our Nations can come together and through strong leadership and sheer force of wil control just how late we might start our unmitigated fight back. Word on the street is the sooner, the better. One for all and all for one. Make it so.
Cut out all of the wests emissions tomorrow and climate change will still be coming. The countries who will be the primary drivers for it in the near future are ones who have little to lose from it. Mass immigration and water wars will hurt us a lot more than China and India so there’s no real incentive to slow down their own progress
Worse? Thank fuck for that. Bit of sun and heat sounds pure belter get in
Well, rapidly came of the opinion that the climate shift is not only real but having impacts so much quicker than some actually thought – having heard from Welsh and other friends that crops are failing due to the extra heat (or rain) and previously predictable weather is increasingly….not.
It’s so upsetting – having heard year on year and event after event that’s happened in the last ~30 years (from the oil spills at platforms or from ships, waste being dumped through to general pollution via industry) that the impact we’ve consecutively been warned about is beginning to very practically show it’s _not_ a lie……and yet so little is done.
It feels like if we had people with a conscience, determination and integrity in Government we’d not have these issues as they’d just impose limitations, restrictions and bring in laws that’d put a stop to it or at the very bloody least combat it actively.
The summer of 2022 was far hotter than summer 2023 in my area, but as a whole, I think the year was generally warmer. 2023 was also one of the wettest I’d seen – the rain has been near constant. The last time I took 2 weeks annual leave, in July, there were two days where it didn’t absolutely hammer down with rain. My displeasure was palpable.
What about wetness too? Because in south wales I swear it’s all felt like one big season, there’s barely been a change in weather in the last 1-2 years apart from the odd week or 2 of cold/heat wave.
It’s pretty much consistently been around 12-17° permanently, mostly cloudy with rain ranging from light to monsoon level with “storms” every 3-4 weeks where you get 40+ mph winds for a few days, roads that used to flood on the rare occasion now flood every week or 2 and everywhere is just boggy and wet constantly except for the 2 week heat wave we’ll have at some point before the actual “summer” where I can stop wearing wellies to walk my dog a few days.
Absolutely hate the climate here, just constant damp, muggy, grey cloudy and depressing.
I am going to make a crazy prediction guys…. 2025 is going to be even worse.
Yeah this whole gaffe was supposed to be underwater like 20 years ago. Not buying it unfortunately but sure you guys drive your Teslas and think you’re making a difference 👍
hasn’t every year for the last 20 or so just kept breaking the record so sadly its going to get worse and worse each year.
Problem I have is so many refuse to believe it cuz they look at their local weather instead of the whole globe. Like 2022, UK hit 40 degrees for the first time in my lifetime for several days and spent over a week above 30 even at night which was the absolute worse cuz we have no A/C…that summer for probably 4 months, other than at night it never dropped below 20…yet growing up even in my teens in the 90s, 21 degrees was considered a heatwave and that was rare. It hasn’t taken long for that big difference.
But the issue is those who don’t believe cuz they look at 2023 and be like it didn’t even get to 35 all summer and it rained so much…not at all connecting the dots, warmer temps, warmer ocean, more evaporation, more rain
How the fuck was 2023 the world’s hottest year? Our Summer in the UK was shite.
As for 2024 it’s too early to tell but so far it’s cold as balls.
My solar panels & air conditioning combo are starting to look like a very solid investment…. The last few years summers have been awful, and it drove me to get AC installed. I wouldnt be without it now and I bet many more people in the UK end up getting it fitted.
We show no desire to deal with the corporate world on this issue. Shit, we can’t even tax them properly. We’re all going to cook in the name of the almighty dollar.
It’s too late to stop it now, front row tickets to the end of civilisation!
While technically true, it sort of isnt. We only really have reliable-ish information since 1880. So we have around 144 years of data on the Earth’s temperatures. What you would call modern homo sapiens are thought to be around since around 190,000 B.C.E. The earth has been habitable for around three billion years. So we have a minuscule percentage of data. As a data analyst, I would personally say that is too small of a percentage to get any meaningful data from.
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Also, I know people will probably disagree and that is fine. We all have opinions.
It’s not about “countries not taking actions”. Since 1988, just 100 companies have been responsible for 71% of global greenhouse gas emissions.1 In addition to this, only 25 corporations and state-owned organisations were found to be responsible for over 50% of the global industrial emissions2 during the same time period.
You can separate your rubbish and buy a metal straw and reusable bags for your vegetables, it won’t matter as long as those companies don’t do anything.
“stop buying from them”, “boycott them” LOL humankind, apart from maybe 5%, is dumb af, me included. We are done.
