Meh, it’ll just reinvent itself with another ridiculous name.
Now let’s do the Republican Party
And the Moms for Liberty, whatever that may be. The other was just taken into custody for shoplifting. An amazing team…
As they start a new day, everyone deserves a delicious cup of coffee and some good news. This tale is perfect with your cup of coffee in the morning. 🙂
Good. So tired of the “let-them-be-so-we-can-see-them-in-public-unmasked” mentality. I liked it better when insurrectionists and racists felt the need to hide underground.
of course they do
every single one of these people are, at their core, cowards.
Proud Moms of Liberty Boyzs
They will reform with new leadership and a new name.
It will be the same shitty people with the same shitty beliefs.
Mainstream conservatives will again provide them with aid, comfort, and legitimacy until the next time their members do something awful.
>”People like what I have to say. They believe in it. They just don’t like the word Nazi, that’s all.”
Was a great bit of cultural critique.
I still don’t get how their de facto leader, Roger Stone, is still walking around free.
And that’s why the Dems Do. Not. Hesitate. To make sure people who violate the law are treated accordingly in their party!
Meanwhile, the Republican side of the equation is completely INFESTED with people who have quite reprehensible skeletons! I feel like a week doesn’t go by without another one charged with some sort of sexual crime or violence.
It’s also why people are so furious that Jordan and the rest are not being held in contempt for their blazon disregard of the subpoenas. It makes them feel like they can get away with bigger things. Hopefully this is the pendulum finally starting to swing back to equilibrium.
Are you sure they aren’t just, “standing back and standing by”?
Good. Pathetic child-minded idiots.
Let’s hope their kids aren’t vaccinated. So next insurrection we just roll their #Blessed polio asses into the river
Plowed Boys and Boat Keepers, burp…
The Proud Boys are the dumbest group of traitors I’ve seen in a while, next to the GOP
In much the same way light scatters roaches. The roaches are still there for when the lights are turned back off.
How odd that two groups whose entire basis for existence is the moral policing of others collapses after their founding members get caught in multiple sex scandals, rape accusations, and felony convictions
Now just their cult leader please
Fucking snowflakes.
If only they did this back 7-8 years ago when they were beating the shit out of people in NYC and waving samurai swords around instead of waiting for them to execute a planned insurrection.
The bad seed has been planted! Without some social Roundup diligently applied, we’ll be stuck with those assholes for a long long time. The KKK still smolders here & there.
>But there’s one big factor that cannot be overlooked that made 2023 very different from 2022: Proud Boys finally started going to prison for their role in January 6.
>
>In May 2023, Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio and four of his top lieutenants were found guilty of crimes committed during the Capitol insurrection. The verdicts were very serious. Four of them were found guilty of seditious conspiracy, while a fifth was convicted for assaulting a police officer. The shortest sentence was 10 years. Tarrio got 22 years, and will likely serve most, if not all of it.
That was the most prominent case, but there’s been a steady drip-drip of stories about Proud Boys receiving legal consequences. A sampling in recent months of Proud Boys facing justice in the court system: Charles Donohoe pled guilty and was sentenced to 40 months in December for his role in the insurrection. The same month, Anthony Sargent got 5 years after a guilty plea. Christopher Worrell was sentenced to 10 years in January, despite faking a drug overdose to escape his hearing.
>
>Data from The Armed Conflict Location & Event Data (ACLED) Project shows that while there was a gradual decline in Proud Boys activity in the first half of 2023, there was a preciptious drop-off in the mid-summer, dwindling to nearly nothing by the end of the year. This concides with the convictions and sentencing of Tarrio and other top Proud Boys. It’s highly unlikely that’s a coincidence. Instead, it suggests strongly that these high-profile punishments have successfully scared other Proud Boys into retreat.
To many people, this would seem an obvious outcome. Our prison system is supposed to work as deterrence, and certainly the prosecutors argued that’s why they sought lengthy sentences that would garner a lot of attention. But there’s also no end of pundits these days who are ready to warn that efforts to hold authoritarians to account will only backfire. They declare that the MAGA movement will only grow stronger if the legal system enforces the law as it is written.
>
>Granted, most of those arguments are made not so much about Proud Boys, but about Donald Trump. Every time a lawyer or a judge tries to impose legally mandated consequences on Trump for his multitude of crimes, a chorus rises up to yowl that he will only get stronger for it. And it is true that, within the Republican party, voters rallied to support Trump after he was indicted on 91 felony charges across four jurisdictions. This has caused some observers, even ostensible liberals, to treat any effort to hold Trump accountable as a mistake that will inevitably backfire. The latest iteration is the bed-wetters arguing that removing Trump from the ballot, which is required by the 14th amendment, will lead to his victory in November.
Trump himself, naturally, hypes this idea that the MAGA movement will only be emboldened by efforts to bring him to justice. After an appeals court hearing Tuesday, in which it seemed the judges are poised to shoot down his claims that he is “immune” to criminal prosecution, Trump returned to that well. “It’ll be bedlam in the country,” if the courts permit him to be tried for his attempted coup, he warned. Really, however, it was a threat: That the MAGA movement would be outraged and rise up, with implied violence, to prevent any consequences for previous violence.
>
>This rhetoric scares many. And no doubt that MAGA is a grievance-fueled movement that will seize on this as an outrage to rally around. But most Americans already dislike Trump and the MAGA movement. The main result of legal consequences is to only reinforce that bad opinion. That’s especially likely with swing voters, who will be reminded of what a bad guy Trump is, and won’t be stoked to stand by a criminal convicted by a jury of his peers.
>
>But legal consequences for Trump may not be a boost of confidence in the MAGA movement some believe. MAGA is a fascist movement that worships what they perceive as strength. To them, “strength” is evading consequences for bad actions. When their leaders are held to account, however, that is demoralizing and, crucially, demobilizing for the right.
One thing I keep thinking as I read this is, the outsized role of media and the internet is presenting people like the Proud boys, Libs of Tim Tok, Elon Musk, as “one side”, that makes it sound larger than it is. And if enough people will see stuff like this outside of our pockets like here on the sub. (Though I also am waiting to see what the Iowa and New Hampshire results are before further speculating)
Fascist boys is a more accurate name
Everyone who claims fighting fascists doesn’t work or makes them stronger is an idiot who just wants us to stop fighting fascists. Fighting fascism works. It always worked. It will continue to work. Let’s keep doing it. Maximize legal, financial and social consequences for fascists.
But I was assured by people who definitely aren’t sympathetic to their cause that punishing them would make it worse.
Per George Takei’s suggestion, I add #proudboys every time I post pictures of me and my husband. Gay boy pride!
“Stand back and __stand by__.”
Only the best…
Time to keep the pressure on these fascist conservatives. Time to take down Trump in the courts and end this madness.
I’m so sick of the “if we punish them they’ll just be stronger” nonsense. Authoritarians are *more* likely to be deterred by punishment than other groups- who tf does anyone think built this system after all?
There’s an all too common human trait of thinking that other people think like you do, and that’s just not the case.
I’d venture to guess that the people decrying punishment as a deterrent fancy themselves as anti-authoritarian, and believe that others have a similar derisive attitude towards punishment.
But given the lack of actual action coming from them I’ll assume they’re just cowards.
Just another reminder that two years ago, the Canadian Minister of Public Safety declared the Canadian branch of the Proud Boys a “terrorist entity”. This put them in the same legal category as Al-Qaeda, Daesh, ISIS, the Lord’s Resistance Army, etc.
Rather than having their personal assets frozen and living the rest of their lives on a no-fly list, a few days later a spokesboy announced that the Canadian PBs had been disbanded, and its financial assets surrendered to the federal government.
Since then, they’ve all been very diligent to keep their names out of the media and their social profiles invisible. I’m just sayin’, America.