Just wait until the oceans warm enough to kill of all the coral reef that supports the bottom of the marine food chain. And for all the insects to die that support most of the rest. Crops? Forget about it. Too much heat and too much rain will destroy more and more of it, and the fucked up seasons mess with plants enough as it is. But we’ve known about this for ages and I think humans as whole would rather let everything die than fundamentally change how we live. I just feel bad for my younger family members who won’t remember how things were before.
I’d be interested to see if the Hunga Tonga volcanic eruption pushed us over this record. Pretty amazing how much water vapour was blasted into the atmosphere.
I guess in the next 18months we should hopefully get some conclusive evidence.
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I think my expectation is no country is going to take truly meaningful actions to halt climate change altogether. We’ll most likely breach 2.0C permanently in the next few decades. The best we can do as individuals is to slow down the effects of climate change so that there are fewer catastrophic disasters in the future.
Until today it definitely felt like the warmest winter I can remember.
Thought the summer was a bit naff last year though tbh.
We are fucked.
My technical and scientific analysis.
Millions are going to die and for the most of us remaining, our living standards are going to drop dramatically.
War, mass-migration, famine will become the norm. People will move north and south from the equator.
Democracies will become Police states as governments try to manage the multitude of problems that climate change will cause.
As an aside, if you hate immigration now, you haven’t seen shit yet.
I think one of our contemporary issues is that most of the public do not have the education needed to fully grasp just how many elements of modern society will be affected by climate change over the next half a century and beyond. The imagination (intelligence) needed to fully appreciate the impact this will cause is just not there in enough people.
For example, logistics and supply chains. They’re going to be so much more difficult to manage, and pricing will just rise and rise. This will impact prices of everything else.
Materials will fail and need re-engineering. Farming. Housing. Diseases. Sewage. Insurance. These are just a few things off the top of my head. The current cost of living crisis will seem like something from a golden age.
So I repeat, we are fucked. Just give it a little time for everyone to catch up.
Edit: I think it’s going to take another 30-50 years for the realisation of quite how fucked we are to fully hit the majority of the population. Only once that happens will we be able to implement meaningful change. But of course by then it will be too late.
Hottest year on record, but he will be one of the coldest of the century.
We’re going to have to do something to mitigate rising temperatures beyond just reducing emissions. We literally have to spray some untested shit (sulphate) into the stratosphere to reflect the sun’s rays. We need bold action. Yesterday. Also to reduce emissions.
If we stopped emissions today the temperature would still rise 0.6 degrees. We need to mitigate the damage we’ve already done. Pronto!
Not a huge surprise really.
I feel sad, anxious, angry and depressed by this and everything else. Humanity as a whole is headed for a big fall one way or another.
The worst part is however it goes down it will be entirely preventable.
My children and any potential grandchildren will bear the full weight of this. (Sorry our not my) Whilst we grew fat, apathetic and stupid (fiddled) while the world burned.
If (large if) there is a future history of the world, people of the future will look back on the last 50 years of the 20th century and the first 30 of the 21st and see nothing but vanity, greed,deceit and hubris. We will be cursed and hated and deserve it.
Yep, that was really a cheerful comment.
Toodle pip
I live in Scotland. We had a whole week of summer. I had the electric heater on in June and for a few days in August too. I’m so looking forward to a warm summer.
Best we as a species will do, is build a series of arks, only available for the super rich. The rest of us will live the rest of our days, mad max style.
So the Earth is supposedly 4.5 billion years old, we have temperature data for only 150 of those 4.5 billion years, and we are now getting in a flap over that 150 year data set? We know full well the earth has cycles which will cause the climate on this plant to change, sometimes warmer, sometimes cooler, hence the ice age, when things were a lot cooler.
Not great, not terrible. The flip side from this is at least we know we have an increasingly severe global problem and the leaders of our Nations can come together and through strong leadership and sheer force of wil control just how late we might start our unmitigated fight back. Word on the street is the sooner, the better. One for all and all for one. Make it so.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-co2-emissions-per-country
Cut out all of the wests emissions tomorrow and climate change will still be coming. The countries who will be the primary drivers for it in the near future are ones who have little to lose from it. Mass immigration and water wars will hurt us a lot more than China and India so there’s no real incentive to slow down their own progress
Worse? Thank fuck for that. Bit of sun and heat sounds pure belter get in
Well, rapidly came of the opinion that the climate shift is not only real but having impacts so much quicker than some actually thought – having heard from Welsh and other friends that crops are failing due to the extra heat (or rain) and previously predictable weather is increasingly….not.