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Meh, it’ll just reinvent itself with another ridiculous name.
Now let’s do the Republican Party
And the Moms for Liberty, whatever that may be. The other was just taken into custody for shoplifting. An amazing team…
As they start a new day, everyone deserves a delicious cup of coffee and some good news. This tale is perfect with your cup of coffee in the morning. 🙂
Good. So tired of the “let-them-be-so-we-can-see-them-in-public-unmasked” mentality. I liked it better when insurrectionists and racists felt the need to hide underground.
of course they do
every single one of these people are, at their core, cowards.
Proud Moms of Liberty Boyzs
They will reform with new leadership and a new name.
It will be the same shitty people with the same shitty beliefs.
Mainstream conservatives will again provide them with aid, comfort, and legitimacy until the next time their members do something awful.
>”People like what I have to say. They believe in it. They just don’t like the word Nazi, that’s all.”
Was a great bit of cultural critique.
I still don’t get how their de facto leader, Roger Stone, is still walking around free.
And that’s why the Dems Do. Not. Hesitate. To make sure people who violate the law are treated accordingly in their party!
Meanwhile, the Republican side of the equation is completely INFESTED with people who have quite reprehensible skeletons! I feel like a week doesn’t go by without another one charged with some sort of sexual crime or violence.
It’s also why people are so furious that Jordan and the rest are not being held in contempt for their blazon disregard of the subpoenas. It makes them feel like they can get away with bigger things. Hopefully this is the pendulum finally starting to swing back to equilibrium.
Are you sure they aren’t just, “standing back and standing by”?
Good. Pathetic child-minded idiots.
Let’s hope their kids aren’t vaccinated. So next insurrection we just roll their #Blessed polio asses into the river
Plowed Boys and Boat Keepers, burp…
The Proud Boys are the dumbest group of traitors I’ve seen in a while, next to the GOP
In much the same way light scatters roaches. The roaches are still there for when the lights are turned back off.
How odd that two groups whose entire basis for existence is the moral policing of others collapses after their founding members get caught in multiple sex scandals, rape accusations, and felony convictions
Now just their cult leader please
Fucking snowflakes.
If only they did this back 7-8 years ago when they were beating the shit out of people in NYC and waving samurai swords around instead of waiting for them to execute a planned insurrection.
The bad seed has been planted! Without some social Roundup diligently applied, we’ll be stuck with those assholes for a long long time. The KKK still smolders here & there.
>But there’s one big factor that cannot be overlooked that made 2023 very different from 2022: Proud Boys finally started going to prison for their role in January 6.
>
>In May 2023, Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio and four of his top lieutenants were found guilty of crimes committed during the Capitol insurrection. The verdicts were very serious. Four of them were found guilty of seditious conspiracy, while a fifth was convicted for assaulting a police officer. The shortest sentence was 10 years. Tarrio got 22 years, and will likely serve most, if not all of it.
That was the most prominent case, but there’s been a steady drip-drip of stories about Proud Boys receiving legal consequences. A sampling in recent months of Proud Boys facing justice in the court system: Charles Donohoe pled guilty and was sentenced to 40 months in December for his role in the insurrection. The same month, Anthony Sargent got 5 years after a guilty plea. Christopher Worrell was sentenced to 10 years in January, despite faking a drug overdose to escape his hearing.
>
>Data from The Armed Conflict Location & Event Data (ACLED) Project shows that while there was a gradual decline in Proud Boys activity in the first half of 2023, there was a preciptious drop-off in the mid-summer, dwindling to nearly nothing by the end of the year. This concides with the convictions and sentencing of Tarrio and other top Proud Boys. It’s highly unlikely that’s a coincidence. Instead, it suggests strongly that these high-profile punishments have successfully scared other Proud Boys into retreat.
To many people, this would seem an obvious outcome. Our prison system is supposed to work as deterrence, and certainly the prosecutors argued that’s why they sought lengthy sentences that would garner a lot of attention. But there’s also no end of pundits these days who are ready to warn that efforts to hold authoritarians to account will only backfire. They declare that the MAGA movement will only grow stronger if the legal system enforces the law as it is written.
>
>Granted, most of those arguments are made not so much about Proud Boys, but about Donald Trump. Every time a lawyer or a judge tries to impose legally mandated consequences on Trump for his multitude of crimes, a chorus rises up to yowl that he will only get stronger for it. And it is true that, within the Republican party, voters rallied to support Trump after he was indicted on 91 felony charges across four jurisdictions. This has caused some observers, even ostensible liberals, to treat any effort to hold Trump accountable as a mistake that will inevitably backfire. The latest iteration is the bed-wetters arguing that removing Trump from the ballot, which is required by the 14th amendment, will lead to his victory in November.
Trump himself, naturally, hypes this idea that the MAGA movement will only be emboldened by efforts to bring him to justice. After an appeals court hearing Tuesday, in which it seemed the judges are poised to shoot down his claims that he is “immune” to criminal prosecution, Trump returned to that well. “It’ll be bedlam in the country,” if the courts permit him to be tried for his attempted coup, he warned. Really, however, it was a threat: That the MAGA movement would be outraged and rise up, with implied violence, to prevent any consequences for previous violence.
>
>This rhetoric scares many. And no doubt that MAGA is a grievance-fueled movement that will seize on this as an outrage to rally around. But most Americans already dislike Trump and the MAGA movement. The main result of legal consequences is to only reinforce that bad opinion. That’s especially likely with swing voters, who will be reminded of what a bad guy Trump is, and won’t be stoked to stand by a criminal convicted by a jury of his peers.
>
>But legal consequences for Trump may not be a boost of confidence in the MAGA movement some believe. MAGA is a fascist movement that worships what they perceive as strength. To them, “strength” is evading consequences for bad actions. When their leaders are held to account, however, that is demoralizing and, crucially, demobilizing for the right.
One thing I keep thinking as I read this is, the outsized role of media and the internet is presenting people like the Proud boys, Libs of Tim Tok, Elon Musk, as “one side”, that makes it sound larger than it is. And if enough people will see stuff like this outside of our pockets like here on the sub. (Though I also am waiting to see what the Iowa and New Hampshire results are before further speculating)
Fascist boys is a more accurate name
Everyone who claims fighting fascists doesn’t work or makes them stronger is an idiot who just wants us to stop fighting fascists. Fighting fascism works. It always worked. It will continue to work. Let’s keep doing it. Maximize legal, financial and social consequences for fascists.
But I was assured by people who definitely aren’t sympathetic to their cause that punishing them would make it worse.
Per George Takei’s suggestion, I add #proudboys every time I post pictures of me and my husband. Gay boy pride!
“Stand back and __stand by__.”
Only the best…
Time to keep the pressure on these fascist conservatives. Time to take down Trump in the courts and end this madness.
I’m so sick of the “if we punish them they’ll just be stronger” nonsense. Authoritarians are *more* likely to be deterred by punishment than other groups- who tf does anyone think built this system after all?
There’s an all too common human trait of thinking that other people think like you do, and that’s just not the case.
I’d venture to guess that the people decrying punishment as a deterrent fancy themselves as anti-authoritarian, and believe that others have a similar derisive attitude towards punishment.
But given the lack of actual action coming from them I’ll assume they’re just cowards.
Just another reminder that two years ago, the Canadian Minister of Public Safety declared the Canadian branch of the Proud Boys a “terrorist entity”. This put them in the same legal category as Al-Qaeda, Daesh, ISIS, the Lord’s Resistance Army, etc.
Rather than having their personal assets frozen and living the rest of their lives on a no-fly list, a few days later a spokesboy announced that the Canadian PBs had been disbanded, and its financial assets surrendered to the federal government.
Since then, they’ve all been very diligent to keep their names out of the media and their social profiles invisible. I’m just sayin’, America.
No effect on their leader as of yet though.