It’s so upsetting – having heard year on year and event after event that’s happened in the last ~30 years (from the oil spills at platforms or from ships, waste being dumped through to general pollution via industry) that the impact we’ve consecutively been warned about is beginning to very practically show it’s _not_ a lie……and yet so little is done.
It feels like if we had people with a conscience, determination and integrity in Government we’d not have these issues as they’d just impose limitations, restrictions and bring in laws that’d put a stop to it or at the very bloody least combat it actively.
The summer of 2022 was far hotter than summer 2023 in my area, but as a whole, I think the year was generally warmer. 2023 was also one of the wettest I’d seen – the rain has been near constant. The last time I took 2 weeks annual leave, in July, there were two days where it didn’t absolutely hammer down with rain. My displeasure was palpable.
What about wetness too? Because in south wales I swear it’s all felt like one big season, there’s barely been a change in weather in the last 1-2 years apart from the odd week or 2 of cold/heat wave.
It’s pretty much consistently been around 12-17° permanently, mostly cloudy with rain ranging from light to monsoon level with “storms” every 3-4 weeks where you get 40+ mph winds for a few days, roads that used to flood on the rare occasion now flood every week or 2 and everywhere is just boggy and wet constantly except for the 2 week heat wave we’ll have at some point before the actual “summer” where I can stop wearing wellies to walk my dog a few days.
Absolutely hate the climate here, just constant damp, muggy, grey cloudy and depressing.
I am going to make a crazy prediction guys…. 2025 is going to be even worse.
Yeah this whole gaffe was supposed to be underwater like 20 years ago. Not buying it unfortunately but sure you guys drive your Teslas and think you’re making a difference 👍
hasn’t every year for the last 20 or so just kept breaking the record so sadly its going to get worse and worse each year.
Problem I have is so many refuse to believe it cuz they look at their local weather instead of the whole globe. Like 2022, UK hit 40 degrees for the first time in my lifetime for several days and spent over a week above 30 even at night which was the absolute worse cuz we have no A/C…that summer for probably 4 months, other than at night it never dropped below 20…yet growing up even in my teens in the 90s, 21 degrees was considered a heatwave and that was rare. It hasn’t taken long for that big difference.
But the issue is those who don’t believe cuz they look at 2023 and be like it didn’t even get to 35 all summer and it rained so much…not at all connecting the dots, warmer temps, warmer ocean, more evaporation, more rain
How the fuck was 2023 the world’s hottest year? Our Summer in the UK was shite.
As for 2024 it’s too early to tell but so far it’s cold as balls.
My solar panels & air conditioning combo are starting to look like a very solid investment…. The last few years summers have been awful, and it drove me to get AC installed. I wouldnt be without it now and I bet many more people in the UK end up getting it fitted.
We show no desire to deal with the corporate world on this issue. Shit, we can’t even tax them properly. We’re all going to cook in the name of the almighty dollar.
It’s too late to stop it now, front row tickets to the end of civilisation!
https://medium.com/@samyoureyes/the-busy-workers-handbook-to-the-apocalypse-7790666afde7
While technically true, it sort of isnt. We only really have reliable-ish information since 1880. So we have around 144 years of data on the Earth’s temperatures. What you would call modern homo sapiens are thought to be around since around 190,000 B.C.E. The earth has been habitable for around three billion years. So we have a minuscule percentage of data. As a data analyst, I would personally say that is too small of a percentage to get any meaningful data from.
​
Also, I know people will probably disagree and that is fine. We all have opinions.
It’s not about “countries not taking actions”. Since 1988, just 100 companies have been responsible for 71% of global greenhouse gas emissions.1 In addition to this, only 25 corporations and state-owned organisations were found to be responsible for over 50% of the global industrial emissions2 during the same time period.
You can separate your rubbish and buy a metal straw and reusable bags for your vegetables, it won’t matter as long as those companies don’t do anything.
“stop buying from them”, “boycott them” LOL humankind, apart from maybe 5%, is dumb af, me included. We are done.
Just wait until the oceans warm enough to kill of all the coral reef that supports the bottom of the marine food chain. And for all the insects to die that support most of the rest. Crops? Forget about it. Too much heat and too much rain will destroy more and more of it, and the fucked up seasons mess with plants enough as it is. But we’ve known about this for ages and I think humans as whole would rather let everything die than fundamentally change how we live. I just feel bad for my younger family members who won’t remember how things were before.
I’d be interested to see if the Hunga Tonga volcanic eruption pushed us over this record. Pretty amazing how much water vapour was blasted into the atmosphere.
I guess in the next 18months we should hopefully get some conclusive evidence.